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[Dog3352]

It Literally shows that not even light is escaping it and it even have an accretion disk also it is even sucking atmosphere around it as in this video.

This is just her own magic around the Eye of Maelstrom, there is no atmosphere being sucked.
Even the portals created by Narwhall are absorbing these "triangles" (Skirk/Narwhall magic).

We actually don't know how far away or near debris is to blackhole so this point is not that valid on it's own until we are sure it is in the range, also this applies.

The debris is literally running around the Eye of Maelstrom, that distance is more than enough to be pulled by a Black Hole.

And this has a limit to how the nature of a black hole can be ignored, the Eye of Maelstrom shows no property of a black hole, and when it theoretically it demonstrates, it is extremely far from having the suction force of a black hole.

is this different from previous point?
are your point 2 and point 3 talking about same blackhole? Because the blackhole in second point is "The Eye of Maelstrom from Shadow Phase".

Shadow Phase's Eye of Maelstrom is in its center of Shadow Phase, which does not behave at all like a black hole.

 

[Dog3352]

Not during this scene, we are really interested and see the beam of light also drawn towards it, and actually we can also see with the depiction structure in hoyoverse, you can compare the image of the black hole in the acheron and skirk characters, it really looks the same

In addition to this being a game mechanics, we are talking about the black hole that is being held by Skirk, as this scale only exists for it.

And I would even believe the particles being pulled by the Eye of Maelstrom is light, but I don't believe it when these same particles exist and are pulled by basically any magic that Narwhall also uses, even the portals, this is simply the magic of Skirk/Narwhall.

And it really doesn't matter if the game wants to make it a black hole when this "black hole" or does not behave like a black hole, or when your suction force is too weak to climb as a black hole climbs.

 

[OmniScalator]

This is just her own magic around the Eye of Maelstrom, there is no atmosphere being sucked.
Even the portals created by Narwhall are absorbing these "triangles" (Skirk/Narwhall magic).

portal is not absorbing bro, where do you play game? in portal it is just in corner and not moving, but in blackhole it is literally getting sucked, also triangles are different from complex polygonal structure.

The debris is literally running around the Eye of Maelstrom, that distance is more than enough to be pulled by a Black Hole.

debris is just floating in air it is not running around blackhole as you can see here. so this point is baseless.

And this has a limit to how the nature of a black hole can be ignored, the Eye of Maelstrom shows no property of a black hole, and when it theoretically it demonstrates, it is extremely far from having the suction force of a black hole.

huh? can't you see accretion disk? can't you see that light can not escape it? here.

Shadow Phase's Eye of Maelstrom is in its center of Shadow Phase, which does not behave at all like a black hole.

i assume you are talking about Dark shadow and why do you think it does not behave like blackhole?


Anyways it being blackhole or not is pointless as it would not affect calculation at all, i prepared another blog just to show how pointless these arguments are.

 

[Dog3352]

portal is not absorbing bro, where do you play game? in portal it is just in corner and not moving, but in blackhole it is literally getting sucked, also triangles are different from complex polygonal structure.

You can clearly see this being "absorbed" by the portal, both when the scene cuts to Neuvilette and when we are stopped to talking.

And the Narwhall portal also has these polygonal forms in it.

huh? can't you see accretion disk? can't you see that light can not escape it? here.

Do you mean what Eye of Maelstrom is "absorbing"? I'm just seeing him "absorbing" Skirk's magic himself, which makes these triangles appear.

I do not see it absorbing the light, which is what is needed to prove its suction force.

debris is just floating in air it is not running around blackhole as you can see here. so this point is baseless.

Even if we say the wreckage is too far away to be pulled, it does not behave like a black hole, like the fact that it is not sucking the atmosphere.

i assume you are talking about Dark shadow and why do you think it does not behave like blackhole?


Anyways it being blackhole or not is pointless as it would not affect calculation at all i prepared another blog just to show how pointless these arguments are.

No, all these points matter, as they are anti-feats for Eye of Maelstrom, let's not calculate something just by having a statement of apparently pulling the light, but when we see it, it shows more than one anti-feat to be at the level of a black hole.

 

[OmniScalator]

You can clearly see this being "absorbed" by the portal, both when the scene cuts to Neuvilette and when we are stopped talking.

But what does this prove?

I already answered this, this is just Skirk/Narwhall's own magic, it's no wonder that all of their attacks create these triangles around the place, and some even "absorb" (Eye of Maelstrom and the portals).

do you not know how accretion disk look? it is not triangular in shape, it looks like this.

And the Narwhall portal also has these polygonal forms in it.

so those polygons just are from their element i already said it, skirk uses her power to form force field and both narwhal and skirk use abyssal element so it is obvious.

Even if we say the wreckage is too far away to be pulled, it does not behave like a black hole, like the fact that it is not sucking the atmosphere.

atmosphere is transparent how do you know it is sucking or not.

No, all these points matter, as they are anti-feats for Eye of Maelstrom, let's not calculate something just by having a statement of apparently pulling the light, but when we see it, it shows more than one anti-feat to be at the level of a black hole.

what anti feat?

 

[Dog3352]

But what does this prove?

That the Eye of Maelstrom is "absorbing" the triangles around it has nothing to do with suction force, only the magic of Skirk/Narwhall that behaves this way.
What proves that there is no suction force absorbing the atmosphere/matter.

do you not know how accretion disk look? it is not triangular in shape, it looks like this.

What the hell are you talking about? I said that what is being absorbed is the "triangles" that the magic of Skirk/Narwhall appears.
I do not understand what the "light" you see that is not escaping.

so those polygons just are from their element i already said it, skirk uses her power to form force field and both narwhal

Once again, there is no force field, these polygons are simply part of Skirk's own magic, you have no evidence to prove that Skirk Eye of Maelstrom polygons are a force field, especially when polygons exist in the portals, Eye of Maelstrom, and appear on Shadow Phase attacks. These polygons are simply part of magic, and not "are a force field", it makes no sense to create a force field only at the edges of the portals, or create a force field attacking someone.

atmosphere is transparent how do you know it is sucking or not.

Have you ever seen the image of a Black Hole absorbing matter (the atmosphere)?

what anti feat?

I already quoted them.

These are exactly the anti-feats and lack of visual demonstrations that we are debating.

 

[OmniScalator]

What the hell are you talking about? I said that what is being absorbed is the "triangles" that the magic of Skirk/Narwhall appears.
I do not understand what the "light" you see that is not escaping.

That is the point light is not escaping that is why we can not see it.

Once again, there is no force field, these polygons are simply part of Skirk's own magic, you have no evidence to prove that Skirk Eye of Maelstrom polygons are a force field, especially when polygons exist in the portals, Eye of Maelstrom, and appear on Shadow Phase attacks. These polygons are simply part of magic, and not "are a force field, it makes no sense to create a power field only at the edges of the portals, or create a force field attacking someone.

you are not making any sense at all, obviously they are part of her elemental power, if you think this means that force field is fake then you are wrong because force field is also made up of her elemental power so obviously it too will have those polygons.

Have you ever seen the image of a Black Hole absorbing matter (the atmosphere)? Because you can see clearly.

do you know what atmosphere means?

I already quoted them.

i already proved why they are not applicable-

• The Eye of Maelstrom created by Skirk in the cutscene not demonstrating anything that is necessary to climb into a black hole;

It Literally shows that not even light is escaping it and it even have an accretion disk also it is even sucking atmosphere around it as in this video.

• The Eye of Maelstrom inside the Narwhall that has debris flying around it without being pulled in;

We actually don't know how far away or near debris is to blackhole so this point is not that valid on it's own until we are sure it is in the range, also this applies.

 

[Dog3352]

That is the point light is not escaping that is why we can not see it.

The important thing is to see him absorbing light. If so, I can point to anything with the appearance of a black hole and say that the light is there, we just don't see it.

you are not making any sense at all, obviously they are part of her elemental power, if you think this means that force field is fake then you are wrong because force field is also made up of her elemental power so obviously it too will have those polygons.

Still a headcanon argument, it has not yet been shown what Skirk's pure Elemental Energy is like, it makes no sense at all to put a force field on the edges of a portal, or create a force field with attacks, you definitely have no evidence that the polygons are a force field.
The polygons exist in certain Skirk/Narwhall magics, but we don't know exactly what these polygons are. This may well be just the elemental energy of Eye of Maelstrom itself around it.

do you know what atmosphere means?

I meant "atmosphere (or matter)", but either way, we don't see the Black Hole absorbing anything.

i already proved why they are not applicable-

And I have already refuted your points.

It Literally shows that not even light is escaping it and it even have an accretion disk also it is even sucking atmosphere around it as in this video

And this Eye of Maelstrom shows no gravitational force/suction force, and we do not see him sucking light at any time, there is no way to prove that the light trying to escape him.
This definitely does not show "the light not escaping from the black hole", in fact, nor is it known if the light remains existing after being sucked by a black hole.
If so, anyone can point to something that looks like a black hole and say, "light is trying to escape, we just don't see it."

We actually don't know how far away or near debris is to blackhole so this point is not that valid on it's own until we are sure it is in the range, also this applies.

And as I said earlier, there is a limit to how far fiction can disregard the nature of a Black Hole and be totally ignored by VBW, you want to ignore the lack of gravitational force/suction force, which is something needed to climb something to a black hole.

 

[Puppet43]

but its still negated by the fact skirk can hold and move the blackhole.

Dude, is simply Black Hole Manip, trust

 

[Reiner04]

Closing per OP request