Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[MinatoSparkle]

 

[Stryker861]

He spittin

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Shibai stopping him trust

 

[Padaruyos]

Thanks

kid obito is featless

He should be above Episode 1 Nard who's 8-B

 

[ssgengar]

Shibai stopping him trust

That’s light work

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Shibai stopping him trust

Would he be able to bypass intent reflection

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Initially I thought it was about dealing with some large planetary avatar and thought oh yeah Naruto verse can definitely crunch up that threat and then realised it was Galactus

 

[Samlex1234]

Try making a Bleach downgrade thread and see how difficult it is to actually get one passed on here.

Oh I see…. So I'm right then, the bleach fans are no pushovers and will never allow you to bully them. However, it is easier for you to get your downgrade passed against the Naruto verse hence why you have been constantly destroying our CRTs.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Not really the message I think damage is trying to convey, but that’s funny regardless

 

[Deceived3596]

Bleach supporters > Damage > Naruto supporters

 

[ssgengar]

Initially I thought it was about dealing with some large planetary avatar and thought oh yeah Naruto verse can definitely crunch up that threat and then realised it was Galactus

Same

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bleach supporters > Damage > Naruto supporters

Sparkle>>>> fr

 

[Samlex1234]

Bleach supporters > Damage > Naruto supporters

Well, not necessarily the common members.



Take a look at the votes from the most recent CRT. Even if a million people agreed with the CRT, all of their votes would count for nothing unless they were bolded.
You saw Damage's message; Bleach fans have an advantage over Naruto fans because the same mods who defend the Bleach verse against Damage downgrade are the ones collaborating with Damage to downgrade the Naruto verse. We had a change this time though, a much-needed win too.


Fun fact
Do you know that the speed of light can go around the entire earth 7 times in less than a second?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

??? There are no Bleach staff… and the staff that help the Bleach threads are the Naruto staff (Slayer, Nierre, Tracer). And trust me rarely if ever are they conspiring with Damage to downgrade Naruto, they’re all primarily Naruto supporters what is this victim mentality

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Samlex when someone isn't 100% supportive of Naruto:

 

[Samlex1234]

??? There are no Bleach staff… and the staff that help the Bleach threads are the Naruto staff (Slayer, Nierre, Tracer). And trust me rarely if ever are they conspiring with Damage to downgrade Naruto, they’re all primarily Naruto supporters what is this victim mentality

No mod is for a verse alone. You can call them supporters but they are neither Naruto staff nor Bleach staff. They are VSBW staff period. Nierre was a regular member who worked on the verse until recently when he became a staff for the wiki, I dont know why you included his name. I never said they conspire I said they collaborate and I'm not wrong.

 

[Samlex1234]

Try making a Bleach downgrade thread and see how difficult it is to actually get one passed on here.

Hmmm it is difficult to get bleach downgrades passed, but easier to get Naruto downgrades passed. Arc mentioned that mainly the Same mods participate in CRTs .

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Hmmm it is difficult to get bleach downgrades passed, but easier to get Naruto downgrades passed. Arc mentioned that mainly the Same mods participate in CRTs .

Maybe Samlex, just maybe, if the staff aren’t what’s changing in these two case studies, the staff aren’t the issue. Plum fvckin wild notion for you I know, but consider it. And before you cry bias against Naruto, all the staff that help out in Bleach like Naruto more than Bleach. So it’s not a mysterious anti-Naruto agenda either. Stop wearing the tin foil hat bro

When good CRTs are made they get passed, 95% of the time it’s as simple as that.

 

[Testarossa002]

Fun fact
Do you know that the speed of light can go around the entire earth 7 times in less than a second?

Repeating this every chance you get in an effort to make Damage look like a hypocrite simply doesn't work because he would happily downgrade any verse with that logic

 

[Samlex1234]

Repeating this every chance you get in an effort to make Damage look like a hypocrite simply doesn't work because he would happily downgrade any verse with that logic

But it will only get passed in the Naruto verse. That is the point.

 

[KingogKings777]

Samlex when someone isn't 100% supportive of Naruto:

skill issue

 

[Samlex1234]

When good CRTs are made they get passed, 95% of the time it’s as simple as that.

False. Lol, do you think we got too low 4C because of good arguments alone? Having good arguments is useless against mods that have a predetermined scaling for a verse. Good arguments only work when you have open-minded Mods analyzing your CRTs, and that is exactly what happened.

 

[Testarossa002]

Hmmm it is difficult to get bleach downgrades passed, but easier to get Naruto downgrades passed. Arc mentioned that mainly the Same mods participate in CRTs .

How is it easier?
His last thread took like 9 pages before reaching a conclusion. Before that even happened, he had to drop like 80% of his initial arguments. Even at that, he had like 1 staff advantage in the final voting tally after including his own vote as the OP
it'll probably be the same for any downgrades after this because I don't think there are lot of things that require obvious downgrades in the verse
On the other hand, the last time bleach had any serious revision (upgrades/downgrades), Naruto was 44 Exatons and FTL

 

[Testarossa002]

But it will only get passed in the Naruto verse. That is the point.

You weren't here when JJK got nerfed from MHS+ to Subsonic despite having multiple supporting "calcs"

 

[Nierre]

stop complaining man. yall literally got a low 4c thread passed for naruto and you're still finding stuff to complain about

 

[HelloThere1089]

Good to see things haven't changed much (except the tier 4 stuff).

 

[Samlex1234]

stop complaining man. yall literally got a low 4c thread passed for naruto and you're still finding stuff to complain about

Try making a Bleach downgrade thread and see how difficult it is to get one passed on here.

I've struggled enough with Bleach in the past; someone else can tackle that one.

If I don't point out this thing. It will keep on happening. Lol, we got FTL Jubito passed too, we had 5B at a point too, we all know the story…..

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

This the type of beef that becomes generational…

 

[Kaydee1648]

stop complaining man. yall literally got a low 4c thread passed for naruto and you're still finding stuff to complain about

i think he loves complaining atp

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Hmmm it is difficult to get bleach downgrades passed, but easier to get Naruto downgrades passed. Arc mentioned that mainly the Same mods participate in CRTs .

Ehh this isn’t true tbh, Bleach has only had a relatively “easy” time recently. For most of its time here on the wiki many of the former mods who are now mostly retired openly conspired against the verse to keep it down because they didn’t like one guy (poor guy is still banned lol). Many threads were over 10 pages long with back and forth upgrades and downgrades lol. The Seireitei alone was about at least 6-10 massive threads.

 

[Godernet]

It's really not that complicated.

Every mod is an individual with their own opinions and thoughts, if a thread isn't deemed convincing enough over any arguments/interpretations that would suggest otherwise, it's denied, if the Mods agree, it's accepted.

There's no hidden Naruto Hate Group that is plotting Naruto's downfall.

Pm every major Naruto mod wants the verse to prosper, only ever talks about things they want to add to the verse to its benefit, and are the main reasons for most of the better hax, scaling, and profiles the verse has.

The reason it appears different to some of the newer goobers is that you came in and chose to fixate on the most controversial and divisive topics that most people are just tired of hearing and talking about for a verse that's mainly trying to give AP a break and fix literally everything else rn, with arguments that for the most part weren't particularly anything new or good even.

I've made like 10 Naruto CRTs since I've been on the site and helped with a few others and I think only 1 of them was rejected and for a reason I can accept.

Ghost made a lot of the same mistakes you're still making in previous CRTs, but he still brushed up his arguments and made a convincing enough Tier 4 Naruto CRT that it was passed by the "evil" mods.

Are Mods immune from being biased? Ofc not, no one is.

Is Mod bias the reason a majority of CRTs fail? Nope, it's usually just a bad argument or a poorly phrased argument that kills a CRT.

That's why it's important for ppl who try to make CRTs to understand that you're opinion isn't law, what's currently accepted isn't even law. it was all argued on previously and can be changed with the right argument.

If you go in with the mentality of "this verse should be this tier, anything less is lowball."

you're probably not getting much passed, and your argument probably carries that same bias.

 

[Samlex1234]

Eh, this isn’t true tbh, Bleach has only had a relatively “easy” time recently. For most of its time here on the wiki many of the former mods who are now mostly retired openly conspired against the verse to keep it down because they didn’t like one guy. Many threads were over 10 pages long with back and forth upgrades and downgrades lol. The Seireitei alone was about at least 6-10 massive threads.

Naruto went through hell in the past too. And we are still going through it to some extent , we take 2 steps forward then go back 5 steps again, in the last 4 years the god tier of the verse went from 5c to 5A to 5c then to low 5 b where it has been until recently. Less than a month ago the speed of the verse was nearly downgraded to High Hypersonic+. The only reason that didn't happen was because Damage dropped it; however, the same arguments he made for removing the Juubito FTL was supposed to cap the verse at lightning speed, meaning he did that just to keep the verse from scaling higher.


I know many Naruto fans might not take the statement that damage made seriously. But I tell you it has many implications for this verse. He just told you he has it easier downgrading the Naruto verse than the Bleach verse. What does that tell you? You think it is about the factual arguments? I promise you the speed CRT is just the beginning.

 

[Damage3245]

Hmmm it is difficult to get bleach downgrades passed, but easier to get Naruto downgrades passed. Arc mentioned that mainly the Same mods participate in CRTs .

Because there's a lot more evidence in favour of Bleach's ratings than there is in favour of Naruto's ratings is what i meant. Not that staff are collaborating together in a biased away.

The persecution complex has got to stop.

 

[Godernet]

also, Bleach is the way it is now because Arc and Deceived are just good at making CRTs and arguing their points.

the HST as I'm sure you're aware has a reputation for rabid fans so a lot of mods stay away from it.

And even from that small pool of Mods, Bleach of probably the least favorited out of the HST as far as Mod traction and from what I've seen the least amount of Mods that care for the series.

If the Mods care the least for Bleach, for Bleach to be doing as good as it is, the supporters have to be just performing better.

It also helps that Bleach as a series leaves a lot less topics for interpretation whereas you can have lengthy discussions about even the tiniest scaling topics for OP and Naruto.

 

[Samlex1234]

It's really not that complicated.

Every mod is an individual with their own opinions and thoughts, if a thread isn't deemed convincing enough over any arguments/interpretations that would suggest otherwise, it's denied, if the Mods agree, it's accepted.

There's no hidden Naruto Hate Group that is plotting Naruto's downfall.

Pm every major Naruto mod wants the verse to prosper, only ever talks about things they want to add to the verse to its benefit, and are the main reasons for most of the better hax, scaling, and profiles the verse has.

The reason it appears different to some of the newer goobers is that you came in and chose to fixate on the most controversial and divisive topics that most people are just tired of hearing and talking about for a verse that's mainly trying to give AP a break and fix literally everything else rn, with arguments that for the most part weren't particularly anything new or good even.

I've made like 10 Naruto CRTs since I've been on the site and helped with a few others and I think only 1 of them was rejected and for a reason I can accept.

Ghost made a lot of the same mistakes you're still making in previous CRTs, but he still brushed up his arguments and made a convincing enough Tier 4 Naruto CRT that it was passed by the "evil" mods.

Are Mods immune from being biased? Ofc not, no one is.

Is Mod bias the reason a majority of CRTs fail? Nope, it's usually just a bad argument or a poorly phrased argument that kills a CRT.

That's why it's important for ppl who try to make CRTs to understand that you're opinion isn't law, what's currently accepted isn't even law. it was all argued on previously and can be changed with the right argument.

If you go in with the mentality of "this verse should be this tier, anything less is lowball."

you're probably not getting anything passed, and your argument is probably riddled with incredulity.

Evill modss? Lol chill I never called them evil. DDM, Nierre, due dates wow what a lucky combination we had. Go and take a look at all of the mods that disagreed with most of Ghost CRT, I promise you, you will not find those names there because most of the time they engage in good faith.

 

[Samlex1234]

Because there's a lot more evidence in favour of Bleach's ratings than there is in favour of Naruto's ratings is what I meant. Not that staff are collaborating together in a biased away.

The persecution complex has got to stop.

I've struggled enough with Bleach in the past; someone else can tackle that one.

Try making a Bleach downgrade thread and see how difficult it is to actually get one passed on here.

This is your comment, not mine, lol Damage is all of a sudden in agreement with the bleach scaling, your past votes/interactions says otherwise.

“Our power can shake the heaven and earth”

 

[Damage3245]

This is your comment, not mine, lol Damage is all of a sudden in agreement with the bleach scaling, your past votes/interactions says otherwise.

You've misinterpreted me. Struggled enough with Bleach =/= struggled enough with Bleach supporting staff members.

I said nothing about being in compete agreement with current Bleach scaling; it's just that (and I hope this should be obvious) just because something has some support or logic to it doesn't mean it is rock-solid or that there aren't contradictions.

 

[HelloThere1089]

Wasn't expecting a crusade when I logged back in. (I 100% was expecting it)

 

[Damage3245]

Wasn't expecting a crusade when I logged back in. (I 100% was expecting it)

I make an innocent comment venting, and someone spins it into a whole conspiracy, lol

 

[HelloThere1089]

I make an innocent comment venting, and someone spins it into a whole conspiracy, lol

Nah bro. You must be stopped. Can't have people saying that Naruto fans are pushovers.