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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

Considering the whole "High 6-A, at most 4-B" the OS Aliens have, how does that work in VS threads?

Is it a situation like with likely/possibly, or where to actually one-shot them you must have the higher end of the AP? The Wiki rules do not really clarify it.
 
BlastX said:
I just noticed that both times Kevin mutated after they become friends Ben uses all his OP aliens against his friends but always uses comparatively weaker ones against Kevin.

Like he used Way Big against Gwen, Atomix, Feedback and ******* Alien X against the Plumber Kids and the Rooters. Yet against Ultimate Kevin he used weaker aliens, used Ultimate Humungousaur, then used even weaker aliens until he used Ultimate Echo Echo...and then he used Kickin' Hawk and Swampfire when Kevin attacked him.
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Ben “Hold back” Tennyson
 
Omegabronic said:
Dude, he forced him back and make smacked him around... he did damage him and overpowered him at some points, the oposite also happening
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Don't know what fight you watched, cuz Vilgax literally left him on the ground with a single punch, and the only thing Kevin did was make him close his eyes.
Omegabronic said:
Yes it is? Ngl this looks like a massive oversight
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It is not, lol.
That was discussed and accepted, Kevin doesn't scale.
 
GeneralSol16 said:
Don't know what fight you watched, cuz Vilgax literally left him on the ground with a single punch
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Not really no, he endured several attacks and was always fine after them, there is no moment where Vilgax "beats" Kevin in a single blow... if you mean the last punch then... well, he is still pretty much fine after that one

Specially when Vilgax wanted to kill him... if he was so much stronger as the difference between tier 6 and tier 4? Yeah no, Kevin would have died in the first blow

GeneralSol16 said:
and the only thing Kevin did was make him close his eyes.
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Aka harming him with enough pain to make him close his eyes, if he was High 6-A, and Vilgax is 4-B, none of this attacks should have had any effect on him whatsoever... yet they did, harming or not is irrelevant, they were still powerful enough to complete stop Vilgax, it is clear that it wasn't one sided whatsoever, even if Vilgax is somewhat stronger... which is still debatable

GeneralSol16 said:
It is not, lol.
That was discussed and accepted, Kevin doesn't scale.
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Ok? Threads can be wrong? Conclusions can be changed? If all you have to deny the blatant scalling is "it was accepted" then... i'll just make a thread for it, should be easy enough
 
Wait so you guys are arguing Ben thinks Vilgax will hold back against him trillionfold in his dreams?! AHAHAHAHAHA

Speaking of, FA never landed a hit on Vilgax in reality, thus his justification should be changed to briefly oneshotting Malware.
 
Greenshifter said:
Heck the Vilgax HAD TO USE his steroid amp in his first fight with Ben already says enough
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Tbh, i think OS should have a separate key for season 1, iirc the non top tier aliens were able to harm Kevin and Vilgax later on, which even Diamond Head couldn't do anything to him
 
Omegabronic said:
Tbh, i think OS should have a separate key for season 1, iirc the non top tier aliens were able to harm Kevin and Vilgax later on, which even Diamond Head couldn't do anything to him
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Meh, XLR8 also didn’t get splattered by Vilgax so. Heck DH technically tanked Vilgax’s attack, albeit barely.
 
Also if people want direct scaling of these aliens to Vilgax, look no further than Gwen 10’s Cannonbolt vs OV Vilgax (= OS Vilgax) or Gwen 10’s Wildvine vs Ultimate Spidermonkey.
 
Omegabronic said:
Being honest... is he being a Chronian even contradictory to him being an alternate Ben? With Infinite universes... i assume there would be at least one where Ben is simply not human i mean he is part Anodyte anyway, so
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After watching RAT: Eon is an escaped transformation of Ben as a Chronian who seeks to do the same thing to RAT Ben since he’s dying.
 
He then switched to absorbing other Ben Tennysons as a way to sustain himself, assuming he wasn’t already doing that
 
Lort15 said:
wait- why don't we taking resistance feat for celestialsapiens from that, the celestialsapien wasn't affacted by Aggregor's elemental manipulation
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When are we upgrading Armodrillo for his drill shaking a Celestialsapien is the better question.
 
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