Tokyo Revenger revision (2)

[Vzearr]

Calculations:​

Speed:​

Ryusei saves Baji - 454 m/s (Supersonic)​

Baji shatters a windshield - 3306 m/s (Hypersonic)​

Izana saves Kakucho from bullets - 4536 m/s (Hypersonic+)​

These calculations will bump up character to hypersonic+.​

AP:​

Dude craters a wall - 1.36 Megajoules​

There is an accepted multiplier, and in that multiplier, the dude who cratered the wall scales to 30 percent, so, 100 percent strength Taiju would = 4.53 Megajoules (Wall level)​

LS:​

Taiju smashes a bunch of dudes - 18374 kg (Class 25)​

Taiju slams some Toman members - 32874 kg (Class 50)​

These calculations will bump up characters to Class 50.​

 

[MorrisHatesYou]

Nice, agreed !

 

[Manhattanth06]

Nice , agreed!

 

[Dinozxd]

The multiplier has one acceptance while Mr.Bambu thinks adding it as a "Likely" rating is more suitable.

 

[Vzearr]

The multiplier has one acceptance while Mr.Bambu thinks adding it as a "Likely" rating is more suitable.

That's why I said "likely"

Likely 27.7 Megajoules (Small building level)​

 

[Nierre]

this is fine

 

[Arceus0x]

Bro did the thing Vapourrrr failed to do in like 20 CRTs, in 2 CRTs

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright

 

[Theglassman12]

Looks pretty good to me

 

[Dalesean027]

I personally disagree as its a huge narrative outlier for any of these characters to be hypersonic considering the sheer enormity of guys who died getting shot and drakens infamous "guns are dangeous" statement he makes when he's also literally shot and killed...

I'll speak more on how this is a narrative outlier later

The 9-A and LS is fine though

 

[Dinozxd]

That's why I said "likely"

Oh I suddenly forgot how to read then lol. I agree with the CRT, though we need to set up a Lifting strength scaling chain to apply the Class 50 upgrade properly.

 

[Dalesean027]

I personally disagree as its a huge narrative outlier for any of these characters to be hypersonic considering the sheer enormity of guys who died getting shot and drakens infamous "guns are dangeous" statement he makes when he's also literally shot and killed...

I'll speak more on how this is a narrative outlier later

The 9-A and LS is fine though

I thought I'd have the energy to go through all the big feats and everything or all the moments of people dying from getting shot but i am just too busy and am not gonna have the energy to argue this so I'll just leave my disagreement and leave it there to not hold up the thread

 

[Zefra3011]

Baji shatters a windshield - 3306 m/s (Hypersonic)​

I just realized this feat is entirely anime-only, and in the manga, he doesn’t do anything like breaking a windhsield. (manga feat)
I also find it ridiculous to use an anime-only feat to scale current mid-tiers like Baji to the point where they completely demolish all the currently accepted speed calcs.

Izana saves Kakucho from bullets - 4536 m/s (Hypersonic+)​

These calculations will bump up character to hypersonic+.​

If you ignore all the most recent CRTs about this specific feat where, after tons of threads, we came to the agreement that the current version (300 m/s) is the most reliable, sure, it makes sense to add this. Especially since you didn't even explained why this version is better than the last.

AP:​

Dude craters a wall - 8.31 Megajoules​

I'll just ctrl c ctrl v what I said in another crt about this feat

Why is the depth of the chest used for both calcs when he clearly isn’t inside the wall? (scan) Unless I misunderstood, if the entire chest depth is equal to the depth of the crater, the situation would be like this, which we clearly haven’t seen or at least it’s unclear from this POV.

I also found out that walls are at most 30 cm thick, so if we take the average measurement, Chifuyu would have passed through it. Even with the highball estimate, he would have almost passed through, which isn't the case, assuming the depth you proposed. Another source.

I thought I'd have the energy to go through all the big feats and everything or all the moments of people dying from getting shot but i am just too busy and am not gonna have the energy to argue this so I'll just leave my disagreement and leave it there to not hold up the thread

Draken getting scared that the fastest character in the verse might get shot.

Draken most infamous statement

I also find it funny how this CRT proposes Baji to be 3 km/s, yet Kakucho, who would completely outclass him in speed, is presented in the same CRT as needing to be saved from bullets.

Also, the same character who is presented as being 4.5 km/s decides to use guns against someone comparable to him after a fight (see the first scan I linked). He apparently woke up and decided that using attacks 11.8x slower than his opponent was a good idea.


Just to point something out about the first calc, Baji is supposed to be equal to, if not stronger than, Ryusei, yet in this scene, Ryusei intercepts something Baji couldn't even react to or save himself from. Do what you will with that information.

@Dinozxd, I know you responded in another CRT, but I didn't find it convincing. Baji not wanting to be held back doesn't explain why he wouldn't at least try to dodge attacks. According to this calc, he should be effortlessly 100x faster.

Also, I'm pretty sure Dmua disagreed on the blog. Plus, considering the bullet outlier situation, I don’t see why low/mid tiers should be surpassing the speed of the fastest bullet used in the verse. (381 m/s)

 

[Vzearr]

I just realized this feat is entirely anime-only, and in the manga, he doesn’t do anything like breaking a windhsield. (manga feat)
I also find it ridiculous to use an anime-only feat to scale current mid-tiers like Baji to the point where they completely demolish all the currently accepted speed calcs.

Anime provided more detail to what happened in the manga, you can see the feat in the manga, therefore it's valid.

If you ignore all the most recent CRTs about this specific feat where, after tons of threads, we came to the agreement that the current version (300 m/s) is the most reliable, sure, it makes sense to add this. Especially since you didn't even explained why this version is better than the last.

This version is more consistent with the distances, from what I read of the past threads.

Why is the depth of the chest used for both calcs when he clearly isn’t inside the wall? (scan) Unless I misunderstood, if the entire chest depth is equal to the depth of the crater, the situation would be like this, which we clearly haven’t seen or at least it’s unclear from this POV.

He is very clearly inside of the wall, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I also found out that walls are at most 30 cm thick, so if we take the average measurement, Chifuyu would have passed through it. Even with the highball estimate, he would have almost passed through, which isn't the case, assuming the depth you proposed. Another source.

This debunks nothing.

Draken getting scared that the fastest character in the verse might get shot.

I'll quote @Dinozxd from our dms. "He was only scared because it looked like Mikey wanted to get shot, as punishment for letting Emma die."

Draken most infamous statement

A knife is classified as a dangerous weapon in this verse, even though it has no speed, presupposing the statement is in relation to the guns speed and not the fact that it can penetrate the characters skin isn't the greatest thing, which is why I believe a possibly rating would work here.

Just to point something out about the first calc, Baji is supposed to be equal to, if not stronger than, Ryusei, yet in this scene, Ryusei intercepts something Baji couldn't even react to or save himself from. Do what you will with that information.

I'll quote Dinozxd in this as I also had this same question, "Baji was trying not to fight because if he did his mother would punish him".

Also, I'm pretty sure Dmua disagreed on the blog. Plus, considering the bullet outlier situation, I don’t see why low/mid tiers should be surpassing the speed of the fastest bullet used in the verse. (381 m/s)

Dmua rejected it but didn't come back, his rejection isn't as valid in that scenario.

 

[Zefra3011]

Anime provided more detail to what happened in the manga, you can see the feat in the manga, therefore it's valid.

It's not adding details, it's changing, even if briefly, the scene.

A knife is classified as a dangerous weapon in this verse, even though it has no speed, presupposing the statement is in relation to the guns speed and not the fact that it can penetrate the characters skin isn't the greatest thing, which is why I believe a possibly rating would work here.

A knife's speed depends on the user, a gun has the same speed even if the user is MFTL+. Piercing damage means nothing when you can just no diffs bullets speed wise.

I'll quote Dinozxd in this as I also had this same question, "Baji was trying not to fight because if he did his mother would punish him".

In fact I said "save himself from", never said he had to fight back, he could have just outspeed the attack and run.

 

[Vzearr]

It's not adding details, it's changing, even if briefly, the scene.

Not necessarily.

A knife's speed depends on the user, a gun has the same speed even if the user is MFTL+. Piercing damage means nothing when you can just no diffs bullets speed wise.

It's a recognition of potential, Draken acknowledges that a gun is a dangerous weapon in general, even if he himself can outpace it. He could be aware of the gun's lethality, that it's a danger to others, not necessarily to him. Which again, is why I suggest a possibly rating.

In fact I said "save himself from", never said he had to fight back, he could have just outspeed the attack and run.

You're suggesting that this character is slower then no names then.

 

[Zefra3011]

It's a recognition of potential, Draken acknowledges that a gun is a dangerous weapon in general, even if he himself can outpace it. He could be aware of the gun's lethality, that it's a danger to others, not necessarily to him. Which again, is why I suggest a possibly rating.

Me when an attack tens time slower than me approaches: >>

No but seriously, all these things were already been discussed. Izana feat got somewhat accapeted just because the anime showed him running after the bullet got shot. Draken's feat was discussed as well, this piercing damage argument was discussed as well. You weren't here when all the super+ calcs got nuked.

You're suggesting that this character is slower then no names then.

Baji? Might as well be narrative wise. I don't mean slower than them but at the same time not that much faster he can outspeed and blitz NPCs. Its not the first time he has trouble fighting NPCs iirc.

+ if I wanna be brutal I can pull out the "God tiers are slower than motorcycles" card, don't make me angry!

 

[Vzearr]

No but seriously, all these things were already been discussed. Izana feat got somewhat accapeted just because the anime showed him running after the bullet got shot. Draken's feat was discussed as well, this piercing damage argument was discussed as well. You weren't here when all the super+ calcs got nuked.

If you aren't going to debate me, I'll consider you conceding.

Baji? Might as well be narrative wise. I don't mean slower than them but at the same time not that much faster he can outspeed and blitz NPCs. Its not the first time he has trouble fighting NPCs iirc.

Not sure about this, but from what I recall with my conversation with morris, Baji is capable of taking on 12 no names.

 

[Zefra3011]

If you aren't going to debate me, I'll consider you conceding.

There is a discussion rule for not trying to scale the verse above supersonic without new evidences. So just by that Izana's feat should be a no; same with all these arguments, nothing new, the discussion rule was made so these CRTs dont repeat.

Not sure about this, but from what I recall with my conversation with morris, Baji is capable of taking on 12 no names.

Sure, pretty much all captains can do that but it's mainly because they outclass them in strenght. The first visual blitz, FTE without the need of a calc, is Angry, who scales above Baji and the likes. Narrative wise they aren't treat to be that fast unless I forgot something.

 

[Vzearr]

There is a discussion rule for not trying to scale the verse above supersonic without new evidences. So just by that Izana's feat should be a no; same with all these arguments, nothing new, the discussion rule was made so these CRTs dont repeat.

I'm still going to discuss it because I believe the reasoning behind your debunks is wrong. I'm sure no one would mind.

 

[Zefra3011]

I'm still going to discuss it because I believe the reasoning behind your debunks is wrong. I'm sure no one would mind.

Sigh

Do as you like but as long as the rule remains I don't see why Izana's feat should be upgraded especially when you didn't even mention why this version is better than the currently accepted one. Unless you bring up new arguments of course, which means you should know what has been discussed in the past.

 

[MorrisHatesYou]

I just realized this feat is entirely anime-only, and in the manga, he doesn’t do anything like breaking a windhsield. (manga feat)
I also find it ridiculous to use an anime-only feat to scale current mid-tiers like Baji to the point where they completely demolish all the currently accepted speed calcs.

Oh boy, I knew you're gonna come up with this argument.

The shattering of the windshield itself isn't in the manga.
However, what happened in the manga also did happen in the anime, that is baji attacking randoms, we don't get to know the actual speed in which Baji attacks. That's where the anime added an element in which the speed of the actual attacks can be found. It's just like anime adding timeframe for feats in which we don't know the timeframe of in the manga.

If you ignore all the most recent CRTs about this specific feat where, after tons of threads, we came to the agreement that the current version (300 m/s) is the most reliable, sure, it makes sense to add this. Especially since you didn't even explained why this version is better than the last.

I agree that a thread had to be made about this but Vzearr have seen different versions of this feat and agrees that the distance derived from when the feat is actually happening, is more accurate. But I agree a thread has to be made for the replacement

Draken getting scared that the fastest character in the verse might get shot.

Draken most infamous statement

Like how Takemichi is concerned with Kakucho getting killed by Sanzu who is wielding a katana, even though Kakucho is miles ahead of Sanzu.

Same with how Concerned other characters are when Mucho grabbed a knife and tried to kill angry, even though Angry outsped mucho significantly.

TR characters always have that reaction when someone is faced with weapons that can kill instantly, while that doesn't say that they're automatically faster than bullets, it neutralize the default assumption that speed is the problem, in that case the burden falls on you to explain why speed is the problem.

I also find it funny how this CRT proposes Baji to be 3 km/s, yet Kakucho, who would completely outclass him in speed, is presented in the same CRT as needing to be saved from bullets.

If we're gonna limit kakucho because of that scene, we might as well scale him to below average human speed since he runs at the speed in regards to that scene.

Also, the same character who is presented as being 4.5 km/s decides to use guns against someone comparable to him after a fight (see the first scan I linked). He apparently woke up and decided that using attacks 11.8x slower than his opponent was a good idea.

And the same character in question outpaces the gun in the next scene.
And there are no moments in TR in which characters, especially mid-high tiers get explicitly outsped or blitzed by bullets, and looking at how izana outpaces the bullets, that tell something.

 

[Zefra3011]

Aight, forget everything, I aint going to 1v2 if you use the same exact arguments, I'll just bring up the discussion rule and that's it.

For Baji's new calc my thoughts remain the same, the manga shows him beating them normally without shattering glass, the anime adds that element changing the scene slightly, it's an anime only thing, it's not adding details, you are not finding Baji's speed with the frames of the anime which would be completely legit, you are finding his speed using something that in the manga doesn't exist. You wanna call changing the scene "adding details"? Sigh, you do you.

 

[Vzearr]

Sigh

Do as you like but as long as the rule remains I don't see why Izana's feat should be upgraded especially when you didn't even mention why this version is better than the currently accepted one. Unless you bring up new arguments of course, which means you should know what has been discussed in the past.

Problems with the recalc:​

Lowballed distance moved:​

Izana moved the full distance, from his starting point, I know this as only one pair of footsteps can be heard during the run to the guy holding the gun, which implies Izana stood still during the other dudes running.​

This panel is the most accurate one.​

Visually, this panel is wrong, as previous panels have delinquents about 2-3 meters away from the shooter, but in this panel, they're all extremely far, making the panel inconsistent. If we're going with consistency, the panel corbinmlg used is the most accurate.

Now, lets go into the actual panel that dale uses. He doesn't pixel scale to the shooter, which produces low results, he also doesn't account for the fact the shooter back was extended and in this panel it isn't, he also forgot to account for the fact the shooter fell backwards, making the distance between the shooter and the guy who out paced the bullets much smaller.
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[Zefra3011]

Problems with the recalc:​

Lowballed distance moved:​

Izana moved the full distance, from his starting point, I know this as only one pair of footsteps can be heard during the run to the guy holding the gun, which implies Izana stood still during the other dudes running.​

This panel is the most accurate one.​

Visually, this panel is wrong, as previous panels have delinquents about 2-3 meters away from the shooter, but in this panel, they're all extremely far, making the panel inconsistent. If we're going with consistency, the panel corbinmlg used is the most accurate.

Now, lets go into the actual panel that dale uses. He doesn't pixel scale to the shooter, which produces low results, he also doesn't account for the fact the shooter back was extended and in this panel it isn't, he also forgot to account for the fact the shooter fell backwards, making the distance between the shooter and the guy who out paced the bullets much smaller.
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I'll properly check and reply tomorrow night.

 

[Vzearr]

I'll properly check and reply tomorrow night.

By that time this thread will have been applied.

 

[Zefra3011]

By that time this thread will have been applied.

Sure, I'll call sick at work to debate if delinquents who can't even outrun motorcycles can surpass the speed of sound several times or not.

Have a good night guys, you have the approvals, I can't stop you.

 

[Vzearr]

I'd love to wait to hear your response, but I just don't have time, my challenge requires so many verses to be fixed, I need to get the verses I'm working on fixed asap.

 

[MorrisHatesYou]

For Baji's new calc my thoughts remain the same, the manga shows him beating them normally without shattering glass, the anime adds that element changing the scene slightly, it's an anime only thing, it's not adding details, you are not finding Baji's speed with the frames of the anime which would be completely legit, you are finding his speed using something that in the manga doesn't exist. You wanna call changing the scene "adding details"? Sigh, you do you.

You're not even responding to my response lol.
Im saying that we don't get to know the actual speed in which Baji attacks, the anime just added an element in which the actual attacks speed can be found. It's that plain and simple.

 

[Viott]

Speed:​

Ryusei saves Baji - 454 m/s (Supersonic)​

You used the swing speed of an average professional baseball player, this kid is not even a baseball player, he's just an ordinary bum, so you can't use that speed.

Baji shatters a windshield - 3306 m/s (Hypersonic)​

The breaking of the windshield is not in the manga, using the speed of the glass to find the time frame is very wrong.

Izana saves Kakucho from bullets - 4536 m/s (Hypersonic+)

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In the calculation, the distance between the tip of the gun and Kakucho is 0.45 meters. But when we look at the panel below, we see that it is at least 3 meters. Lol.

Dude craters a wall - 8.31 Megajoules​

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You can't use V.frag just because there are a few small parts, that's ridiculous, the entire volume has to be as small as a pebble. This wall was cracked, most or even all of the material was still there, the impact wasn't strong enough for the pieces to fall out.

 

[Viott]

Taiju smashes a bunch of dudes - 18374 kg (Class 25)​

Striking strenght cannot be calculated as lifting strength.

Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...

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Taiju slams some Toman members - 32874 kg (Class 50)​

Striking strenght cannot be calculated as lifting strength.

Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...

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[Vzearr]

You used the swing speed of an average professional baseball player, this kid is not even a baseball player, he's just an ordinary bum, so you can't use that speed.

Okay, I'll ask the OP to change it.

The breaking of the windshield is not in the manga, using the speed of the glass to find the time frame is very wrong.

The anime is cannon to the manga. Also wdym by using the speed of the glass to find the timeframe is wrong?

In the calculation, the distance between the tip of the gun and Kakucho is 0.45 meters. But when we look at the panel below, we see that it is at least 3 meters. Lol.

Already debunked this image.

You can't use V.frag just because there are a few small parts, that's ridiculous, the entire volume has to be as small as a pebble. This wall was cracked, most or even all of the material was still there, the impact wasn't strong enough for the pieces to fall out.

You seemingly don't understand why I'm using v frag.

Striking strenght cannot be calculated as lifting strength.

Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...

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He pushed him, thats LS

Striking strenght cannot be calculated as lifting strength.

Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...

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Same as above.

 

[Viott]

The anime is cannon to the manga. Also wdym by using the speed of the glass to find the timeframe is wrong?

There was no glass flying around in the manga, so you can't use the speed of the glass to find the time period.

Already debunked this image.

Where?

Show me.

You seemingly don't understand why I'm using v frag.

You don't understand what I mean.

He pushed him, thats LS

I won't talk about that for now.

Same as above.

As I recall, he punched the punks and sent them flying.

Can you show me the video?

 

[Vzearr]

There was no glass flying around in the manga, so you can't use the speed of the glass to find the time period.

The anime is cannon though.

Where?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tokyo-revenger-revision-2.176941/post-6974767

You don't understand what I mean.

I do.

I won't talk about that for now.

As I recall, he punched the punks and sent them flying.

Can you show me the video?

I linked the feat in the blog.

 

[Shadow_x007x]

Ryusei saves Baji - 454 m/s (Supersonic)

You used the speed of a professional baseball player, while the character swinging the bat isn’t even a baseball player. Furthermore, when determining the timeframe, you should use the distance the baseball bat travels, not the distance between the two characters. This is because the bat does not move in a straight line—it is being swung.

Baji shatters a windshield - 3306 m/s (Hypersonic)

The glass shattering was not in the manga; this was something added in the anime. Moreover, there is no evidence that the glass shards traveled the same distance as the length of the metal pipe within a single frame. This is due to the scene cut, which prevents us from seeing the actual movement of the glass shards. (The steel pipe hit the glass in the second frame, but the glass fragments only shattered in the seventh frame.)

Izana saves Kakucho from bullets - 4536 m/s (Hypersonic+)

The distance measurement in the previous calculation was much better, as we had a top-down view that allowed us to see all the details. Therefore, we do not need to use a POV-based distance measurement.

Dude craters a wall - 8.31 Megajoules

We cannot conclude that this is V.fragmentation just because we do not see visible cracks.

[]Taiju smashes a bunch of dudes - 18374 kg (Class 25)[/]​

[]Taiju slams some Toman members - 32874 kg (Class 50)[/]​

Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...

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[Viott]

The anime is cannon though.

No, that's not how that works

A feat that is in the anime cannot be used if it is not in the manga.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tokyo-revenger-revision-2.176941/post-6974767

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Can you rewrite what you wrote in the previous topic?

I do.

You know when V.frag uses it? When the fragments are as small as pebbles.

This wall was cracked, most or all of the material was still there, the impact was not strong enough for the pieces to fall.

In addition, 2 CGM members do not participate in this calculation, making this calculation unusable as there are more CGM members who do not participate than those who do.

I linked the feat in the blog.

This won't open. What episode is this feat in? I forgot.

He pushed him, thats LS.

I just watched the video, and it only pushes 1 person and not the other two, so the mass should be only 62.5 kg.

 

[Vzearr]

The glass shattering was not in the manga; this was something added in the anime.

The anime is cannon so this point doesn't work.

Moreover, there is no evidence that the glass shards traveled the same distance as the length of the metal pipe within a single frame. This is due to the scene cut, which prevents us from seeing the actual movement of the glass shards. (The steel pipe hit the glass in the second frame, but the glass fragments only shattered in the seventh frame.)

There is literally no scene cut man what are you talking about

The distance measurement in the previous calculation was much better, as we had a top-down view that allowed us to see all the details. Therefore, we do not need to use a POV-based distance measurement.

I explained why it's wrong.

Post in thread 'Tokyo Revenger revision (2)'

Feb 8, 2025

Sigh

Do as you like but as long as the rule remains I don't see why Izana's feat should be upgraded especially when you didn't even mention why this version is better than the currently accepted one. Unless you bring up new arguments of course, which means you should know what has been discussed in the past.

Problems with the recalc:​

Lowballed distance moved:​

Izana moved the full distance, from his starting point, I know this as only one pair of footsteps can be heard during the run to the guy holding the gun, which implies Izana stood still...​

• Vzearr

We cannot conclude that this is V.fragmentation just because we do not see visible cracks.

I have different reasoning as to why it's v frag.

Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...

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Again, these are not strikes.

No, that's not how that works

A feat that is in the anime cannot be used if it is not in the manga.

That's not how it works, and it is in the manga.

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Post in thread 'Tokyo Revenger revision (2)'

Feb 8, 2025

Sigh

Do as you like but as long as the rule remains I don't see why Izana's feat should be upgraded especially when you didn't even mention why this version is better than the currently accepted one. Unless you bring up new arguments of course, which means you should know what has been discussed in the past.

Problems with the recalc:​

Lowballed distance moved:​

Izana moved the full distance, from his starting point, I know this as only one pair of footsteps can be heard during the run to the guy holding the gun, which implies Izana stood still...​

• Vzearr

Can you rewrite what you wrote in the previous topic?

You know when V.frag uses it? When the fragments are as small as pebbles.

We literally see pebbles.

This won't open. What episode is this feat in? I forgot.

I don't know.

I just watched the video, and it only pushes 1 person and not the other two, so the mass should be only 62.5 kg.

You didn't watch the video then lol.

 

[Nierre]

I've lost interest in trying to follow this back and forth so just remove my vote tbh and im going to unfollow. I know nothing about this verse and can't give a fair evaluation on a verse i dont know about and a verse i personally don't like on the wiki

 

[Viott]

That's not how it works, and it is in the manga.

In the manga, there was no flying glass around.

Post in thread 'Tokyo Revenger revision (2)'

Feb 8, 2025

Sigh

Do as you like but as long as the rule remains I don't see why Izana's feat should be upgraded especially when you didn't even mention why this version is better than the currently accepted one. Unless you bring up new arguments of course, which means you should know what has been discussed in the past.

Problems with the recalc:​

Lowballed distance moved:​

Izana moved the full distance, from his starting point, I know this as only one pair of footsteps can be heard during the run to the guy holding the gun, which implies Izana stood still...​

• Vzearr

Because of the inconsistency, LowBall should be used for safety purposes.

We literally see pebbles.

Just a few.

You didn't watch the video then lol.

You didn't watch the video, go watch it.

When he pushes a thug, he accelerates his arm and hits two other thugs.

 

[Dinozxd]

Just to clear the "Baji windshield feat was an anime only scene so it can't be used to scale" argument, Ken Wakui supervised the first season of the anime according to this source, which should make the windshield feat canon.