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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Damage3245 said:
Just to play Devil's Advocate; is there anything that indicates that souls are normally invisible to people in Naruto? I don't think assuming default invisibility for souls or spiritual things makes sense for fictional settings where it should really be a case-by-case sort of thing.
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I don’t think we need to prove things that are default assumptions
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Yeah definitely. Bleach fans are sleeping on Naruto characters. Shinobis are capable of seeing souls:
Naruto saw his soul when Nagato was ripping it (Nagato can see it as well because he's the caster of jutsu) (can scale to other characters that met human path)
Totsuka Blade is stated to be a spiritual weapon and itachi, Orochimaru & both zetsus saw it without any problems
Choza saw dan's soul after casting Soul Transfer jutsu
Naruto saw Minato's soul, and Sasuke saw Itachi's soul after releasing edo Tensei (and other shinobis saw the souls of edos after releasing Edo Tensei)
Jinchurikis and Susanoo user can interact with souls:
Every jinchuriki and bijuu has NPI because of the accepted scaling of them to Naruto:
Naruto was able to touch his soul and had a lifting fight with nagato for taking back his soul (Nagato also hasn't any problems at interacting with them)
Susanoo is physical manifestation of user's chakra or soul, and it can wield & interact with spiritual weapons like totsuka Blade which hasn't any physical forms

Edit: there are a lot of more feats, but im sure this is fine
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Urahara's stick is enough. They can't fight in soul form.

Their soul manipulation don't compare to bleach.
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
I don’t think we need to prove things that are default assumptions
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That's my point; I don't think that kind of thing should necessarily be a default assumption. Just because we can't see souls in real life doesn't automatically apply to fictional scenarios.
 
Damage3245 said:
That's my point; I don't think that kind of thing should necessarily be a default assumption. Just because we can't see souls in real life doesn't automatically apply to fictional scenarios.
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Unfortunately that is how powerscaling operates you don’t get to pick and choose what you want to apply

Real Life laws apply 100% to every fictional verse by default unless the story says otherwise
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Unfortunately that is how powerscaling operates you don’t get to pick and choose what you want to apply

Real Life laws apply 100% to every fictional verse by default unless the story says otherwise
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That's not a real life law, but whatever.
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Yeah definitely. Bleach fans are sleeping on Naruto characters. Shinobis are capable of seeing souls:
Naruto saw his soul when Nagato was ripping it (Nagato can see it as well because he's the caster of jutsu) (can scale to other characters that met human path)
Totsuka Blade is stated to be a spiritual weapon and itachi, Orochimaru & both zetsus saw it without any problems
Choza saw dan's soul after casting Soul Transfer jutsu
Naruto saw Minato's soul, and Sasuke saw Itachi's soul after releasing edo Tensei (and other shinobis saw the souls of edos after releasing Edo Tensei)
Jinchurikis and Susanoo user can interact with souls:
Every jinchuriki and bijuu has NPI because of the accepted scaling of them to Naruto:
Naruto was able to touch his soul and had a lifting fight with nagato for taking back his soul (Nagato also hasn't any problems at interacting with them)
Susanoo is physical manifestation of user's chakra or soul, and it can wield & interact with spiritual weapons like totsuka Blade which hasn't any physical forms

Edit: there are a lot of more feats, but im sure this is fine
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Since they are pretty much walking souls , we will have Itachi fight and use Totsuka blade on them.
 
Samlex1234 said:
Since they are pretty much walking souls , we will have Itachi fight and use Totsuka blade on them.
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"Welcome to the VS Battles wiki. This is about details detaining about battles between characters and verses within fiction or even non-fiction. This is really just to give a grasp on what characters in fiction can do. So that you won't say really stupid things such as Naruto is stronger than Goku or Superman due to your lack of knowledge of these three characters."
 
Demon_Lord18 said:
"Welcome to the VS Battles wiki. This is about details detaining about battles between characters and verses within fiction or even non-fiction. This is really just to give a grasp on what characters in fiction can do. So that you won't say really stupid things such as Naruto is stronger than Goku or Superman due to your lack of knowledge of these three characters."
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Naruto being stronger than Goku is not far stretched.
 
Samlex1234 said:
Naruto being stronger than Goku is not far stretched.
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Ghostimuscrime said:
please stop speaking, you're being just like adam 💔


edit : we don't need this situation on our heads
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You shouldn't obstruct a naruto fan being a naruto fan. This is cringe. He sounds just like you, like your brethens. It's not new to us.
Getting compared to Goku and naruto franchise fan is the last thing I want.

It's truly incredible, that pathetic verse can't even interact with gremmy's creation.
 
Damage3245 said:
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VSBW scalings are not a universal standard for power scaling, and even on the wiki character rankings are constantly Fluctuating. At one point, Bleach's top god-tier characters were considered continental level, but now they have been reassessed to Tier 3 and even Tier 2. Similarly, Naruto characters like Baryon Mode Naruto and Isshiki were previously ranked 5-C (Moon level) but have now been reassigned to Low 4-C (Small Star level).

When it comes to Dragon Ball, Gokus's power level is considered Low Multiversal, based on the cosmology of his universe. If we apply similar logic to Naruto’s cosmology, it could easily scale to Tier 2-C. Kaguya had enough energy to affect the entire Naruto universe. Thus she scales to 2C and Baryon Mode Naruto Scales Even Higher. I know you can’t just believe it, but this is fiction.
 
ReaperAndBlues

Thread 'Bleach Brain Souls, A Bleach Intelligence Revision: Part 4, Fraud Zero to Squad Hero, With a Little Strawberry Twist'

Yeah, it's me again. It's been a little while since the last Bleach intelligence revamp, but rather than do it on a case by case basis, I'm gonna start doing these in batches starting with the first being, if the title wasn't obvious enough: Squad 0. I'm also adding a little extra to Ichigo's profile from this cour and what I forgot to add back in my original.

First, Ichigo. In episode 40, he performed a new feat: He fired a small Getsuga Tenshou at Uryu's feet and fired another at Wahrwelt to create a smoke screen. Afterwards, he suspends his sword in midair to fool Uryu into thinking he...
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I'm bored, so why not kick off the cour 3 revisions on my end
 
Bro, it was peaceful for months, why all of a sudden so many people from Boruto thread arguing here. If anything, both Bleach and Naruto are constantly under scrutiny simply because of their massive popularity. Meanwhile, plenty of other verses get away with way lower standards just because they aren’t as mainstream
 
Tyri456 said:
Bro, it was peaceful for months, why all of a sudden so many people from Boruto thread arguing here. If anything, both Bleach and Naruto are constantly under scrutiny simply because of their massive popularity. Meanwhile, plenty of other verses get away with way lower standards just because they aren’t as mainstream
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Just look at Castlevania or Instant Death. So much shit is getting removed because Damage hasn't been giving them the rundown.
 
Tyri456 said:
Bro, it was peaceful for months, why all of a sudden so many people from Boruto thread arguing here. If anything, both Bleach and Naruto are constantly under scrutiny simply because of their massive popularity. Meanwhile, plenty of other verses get away with way lower standards just because they aren’t as mainstream
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I agree with this

Stuff like this is starting to make me heavily scrutinise unpopular verses
 
The thing about these less popular verses is that they have much less common knowledge compared to others and therefore mods can't really scrutinize them like they can with a popular verse where they not only have the common knowledge, but also have read/watched it themselves. Nobody knows what the f**k Dies Ire is, only likely knowing it due to it's association with the term "Masadaverse". In that same vein, this also applies (or rather applied) to the Nasuverse, although it's definitely more popular than the former. Combine this with mods who know this specific knowledge and are basically yes men for these upgrades, and you get shit like that because then the other mods will just go "I suppose this works" because they don't have that same knowledge or care to scrutinize.

If we tried to argue half of this shit for Bleach or DB, it would get shot down in milliseconds.
 
It’s one of the parts that I unfortunately think can’t be improved upon because we can’t gatekeep upgrades for a series just because no staff consumes their content
 
Tyri456 said:
Bro, it was peaceful for months, why all of a sudden so many people from Boruto thread arguing here. If anything, both Bleach and Naruto are constantly under scrutiny simply because of their massive popularity. Meanwhile, plenty of other verses get away with way lower standards just because they aren’t as mainstream
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I've brought such talks many times.
Just waiting for bleach cosmology vlog.

Then I will decide whether to mass downgrade or not
 
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