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The Eminence in the Shadows Discussion Thread

Shadowslaya! said:
Everything in basically all the character profiles need to be updated.

Vol. 6 stuff needs to be added.


Anime feats, especially S2 EP 12 needs to be added. The feat is bare minimum small planetary to solar system level and MFTL+ attack speed, possibly combat and reaction a well.

Cid clearing the sky all over the world in Vol. 4 needs to be added as well. It's stated it blocked out the sun btw.

And the verse needs a cosmology upgrade, I have all the scans for the Realms stuff.

Cid in the Ln and anime should at bare minimum be small planetary in ap/dc. Ln versions speed is fodder sadly, but anime version carries.

That's all I can think of. Please upgrade my favorite verse correctly 😭🙏
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Anime feat is a multi-solar system level. Due to the fact that its lighting illuminated the entire solar system for a few seconds, several hundred times brighter than the sun, anime speed, the speed of movement is relativistic+, in a couple of seconds it got into Earth's orbit, the attack speed is mftl+
 
@Biggibs I can't reply to your comment as you asked inside the quote. Anyway, here's the feat. V4 chapter 3
Magic gathers at Shadow’s right hand. It’s so powerful the very air begins to quiver. The magic gradually gains in intensity, and before long, the entire capital is shaking. Tempestuous winds blow every whichway. Clouds whirl through the sky and spit out lightning. The magic practically seems to suck it all in as it continues collecting itself. The people at the center of that little world begin seeing flashes of bluish-purple light.
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Shadowslaya! said:
Anime feats, especially S2 EP 12 needs to be added. The feat is bare minimum small planetary to solar system level and MFTL+ attack speed, possibly combat and reaction a well.

Cid in the Ln and anime should at bare minimum be small planetary in ap/dc. Ln versions speed is fodder sadly, but anime version carries.
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Like Satoshi said, the LN and the anime are separate.
Biggibs said:
Anime feat is a multi-solar system level. Due to the fact that its lighting illuminated the entire solar system for a few seconds, several hundred times brighter than the sun, anime speed, the speed of movement is relativistic+, in a couple of seconds it got into Earth's orbit, the attack speed is mftl+
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Also, I'm going to tell you both that the feat is not even remotely close to Solar System level.

There's this reference that concerns the entire universe.

This feat is at best Small Planet level and if I remember correctly it was calculated at Moon level by I don't know who. Even if we separate the profiles I'm not going to agree with the use of this feat.
 
Biggibs said:
Anime feat is a multi-solar system level. Due to the fact that its lighting illuminated the entire solar system for a few seconds, several hundred times brighter than the sun, anime speed, the speed of movement is relativistic+, in a couple of seconds it got into Earth's orbit, the attack speed is mftl+
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Precisely.
 
Shadowslaya! said:
Why should I have to. I'm just suggesting update ideas the people already upgrading the threads could add. Why don't you?
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Because the only reason I follow this thread is because I read the manga (which I dropped), I don't give a damn about the anime and the LN, and I care even less to the profile here

You care, so why wouldn't you?
 
Biggibs said:
Anime feat is a multi-solar system level. Due to the fact that its lighting illuminated the entire solar system for a few seconds, several hundred times brighter than the sun, anime speed, the speed of movement is relativistic+, in a couple of seconds it got into Earth's orbit, the attack speed is mftl+
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Facts. The feat is definitely large star to solar.
 
Noneless21 said:
Because the only reason I follow this thread is because I read the manga (which I dropped), I don't give a damn about the anime and the LN, and I care even less to the profile here

You care, so why wouldn't you?
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Cool then we have no reason to be talking then.

Yeah I do care, but I'm not going to make a whole ass crt when the others who plan on making more upgrades can just add what I suggested.
 
Digital_Franz said:
Like Satoshi said, the LN and the anime are separate.

Also, I'm going to tell you both that the feat is not even remotely close to Solar System level.

There's this reference that concerns the entire universe.

This feat is at best Small Planet level and if I remember correctly it was calculated at Moon level by I don't know who. Even if we separate the profiles I'm not going to agree with the use of this feat.
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The feat definitely is not at best small planetary. It got calced at star level.

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Zefra3011 said:
From my knowledge they only mention that the original story is from Daisuke Aizawa (so they say the manga adapts the ln basically) but that's all, the author never mentioned he wrote it or even supervised it. I know he supervised the anime and every single story in the game (even wrote some himself).
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He had given short stories to the Manga. Official translation Vol 1 Book has it. I think it's fair to say he involved in it. Also Manga is generally secondary canon so I don't see why it's not usable. Unless you have proof story itself is different from original then it's not usable. But it's a different thing here Author does given some contribution.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
I'm pretty sure Manga Volume 2 has short story which is not included in the LN. Yet it was written by same Author and given to the Manga
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Fair enough, what about manga-only scene tho? I saw we use a Supersonic calc but the feat doesn't happen in the LN.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
He had given short stories to the Manga. Official translation Vol 1 Book has it. I think it's fair to say he involved in it. Also Manga is generally secondary canon so I don't see why it's not usable. Unless you have proof story itself is different from original then it's not usable. But it's a different thing here Author does given some contribution.
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I've never seen this before, how'd you find it?
 
Shadowslaya! said:
I've never seen this before, how'd you find it?
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It's from Official Volumes Releases from Yen Press
Zefra3011 said:
Fair enough, what about manga-only scene tho? I saw we use a Supersonic calc but the feat doesn't happen in the LN.
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There is no change in plot. Manga came later LN. So small changes in feats should be usable as Author might have thought it's good to add those scenes there.
 
I was told the anime is not canon or smth, making Cid not scale to that 4-C and MFTL+ calc

because the LN doesn't even have cid reaching said tier and speed
 
XxZetsuxX said:
I was told the anime is not canon or smth, making Cid not scale to that 4-C and MFTL+ calc

because the LN doesn't even have cid reaching said tier and speed
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The anime was advertised by Daisuke himself, so it should be canon regardless. Either way, this is very hypocritical since a lot of profiles for characters that are separated are also non canon.



So I see no reason as to not add the anime tbh.



Also I know the new profile isn't finished yet, but I'd like to say some stuff about it:



1. There's a bunch of spelling errors, I would love to be able to edit it so I can help fix them?



2. Light Novel Cid's ap should be small planetary planetary via the blotting out the world statement in Vol 4.



3. Cid's durability should also be small planetary and not large mountain level, don't see why his dura wouldn't scale to his ap...Same for his striking strength as well.



4. His speed should receive a "Possibly immeasurable speed" key as a potential upgrade or something. Why? Because Alpha was stated to override the concept of space twice and Cid reacted to her while in his John Smith form(he was holding back btw).



That's pretty much all for Ln Cid.



But anime Cid should be MFTL+ and small planetary to solar system level with ease via his S2 ep12 IAM(in the game he has a similar feat btw).



I love how the profile is looking but I genuinely would like to see Cid being scales accurately and not just capped at island and HS+ right now.
 
Shadowslaya! said:
The anime was advertised by Daisuke himself, so it should be canon regardless. Either way, this is very hypocritical since a lot of profiles for characters that are separated are also non canon.



So I see no reason as to not add the anime tbh.
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Need a seperate version for LN.
Shadowslaya! said:
2. Light Novel Cid's ap should be small planetary planetary via the blotting out the world statement in Vol 4.
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As far as I know his magic only coverd the capital in the LN.
Magic gathers at Shadow’s right hand. It’s so powerful the very air begins to quiver. The magic gradually gains in intensity, and before long, the entire capital is shaking. Tempestuous winds blow every whichway. Clouds whirl through the sky and spit out lightning. The magic practically seems to suck it all in as it continues collecting itself. The people at the center of that little world begin seeing flashes of bluish-purple light.
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Even mentioned little world, in a sense comparing to the capital he covered.
Shadowslaya! said:
4. His speed should receive a "Possibly immeasurable speed" key as a potential upgrade or something. Why? Because Alpha was stated to override the concept of space twice and Cid reacted to her while in his John Smith form(he was holding back btw).
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Overriding the concept of space was an error from the official translations, nothing like that mentioned in the actual raws (Japanese version)
彼女が霧から現れる速度、そして霧の中に消える速度が凄まじく速い。 間合いを無視して一方的に攻撃し、物理法則を無視して理不尽に回避する。
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Godsatoshi23 said:
Need a seperate version for LN.

As far as I know his magic only coverd the capital in the LN.

Even mentioned little world, in a sense comparing to the capital he covered.

Overriding the concept of space was an error from the official translations, nothing like that mentioned in the actual raws (Japanese version)
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I'm actually okay with the anime having a separate profile, if it means he gets scaled accurately there.

No, his magic did not cover the country where does this come from bro. It says blotting out the world thrice.

As for the Alpha scans, can't you still argue infinite speed.
 
Not to be annoying but I really wouldn't try to scale them to tier 5 or infinite/imm speed over flowery language, ngl.
 
Zefra3011 said:
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... might be, if you wanna list few it would help us.
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😭 I'm genuinely too lazy to go point them all out. The bolded words are the one's that need to be fixed btw:

1.Training; Abilities - Started training his magic since childhood[1], eventually surpassing in both control and strenght fighters with over

2. Inducement (Cid was showned to hit people in the weak points of the human body such as the heart[1] and arteries which made Olivier body convulse[2]

3. Invisibility (Copied Fenrir's technique which allows the user to conceal one's presence to the absolute most the the point that the opponent can only see a single slash even tho

4. Damage Boost (By infusing their weapons with magic they can strenghten the weapon[1])

These are all, thank you.
 
Shadowslaya! said:
😭 I'm genuinely too lazy to go point them all out. The bolded words are the one's that need to be fixed btw:

1.Training; Abilities - Started training his magic since childhood[1], eventually surpassing in both control and strenght fighters with over

2. Inducement (Cid was showned to hit people in the weak points of the human body such as the heart[1] and arteries which made Olivier body convulse[2]

3. Invisibility (Copied Fenrir's technique which allows the user to conceal one's presence to the absolute most the the point that the opponent can only see a single slash even tho

4. Damage Boost (By infusing their weapons with magic they can strenghten the weapon[1])

These are all, thank you.
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appreciate
 
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