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Cat Noir Supernatural bad luck addition??

Lort15

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Okay so i saw a statement from Thomas, this might help for this ability to be applied if the translation is correct

Supernatural Luck (bad): A cataclysm is a stroke of "bad luck".

Disease manipulation: If a human gets hit, it can make them sick

Minor biological manipulation: If a human gets hit, make them lose hair

Madness manipulation: If a human gets hit, it can drive them crazy, like how cataclysm works on sentimonsters


(A cataclysm does not make a human "disappear". A cataclysm is a stroke
of "bad luck". It can be anything. If a human gets hit, it can kill him,
hurt him, make him sick, make him lose his hair ... or even drive him
crazy!)

This is also supported in the show we have seen cataclysm destroying stuff like in many ways such as completely destroying them, turning them into smoke, dust, making tech gets short circuited etc...

So basically Cat Noir's cataclysm gives bad luck to oppent/item when cataclysm is used on them

Also Miraculous Holders must have resistance to those affects of cataclysm so basically:

Resistance to: Bad luck, Disease Manipulation, Limited Biological Manipulation and Madness manipulation

For Sentimonsters: Same resistances as Miraculous holders but Madness manipulation, Cataclysm drives them mad/craz when they gets cataclysmed always but there isn't other affects of cataclysm.
i need help from translator group 🙏

Agree: ByArrow, jgms2008, TheOrangeGuy09, NatsukiGoatbaru, ProbNotAFelon (agrees with everything except bad luck, must be probability manipulation instead of bad luck according to him), Saqphire, HAKKAIDER, VeneficaAuthor, TWILIGHT-OP, CelestialVortex01, FentyBeauty, Antvasima
Disagree:
Neutral:
The translation is also confirmed by Apotheosis69, special thanks to his assistance about translation and special thanks to ByArrow who made me realize the other abilities of cataclysm from this statement
 
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Tbh it mostly acts as a Deconstruction pretty much all the time, but given that it is mostly used on a non-living stuff, sure…
Also this would remove Cat Noir’s own resistance to deconstruction.
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Tbh it mostly acts as a Deconstruction pretty much all the time, but given that it is mostly used on a non-living stuff, sure…
Also this would remove Cat Noir’s own resistance to deconstruction.
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Cataclysm didn't make him go crazy, kill him or lose hair etc... the result was same for Monarch the suit was slowing down the affect of cataclysm for sure the resistance is in that way
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
He was still injured, meaning that this was his “bad luck”. Being injured. Even Plugg got affected, iirc.
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the resistance explanation was based of slowing down the affect of cataclysm, normally it makes something destroy,turn into dust etc... instantly but on miraculous holders the affect is slowed down and thomas also confirmed that the suit protected Cat Noir from cataclysm

 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Putting direct links instead of Imgur is better tbh, but that still works.

Given Thomas' statement, sure. Although I now think we can upgrade his resistance to Supernatural Bad Luck and all effects of it instead of just Deconstruction.

Good night!
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Thank you bro!! have a good day ❤️
 
ProbNotAFelon said:
I don't think this would be supernatural bad luck (that would imply Cat Noir himself is the one with bad luck) but rather Probability Manipulation; I agree with everything else
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I mean he is kinda, when he activates his own cataclysm the bad luck is in his hand but Cat Noir isn't affacted by his OWN cataclysm (if it is not stolen) but yeah you are still right i suppose
 
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Lort15 said:
Miraculous suits protected Gabriel and Cat noir from the affect of cataclysm making them go crazy unlike sentimonsters
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I don't think it should be type 3, as type 3 works passively, which in cat noir's case it isn't.
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
I don't think it should be type 3, as type 3 works passively, which in cat noir's case it isn't.
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I agree but also this doesn't really fit in any of the 3 types since madness is made specifically for living beings, some of the sentimonsters are not living being which means no brain nor chemicals, biology or cognition to manipulate, we are also never stated how it makes them mad, so type 1 and 2 are out. Miraculous powers are magical in nature so... it should likely be some madness manipulation through reality warp making them act crazy regardless of brain, chemicals or any other thing
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
I agree but also this doesn't really fit in any of the 3 types since madness is made specifically for living beings, some of the sentimonsters are not living being which means no brain nor chemicals, biology or cognition to manipulate, we are also never stated how it makes them mad, so type 1 and 2 are out. Miraculous powers are magical in nature so... it should likely be some madness manipulation through reality warp making them act crazy regardless of brain, chemicals or any other thing
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Didn't Thomas claimed all sentimonsters are living beings?
 
Lort15 said:
Didn't Thomas claimed all sentimonsters are living beings?
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They are sentient for sure but a lot of them don't actually have organic matter, brain, ect which is what's required to fill in the types for madness manipulation,. One great example is Reflekdoll which this wiki has a page for, it's a sentimonster but one that needs a human to control it from inside it's empty head.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
They are sentient for sure but a lot of them don't actually have organic matter, brain, ect which is what's required to fill in the types for madness manipulation,. One great example is Reflekdoll which this wiki has a page for, it's a sentimonster but one that needs a human to control it from inside it's empty head.
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What about banana boom boom, he is meant to be a gorilla
 
Lort15 said:
What about banana boom boom, he is meant to be a gorilla
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I'm not saying that none of them are "living beings"(In this case characters with brain or biology to manipulate somehow), just that not all of them are, of course there is even the Ladybug sentimonster who should be very human. The point is the crazyness that cames out of the sentimonsters is not made through somehow affecting the brain or mind nor biological manipulation so it just doesn't fit none of the 3 types the wiki has now.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
I'm not saying that none of them are "living beings"(In this case characters with brain or biology to manipulate somehow), just that not all of them are, of course there is even the Ladybug sentimonster who should be very human. The point is the crazyness that cames out of the sentimonsters is not made through somehow affecting the brain or mind nor biological manipulation so it just doesn't fit none of the 3 types the wiki has now.
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what should we do with madness manip then? i mean we have to give a type to it
 
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