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Dura Neg by definition litterally ignores Durability...
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Goku VS Spawn
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no i made a thread about it being nlf and it got accepted
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Goku has a lot Stamina and Statistics reduction passives, he's vastly much faster than spawn via his forms.
He will continue to steal his stamina over and over so much that Spawn will be like a crippled old man, he has a lot of stamina boost, at the same stat reducing abilities on top of that, and power boost abilities so Goku won't run out of stamina very soon..
Plus he has this
At the beginning of each round, the power of the enemy with the highest power is super down.
He can just lower stats and powers of spawn to absolute 0 tbh.
If that's not enough, Goku has this ability
So using this ability, Goku will just make sure Spawn can't amplify or recover himself permanently which is a huge factor In this fight.
It seems like Spawn has no counter against this. He is permanently crippled.
If that's not enough, Goku can also use subspace summon to summon time power users like Chronoa or Demigra
and seal spawn with their time powers, or info and history ee him to oblivion. And spawn can't do shit against this, since he is already crippled, and unable to move.
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I don't see exactly what spawn can do here. Dimension domain + Dura neg + summons + stat hax is a nasty combo.
Goku fra if it isn't already a stomp.
Goku fra if it isn't already a stomp.
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Yeah spawn has no real win con unless his AE is treated as a concept or something.
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He gains AE from The Mother, who is literally one with creation in Spawn’s universe.
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Could it be that The Mother is also called Gaia?
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I'm not even aware of this thread lol, so many things need to be clarified here
Idk if Dura Neg gonna work, @Robo432343 made a thread but i don't remember where it is, so let assume it won't work
I don't think Stats hax gonna be able to reduce 6D stats, DBH stats is 5D so its stats haxes
Stamina reduce is a wincon cause it can lead to stun or paralysis, disable your enemy is a wincon
This Goku has Hakai and Power Null and can summon more haxed characters
Idk if Dura Neg gonna work, @Robo432343 made a thread but i don't remember where it is, so let assume it won't work
I don't think Stats hax gonna be able to reduce 6D stats, DBH stats is 5D so its stats haxes
Stamina reduce is a wincon cause it can lead to stun or paralysis, disable your enemy is a wincon
This Goku has Hakai and Power Null and can summon more haxed characters
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Even if the other stat hax wouldn't work, he doesn't have resistance to dimensional domain,
That would turn his stamina to 1, disable, stun and paralyze him unable to use his powers and stuff, and plus Goku can just use his ability that makes Spawn unable to recover himself permanently, making him paralyzed forever. And Yeah, I forgot the game's goku Hakai lol, he can use it, which has deconstruction, soul erasure, history and info EE.. Spawn doesn't have even resistance to either History or Info EE. So he gets one shotted by this.
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If Goku just insta paralyzes Spawn and one taps him with hakai then this is definitely a stomp match.
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Is Spawn have any wincon?, cause Goku usually gonna Ki blast first, if it didn't work, he will use other abilities like Hakai, and of course ki blast will not work cause Spawn is 6D, so Spawn can still do something in the meantime
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If Spawn gets completely negated by Goku's passive abilities then him being 6-D doesn't matter.
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Well, his Dimensional Domain reduce Spawn stamina to bare minimum, which still allow Spawn to perform at least 1 action before it is completely drained, so Spawn can do something in the meantime, i think
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I'm not knowledgeable about Heroes, but according to the other people in the thread, it also stuns you and makes it where you can't use abilities.
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Tho, Goku's passive abilities is faster than Spawn could ever do, idk if equalizing speed also equalized the interval speed of abilities.
But he could just power up to his ultra instinct with kaioken times 100 (this might be overkill but yeah), and just blitzes Spawn with his insane abilities.
Generally, Spawn can't do anything here.
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Yea, Goku has this
Statistics Manipulation (He can passively and actively increase his stats, Goku can greatly enhance his capabilities with Kaioken, by up to one hundred times his normal level. Can increase his statistics and decrease his opponents' statistics, or even steal statistics which boost his own and weaken his enemy at the same time[79])
Status Effect Inducement & Stamina Reduction (Paralysis & Blindness; Can disable all of his opponents abilities, powers and actions by reducing their stamina to zero, making them unable to act (this is done via dimensional domain). Solar Flare is a technique that causes blindness with flashes of light)
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DD only reduce your stamina to 1, you will be stunned if stamina is zero, so Spawn still have one more action to perform before he is completely spent, of course if he get one hit from Goku his stamina too will be reduce to zero
Wait i missed the OP, Goku start in base, so he has no DD in this state, and it need considerable amount of time for him to reduce Spawn stamina to zero, so Spawn still has chances
Speed is equalized
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Goku can also just instantly transforms into UI so.. He knows that Spawn is stronger than anything he'd faced before.. So he will definitely transforms into his strongest form, which boosts his stats including speed significantly
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Would Spawn stand a better chance if the battle took place in Hell since he's constantly getting stamina back and stat amps passively while there? Or would Goku still just like null this?
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No, Goku has this
Which also just negate his stat boost and energy recovery permanently.
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Then yeah this is a stomp
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huh???
the only way goku can find out if spawn is stronger than anything he'd faced before is if he takes a hit
and if he does take a hit he just gets one shotted due to 6-D ap
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Well, battle take place in an environment that benefit one side iirc isn't allowed, of course we can debate for fun but the result will not count
Yeah Goku can null the environment ability, but he need to be aware of it first, and like Shar said, he could prevent Spawn from getting boosted
OP only allow Goku to access Super Saiyan forms, if i'm not wrong
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op made speed equalized now spawn just one shots
if you equal speed then spawn stomps and if you make speed not = then goku stomps
its not fair either way
if you equal speed then spawn stomps and if you make speed not = then goku stomps
its not fair either way
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What is Spawn first move?, cause i forgot that Spawn is infinitely stronger than Goku, he gonna use abilities when he sense Spawn power
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The OP didn't technically restricted his other forms, it just says he has access to his SSJ Forms, not "UI and Kaioken is restricted".
Either way tho, it's still a blitz, since he can still boost himself millions (likely higher) of times over, he sense that Spawn is powerful than anything he'd faced before, so he'll be careful, we know this version of Goku doesn't play around and he end the battle as quickly as possible.
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Goku can sense his opponent's energy so.
It doesn't really matter
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Goku can still transforms into his forms like SSG, SSB, SSBKK10 or 20, UI, and MUI.. And gain a massive speed advantage either way.
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Ngl, when I think about it.. Goku's dura neg might work, since it's not any durability negation that If you attack, you just ignore the conventional defense of your opponent, no, but rather Goku's durability negation just make his opponent reduce his defensive or guard to a bare minimum, and possibly damage him.
If you want to say that how will he damage a being with higher dimensional stats?
In fiction, we see time and time again, if someone drop or reduce his defensive capabilities, they can still be damage by still kind of mundane yet potent things (which ofc quite common).
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wouldn't reduce the dimensionality and won't be able to harm him bc of the stat gap.
lol are we for real? This isn't as common as you think it is and plot induced nonsense like that isn't gonna give Goku the wincon against a 6D being.
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DBH dura neg straight up ignore defense such as defensive stats and directly damage you. Though idk if standard allow this kind of dura neg to ignore higher D stats or not
He has Hakai and can summon more haxed characters to help
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And Spawn can't do anything either cuz of Goku's haxes, cuz of his dimensional domain and other insane hax.
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Yeah, it doesn't like target your organs or inside like a conventional dura neg, it literally straight up ignore and reduce your defensive capabilities to a bare minimum.
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