Regeneration Mid/High Godly questions

[Berga14]

1) Character B has several fundamental aspects but some are more fundamental than others.
Regenerating from complete erasure of body, soul and the less fundamental aspect is enought for High godly? The others more fundamental are fine.
Example:

• Character A erases completly character B up to his concept.
• Character B has also his place in the story as fundamental aspect which is deeper than his concept.
• Character B regenerate his concept, soul and body.

2) Is Mid or High godly regenerating from complete erasure of body + soul when the soul is also the conceptual self of the character?
So basicaly:
soul = fundamental aspect needed for High Godly

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

1) Character B has several fundamental aspects but some are more fundamental than others.
Regenerating from complete erasure of body, soul and the less fundamental aspect is enought for High godly? The others more fundamental are fine.
Example:

• Character A erases completly character B up to his concept.
• Character B has also his place in the story as fundamental aspect which is deeper than his concept.
• Character B regenerate his concept, soul and body.

Would still be high godly

2) Is Mid or High godly regenerating from complete erasure of body + soul when the soul is also the conceptual self of the character?
So basicaly:
soul = fundamental aspect needed for High Godly

If the soul is a type 2 or type 1 concept, then it will be high godly. If it is a type 3 concept, then no, it will not be high godly.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

1) Character B has several fundamental aspects but some are more fundamental than others.
Regenerating from complete erasure of body, soul and the less fundamental aspect is enought for High godly? The others more fundamental are fine.
Example:

• Character A erases completly character B up to his concept.
• Character B has also his place in the story as fundamental aspect which is deeper than his concept.
• Character B regenerate his concept, soul and body.

2) Is Mid or High godly regenerating from complete erasure of body + soul when the soul is also the conceptual self of the character?
So basicaly:
soul = fundamental aspect needed for High Godly

Per the regeneration page, the hierarchy of fundamentaI aspects do not matter, what matters is the amount of unique and different ones.

High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after the erasure of body, mind, soul, and at least one other fundamental aspect of a character's existence.

 

[Berga14]

Bump!

 

[Theglassman12]

1: It would be high godly specific to his concept, the others would need evidence.

2: If the soul is indeed treated as a concept and is something fundamental to reality and not just the individual in question, then it can be high godly

 

[Berga14]

1: It would be high godly specific to his concept, the others would need evidence.

2: If the soul is indeed treated as a concept and is something fundamental to reality and not just the individual in question, then it can be high godly

About point 2:
There is an additional more fundamental spect that isn't erased. But the soul is still the concept (type 1/2) and it gets erased and regenerated.
Something changes or it becames like point 1?

 

[Theglassman12]

That would mean the High godly is tied to whatever the soul is labeled as, same as before with other high godly characters where if they only have one aspect regenerating, we don’t assume the other 3 are regenerating as well.

 

[Berga14]

That would mean the High godly is tied to whatever the soul is labeled as, same as before with other high godly characters where if they only have one aspect regenerating, we don’t assume the other 3 are regenerating as well.

Thanks!

 

[Theglassman12]

You’re welcome, but remember the entire body and the soul/concept would still need to be erased and not just the soul/concept, otherwise they wouldn’t get the godly regeneration

 

[Berga14]

You’re welcome, but remember the entire body and the soul/concept would still need to be erased and not just the soul/concept, otherwise they wouldn’t get the godly regeneration

Yep, only thing that doesn't get erased is the additional and more fundamental aspect.

 

[Bobsican]

Worth noting that if they regenerate from the more fundamental aspect (rather than that being something that simply wasn't removed by body and soul erasure, with the character recovering independently of it), that'd fall more so as type 8 immortality on an at least Mid-Godly scale.

 

[Berga14]

Worth noting that if they regenerate from the more fundamental aspect

?

that'd fall more so as type 8 immortality on an at least Mid-Godly scale.

You basically just sayd that all regenerations except HG should be changed to immo 8...
Anyway, sayd characters already have immo type 8 thanks to that additional aspect but that doesn't stop them to get regeneration as an ability.

 

[Bobsican]

Some characters just recover from erasure without relying on another aspect sustaining them back, hence why.

 

[Berga14]

Some characters just recover from erasure without relying on another aspect sustaining them back, hence why.

Only HG character that get all their fundamental aspects erased do that.
Relying on something is not a problem for regeneration IF what is happening is regeneration and not a "resurrection"(or akin abilities)

 

[Bobsican]

As long that is clarified on the pages when indexed as this isn't something too intuitive to expect per-say.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

2: If the soul is indeed treated as a concept and is something fundamental to reality and not just the individual in question, then it can be high godly

Btw, can it be such that the physicaI body has its own info type 2 aspect separate from the info type 2 of the souI?

In such a case, if the physicaI body is destroyed on an info type 2 IeveI and someone regenerates from that, wouId that stiII be HGR, or wouId the souI be needed to be destroyed as weII for it to be considered HGR?

 

[Theglassman12]

Everything needs to be nuked, not partially, everything given the whole point of high godly would be that everything of their existence including that fundamental part is gone or wiped out.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Everything needs to be nuked, not partially, everything given the whole point of high godly would be that everything of their existence including that fundamental part is gone or wiped out.

Does the order matter?

Let’s say there is another fundamental aspect that takes place of one of the normal things.

Like this

Body-> mind->fundamental aspect ->soul

Would just regenerating the fundamental aspect and not the soul still count? Since the soul in this case is just an additional fundamental aspect “different “ from a normal soul.


Trying on this thread

HGR Is Back Baby

Let's keep the introductions short. This thread is gonna be about High Godly Regeneration for TenSura. However, unlike the ones prior, it does not have anything to do with the Heart Core. Rather, I'll be introducing another fundamental separate from Mind and Soul. That is, the Astral Body. What...

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[Theglassman12]

If it’s something specific to their existence and not their entire existence being erased or destroyed, then it wouldn’t count for high godly. The order doesn’t really matter so long as the end result is their entire existence is erased.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

If it’s something specific to their existence and not their entire existence being erased or destroyed, then it wouldn’t count for high godly. The order doesn’t really matter so long as the end result is their entire existence is erased.

Can you explain what you mean by being specific to their existence?

Also are you saying that something more fundamental than their existence cannot exist?

For example.

Body mind soul and concept are erased. But beyond all of that is something more fundamental than all of that.would that not count as high godly for beings who have that erased but still have an additional aspect.


For example In solo leveling after all aspects of existence are erased you still exist with your true soul which is responsible for your deeper nonexistent self.

->soul,mind,body,concept erased. (Existence)
->true soul is the same except it is for your nonexistent self.

Would you need to regen from true soul erasure for high godly regen? Or just regular aspects are enough.

Also can you respond to the thread whenever you are free?

 

[Theglassman12]

If you nuked someone's soul and that's all that you destroyed, and they reformed their soul while the rest of their body is fine, it wouldn't count for any godly regen there since the rest of their body is still intact. I never said that it cannot exist, I said that it needs to be shown or implied their fundamental aspect alongside the rest of their body got destroyed or erased.

That's not a disqualification for high godly if another aspect still exists, that just means they only have conceptual high godly regen.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

If you nuked someone's soul and that's all that you destroyed, and they reformed their soul while the rest of their body is fine, it wouldn't count for any godly regen there since the rest of their body is still intact. I never said that it cannot exist, I said that it needs to be shown or implied their fundamental aspect alongside the rest of their body got destroyed or erased.

That's not a disqualification for high godly if another aspect still exists, that just means they only have conceptual high godly regen.

i have a question.

If the soul is conceptual, is regenerating from destruction of the mind and physical body alone mid godly Regen?

Since the soul in this case is actually conceptual instead