That was so messy of Oda to do right before break week
Which statement?
Thank you Oda for finally putting an end to that! But if this is leading to Yamato forming her own crew with Ulti and Page One, that would be real interesting tbh.
Scopper and Rayleigh being = to Roger
Bro decided to plant seeds of chaos to enjoy on his break lolThat was so messy of Oda to do right before break week
To be fair, I doubt WW can take out her and Page One at the same time, he probably jumped them, captured them, and put them in seastone cuffs.And Who's Who about to kill Ulti? The same Ulti that so many people thought was the strongest Tobiroppo just because of her durability and endurance feats?
Bro... Come on...
He says it in terms of popularity/legacy not power or strength
Just stop... He literally was
like ain't no way
That would be a likely interpretation. The initial spoilers seemed to imply otherwise, but the second ones lean toward that.
Was he? I recall him holding his own and being comparable, idk if he was notably superior. But hey, I haven't read Sabaody in a year or so, so who knows?Just stop... He literally was
Did you just erase everything you know and follow what Twitter users are saying or something?
The Oni Pirates?And Who's Who about to kill Ulti? The same Ulti that so many people thought was the strongest Tobiroppo just because of her durability and endurance feats?
Roger is THE pirate king, it is likely that it isnt that.
We know for a fact they didn't have equal popularity or legacy (ig legacy is more subjective) but the strawhats didn't even know abt gaban, and roger's clout was so deep he started an entire era by dying.
I didn't specifically only say popularity... Both being an equal figure to Roger isn't about strength but legacy and such
Notice how it was way before and not during the statements of when they were talking about strength, when saying there was one more like Rayleigh who was stronger than the rest
This is 100% in terms of legacy or something along that line or equal importance in the crew
, I think at this point you either just hate Roger or you just want to stir up drama because ain't no way your soo quick to attack Roger when he's been hyped up by everything and everyone even by kaido
how? I see nothing implying strength in the brief spoilers text
He was only stalling him and also overpowering at times, was also not even paying attention to Kizaru while fighting (I mean they literally didn't even fight when the strawhats disappeared if I remember correctly)
Saying Gaban came close to Roger in terms of legacy or importance gotta be the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life and even that has to be "downplaying Roger" when he is the most influential character in this entire seriesThis is 100% in terms of legacy or something along that line or equal importance in the crew
Tempest this coming from you is lowkey disappointing
The same Kaido who gaban implied he has been inferior to in this chapter
Too bad that's literally what it says...
In Google translate, 立役者 = key player
Okay Mr. Translation helperI can see TCB being on their usual bs with their translations
insane slander
You're better off arguing that Oimo and Kashi's words aren't credible because there's seriously no way to think they were not referring to strength.Tempest this coming from you is lowkey disappointing
Yes, the man raising a kid would want to travel to Wano while it was under the rule of Kaido and Orochi
logic really went out of the window huh
ExcusesYes, the man raising a kid would want to travel to Wano while it was under the rule of Kaido and Orochi
how the f are you soo sure when that word literally don't exist and isn't even in the same sentence...?
Literally read the sentences they spoke before that statement. They literally introduced Gaban as an exceptionally strong pirate on the crew like Rayleigh and told a story about a time where he showcased his strength.
It's almost as if...
you got it bro
If it was talking about strength it would've already been stated in the "sentences before"
I shit you not you just posted a translation of Oimo calling Gaban Rayleigh's rival. Are you being fr?
Yee because the sentence is connected and is right after Gaban's story about his strength
Wrong. Oimo finished the story and then described Gaban's strength by comparing him to Rayleigh and Roger.
Shiryu > Kuzan I guess.Rayleigh is stronger than him, the same way Zoro is stronger than Sanji and are rivals.
this already been discussed... But yes, if Aokiji was officially in blackbeard's crew.
not listening to someone that keeps on lying, It's simply a waste of time to debate against me, you know this... Unless you're debating simply because you wanna make his justifaction being equal in strength to Roger, there's absolutely no reason for you to try a lie and convince me from gaban being equal to Roger
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but from Oda
Kuzan was not properly introduced as part of Blackbeard's crew. In the same way, Gaban was barely even a character in-story at the time. If you really believe that Oda made that color spread and answered that question the SBS expecting readers to draw a connection to Kuzan and Gaban as well then I don't know what to say.
I have not spoken a single lie. Don't challenge my integrity I have no reason to do that.
If you want to say that you'd like to wait for more showings to put him on high levels then that's fair but you can't expect people to sit here and act like the manga wasn't referring to his power the entire damn chapter.You would need WAY more proof to convince me my guy
And it wasn't with that statement which I've explained why
Well you have... Even if by mistake, because right after Gaban's strength story, they talk about him being here on elbaf.. Not on him being equal to Rayleigh and Roger in strength
