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yhwach haxstomps base thor
thor doesn't have any time to use 1-a bs
thor doesn't have any time to use 1-a bs
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Thor VS Yhwach
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What I was thinking was that since Ichigo was able to damage Yhwach, Thor would also be able to, and Thor has many other things that Ichigo doesn't have, even at the Base.
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Not quite. Thor resists basic magic, which has many hax along with the singular power he resists. Plus his god physiology makes him resist basically everything yhwach has.
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thor doesn't resist almighty's passive fate hax
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He resists it's usages.
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if you're talking about the acausality then no because of the acausality downgrade thread
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Not quite. It's usages are Probability Manipulation and Causality Manipulation.
Resistance to basic magic makes him resist those two so it's basically useless.
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resistance to probability manip and causality manip does not mean you can resist fate manip
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Probability and causality is different than fate manip tho
Agree
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The fate hax isn't passive since Yhwach needs to manually choose the futures. The passive ones are his precognition and powernull
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Also could Thor even see Yhwach? Yhwach has shinigami physiology which grants him layered invisibility
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Thor can even see abstract, non-existent beings, so I don't see why that would be a problem.
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Yes. Time Stop, for example, would be a problem.
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Allmighty of Yhwach not gonna work here,Basic magic in marvel grants Resistance to Plot manipulation, which is basically upscaled version of fate manipulation just like how fate manipulation is upscaled version of probability manipulation.
Though resisting 1-A probability manipulation makes you resistant to Lower potentcy Fate hax if i remember correctly.
Though resisting 1-A probability manipulation makes you resistant to Lower potentcy Fate hax if i remember correctly.
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Seeing abstract and non existent beings is different than layered invisibility
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Where it's said that resisting plot hax being the same as fate
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It would simply be supernatural luck or regular fate hax otherwise, as stated in the actual page.
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Note that this is 1-A plot hax btw. Extreme examples of plot hax is basically all the haxes combined in this wiki and Marvel writers sure loves to overpower their characters
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Well needs to be listed what it is in Thor's page
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Possible Uses
- Users may be able to determine how things will proceed by writing into the plot what is going to happen.
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It's listed as "possible". So not every plot hax user has this
Just like how acasual type 4 has resistance to fate manip being listed possible and not outright
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Basic magic page actually does explain how it works. And its outright busted
Plot Manipulation ("Magic is taking a thought and making it real. Taking a lie and making it the truth. Telling a story to the universe so utterly, cosmically perfect that for a single, shining moment... the world believes a man can fly "and those stories mix with the All-That-Was and creating new things, becoming so big and mad and brilliant that they go back in time and change other stories.Doctor Doom tells Loki that magic is essentially a higher narrative into the flow of events, imposing a narrative upon reality, imposing a story, a fiction into reality and willing it to become true. To be a creature of magic is to be a creature of story. Right after this, he states that he himself is a creature of magic, which makes him a creature of story. Magic is symbol and metaphor, and can be contained within metaphorical stories while in itself contain possible questions, such as "What if the future was unwritten, the present uncontained? What if we could go anywhere, do anything, be anyone? What if we were free? What couldn't we do, on the day all our cages open? What does the bridge to anywhere look like?". Stories turn moments into power--moments like this--and a teller of tales can harness that power, even in the moment The nature of magic being tightly connected to that of stories is also greatly explored here.One of the many mystical dimensions in the mystical universe, all of which are governed by magical energies, is the Astral Plane,which among other things is the realm of Narrative.
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If the narratives can alter the flow of events, then sure I can agree it has fate manip applications
But does Thor has answer to Yhwach's other haxes like "the Fear" and "The Death Dealing"?
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Pretty sure he resists fear hax and death hax because basic magic shenanigans.
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Yes God physiology and basic magic covers empathic manipulation,poison,death
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Could you show me that? Also Death Dealing is poison focused hax, not really death manip
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God Physiology (Marvel Comics)
In Marvel, it has been constantly shown that the divine pantheons of the Marvel universe, from Asgardians to Elder Gods, are an instrumental part of the cosmology and narrative. As such, the Gods of Marvel have all constantly been shown to share similar powers, despite the differing natures of...
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I see that thor has resists to poison but could he resist the resistance negation against poison? Cause Askin was able to effect Ichigo with poison despite ichigo himself is resistant to poisonGod Physiology (Marvel Comics)
In Marvel, it has been constantly shown that the divine pantheons of the Marvel universe, from Asgardians to Elder Gods, are an instrumental part of the cosmology and narrative. As such, the Gods of Marvel have all constantly been shown to share similar powers, despite the differing natures of...
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Magic (Marvel Comics)
There are many types of magic in the vast and complex history of Marvel Comics. However, while all the magic types are different to varying degrees, and some are definitely more well known than others, all share basic elements and powers (as well as basic potency that is likely...
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I don't see resistance negation in basic magic thoMagic (Marvel Comics)
There are many types of magic in the vast and complex history of Marvel Comics. However, while all the magic types are different to varying degrees, and some are definitely more well known than others, all share basic elements and powers (as well as basic potency that is likely...
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They arent exactly resistant they are outright immune due to lacking true physical bodies since they are beings of magic
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He resists dura neg or as stated above, straight up immune to res neg or dura neg.
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It's only listed as a resistance, not immunity or invulnerability
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Resistance negation is not dura neg wdym?
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"Uneffected by ---" You get the point
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It's still listed and counts as resistance. You have to update physiology page with crt to give it invulnerability or immunity
If you still doubt, you can ask a staff
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This is a very egregious argument. If he's straight up unaffected by dura neg and resistance negation, then he's immune to it.
Don't downplay it.
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You can put immunities in "resistance" pages on contexts or physiologies of verses.
Also they are out right immune to biology since they "lack" biology too poison isnt gonna work
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Dura neg isn't resistance negation?This is a very egregious argument. If he's straight up unaffected by dura neg and resistance negation, then he's immune to it.
Don't downplay it.
Also where's the part he resists resistance negation
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