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[0-0-7] A Sword for Frodo vs. A Reckless Boxing Teenager (Aragorn vs Joe Yabuki)

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Not sure what joules are required to ko a bull, but stopping a car at 50mph is roughly between 10x below to somewhat above the feat Aragorn scales to.

Abilities wise, it's certainly interesting.

Both can power through or resist pain, but Joe outright ignores it up to a point while Aragorn willpowers through it. Point to Joe.

Aragorn can outright see into his opponents mind while Joe can sense danger. Point to Aragorn.

Aragorn has enhanced senses that allow constang awareness of surroundings and quick reactions such that catching him off guard is very difficult. Joe has instinctive reactions allowing him to react while unconscious or... instinctively... I'd say even (awareness is somewhat required for instinctive action).

Accelerated Development is bad for Aragorn. While it's not the best form of the skill, it's enough to let Joe go from being blitzed to blitzing in a fight. If Aragorn has that 10x AP gap, then he can still get a quick win, but if they're comparable? He needs to clutch hard. Albeit this seems to mostly be a skill and speed thing, though AP does also increase its improvement is far less impressive. The AD is also less effective in this fight for skill as its showings are all in boxing, not against a weapon user.

Aragorn and Joe both have Fear Manip, but both are largely irrelevant albeit in Aragorn's favour. Aragorn can resist and Aragorn's FM is unreliable. It can help, but its appearance is somewhat random.

On the other hand Aragorn can stun Joe in awe if he unveils his full majesty as a royal Dúnedain. Joe will be unable to meet his eyes in the fight and will be briefly stunned.

Perception Manip is an advantage to Joe, but it's countered by telepathy and Aragorn's enhanced senses. Still annoying, but manageable.

Damage boost comes from a counter technique. Deadly if landed, but that's questionable against a telepath with great awareness and reactions. Damage reduction is also reliant on gripping a opponent... not something that easy when the enemy has a (wooden) longsword.

Intelligence goes to Joe... because Aragorn hasn't been touched by intelligence revisions yet. Shame. But he has weapon mastery which lets me counter that.... kinda. It's just two different fields afterall. Aragorn is a one man army above all other skilled mortal warriors in the age. Literally goes untouched and unhurt in all 3 books. But I'll note that if disarmed, that all goes out the window. Aragorn is presumably a fine hand to hand combatant, but against Joe? Yeah...

Aragorn does have a sheath, something that will provide his wooden sword with a great enhancement in durability and reliability as a defense. Afterall, it gives a blade which has been in it invulnerability.

Some extra stuff too. Aragorn has the Palantiri but that is impractical as they need time to focus. Not handy mid duel. The Elessar will heal Aragorn alongside his low regen, but neither have shown combat applicability, albeit the former will save him from mortal wounds. He also just has a bunch of resistances and other stuff that ultimately don't matter in this fight.
 
So who wins? Well idk. I'd vote inconclusive as they both have distinct advantages and disadvantages. Albeit, my opinion can change depending on if we have a concrete AP figure for Joe.

Aragorn can theoretically just know every non-instinctive move Joe makes and has the reach advantage alongside his immense skill in weaponry that Joe is not used to fighting.

But Joe is a genius melee fighter who grows more skilled as the fight goes on and seemingly faster too (alongside somewhat stronger).

Now if the AP gap is 10x then I think Aragorn can tap Joe for the early win. He seems to be the type to get struck when facing new opponents and fighting forms before adapting. If the gap isn't there, Joe takes more wins just by enduring and developing.
 
If the gap isn't there, Joe takes more wins just by enduring and developing.
I'm heavily more inclined to believe that the gap isn't there because Rikiishi is one of the earliest opponents to Joe, and it is firmly believable throughout the story that the other opponents are both stronger and more technically capable, it's just unfortunate that the profile/verse lacks members capable of/interested in calcing more feats

Due to the lack of a proper ceiling for Joe, would you mind going for incon? I don't disagree to any point you brought up so far, instead I'd say probably the same.
If incon is not cool, we can keep trying to settle it though
 
I'm heavily more inclined to believe that the gap isn't there because Rikiishi is one of the earliest opponents to Joe, and it is firmly believable throughout the story that the other opponents are both stronger and more technically capable, it's just unfortunate that the profile/verse lacks members capable of/interested in calcing more feats

Due to the lack of a proper ceiling for Joe, would you mind going for incon? I don't disagree to any point you brought up so far, instead I'd say probably the same.
If incon is not cool, we can keep trying to settle it though
Pretty much. If the AP gap is in Aragorn's favour, I vote him. If it's in Joe's favour or close enough, I'd vote him.

Joe's AD needs some time to get going but is a good win con. Aragorn can stun briefly and permanently prevent Joe from focusing on him or meeting his eyes, but those are more good help than decisive win cons. But that adds ontop of Aragorn having the distinct range advantage and a type of fighting Joe doesn't go up against (that being weapons). Their other abilities either cancel out, aren't that usable, or are too random in one of Aragorn's cases (though blinding and terrifying Joe does give points, albeit random points).

So incon just due to the AP ambiguity.
 
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Will be following you on that one. Any side winning would make me happy but incon makes me even happier!
 
Doesn't Aragorn actually have a 2x AP advantage or am I wrong? I did see someone mention on another Joe match that Cross Counter is a 4x damage multiplier at minimum.

Oh? That's the cross counter? Well the scan on page says double to quadruple. Therefore Aragorn's high end is almost 2 to 4 times stronger, while his low end is either close or almost twice as weak...

I guess I stick with inconclusive.
 
Oh? That's the cross counter? Well the scan on page says double to quadruple. Therefore Aragorn's high end is almost 2 to 4 times stronger, while his low end is either close or almost twice as weak...

I guess I stick with inconclusive.
Lol hold on now. I was wrong. I got confused when looking at Joe's calculation and thought he was 200 KJ instead of 2 MJ. I deleted my previous comment but the point about the cross counter still stands.
 
Lol hold on now. I was wrong. I got confused when looking at Joe's calculation and thought he was 200 KJ instead of 2 MJ. I deleted my previous comment but the point about the cross counter still stands.
Yeah, it was a fair shout either way.

But since the AP advantage is either near 2x to 4x in Aragorn's favour (which combines with range and stunning) or say 1.5x to over 3x (can't be bothered to math. But this combines with the AD over time) in Joe's favour, I'll stick with incon.
 
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