Tricky the Clown vs Elizabeth

[Peppersalt43]

ALTERNATE TITLE: CLOWNS OF COLUMBIA​

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I recently finished watching a playthrough of Bioshock Infinite. It is indeed as bad as people say it is but that's not the important part here. The important part is, it motivated me to look at their profiles. I've seen Elizabeth before, I knew she has some Tier 2 shit up her sleeves. But she also has the range to boot which is really really good here. She is also 8-C and in Tricky's range. You know what that means?

I have someone in his AP value that can deal with his avatars

AND THEN HE BECOMES OUTERVERSAL!!! RAAAH!!1!

If this gets removed one day I'll either just restrict her higher AP stuff or have Booker do the fighting. But for now, we finally have someone that can probably deal with Tricky.

EDIT: Well, we're doing that now

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Spoiler: Story Below

In an attempt to figure out and possibly stop the rifts appearing through the multiverse, attempts were made to apprehend or at the very least bring in those suspect of causing them. It was an early stage and with the kill team's relative infancy, it took a while for it to get on their feet. This was one of such cases, beginning in a simple stream where a man will die to stop the horrors his very existence will bring upon those who ushered him. The day was bright, the birds were singing, the air was cool and all in all, it was a perfect da-

"Elizabeth," a voice suddenly spoke out, prompting Elizabeth to look behind herself to see a familiar figure standing right there.

"You're not a counterpart. What are you?!" Elizabeth pointed out, not recognizing a person in her life who resembled or played a role similar to Makima.
"I'm here to deal with a threat, I'm part of a kill team. You've got two choices. Abandon this pointless crusade and join us in our attempts to save everything you know," she explained, her tone unchanging even as her requests grew darker.

"Or refuse, and I will bring in a creature to destroy everything you know." Without any knowledge on this person, Elizabeth was left uncertain on what to choose. The things she had just learned of in these past few minutes were incredible and yet, is it all that there is? There were infinite doors after all, and infinite possibilities to go along with it. What were the chances that a grand equalizer was hidden among them, ready to jump out and punish callous girls like her. Before she could make a decision, she felt a hand on her shoulder, prompting her to look away for a moment.

"We went through a lot to get here. What's one more fight gonna do?" Booker asked, earning a smile from Elizabeth.
"Your choice. I do wonder how much it'll take for him to see my way," Makima replied, vanishing peacefully as a gust of wind reduced her to dust as she was blown away.

Said peace was not to last.

In an instant, the very sky began to redden as error messages appeared all over the place. Instinctively, Elizabeth countered with her own tears, leaving the world ridden with red and monochrome. And in the middle of it all a clown floated, its eyes glowing red and its mouth wide open as it shouted in rage.

It was going to be one hell of a hurdle.

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• Speed equalized
• Place Located in: Wounded Knee

• Starting range: 30 meters
• Elizabeth has prior knowledge
• Everything above 8-C is restricted
• Regular Tricky used
• Win via anything!!
• The Lamb : 0
• The Clown : 0
• Incon : 0

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VS

 

[Comiphorous]

Following before the clown’s ascension to 1-A

 

[Peppersalt43]

Following before the clown’s ascension to 1-A

Y'know what, lets do this quickly this time

Elizabeth's tears straight up have Multiversal range so she can very much just bring Tricky's main bodies to her and kill him that way. Prior knowledge would get her to do that immediately. Plus her tears would allow her to summon her own army of robots and even people to fight for her.

 

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Y'know what, lets do this quickly this time

Elizabeth's tears straight up have Multiversal range so she can very much just bring Tricky's main bodies to her and kill him that way. Prior knowledge would get her to do that immediately. Plus her tears would allow her to summon her own army of robots and even people to fight for her.

Why does she have Multiversal range instead of Low multi range for merging two universes?

either way, yeah that gives her the range both main bodies to her. does she have anyway to kill them both? they both have Mid regeneration, along with their army of avatars which will destroy the enviroment to open portals back to Hell.

The larger nevada version likes to use LS, which he has the advantage in. whats the chances he gets his hands on her?

 

[Peppersalt43]

either way, yeah that gives her the range both main bodies to her. does she have anyway to kill them both? they both have Mid regeneration, along with their army of avatars which will destroy the environment to open portals back to Hell.

Probably her freezing plasmids. They're cold enough to cause people to shatter when hit which should deal with the freezing. The stuff she can summon also includes explosive ammo such as RPGs and grenade launchers

 

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Probably her freezing plasmids. They're cold enough to cause people to shatter when hit which should deal with the freezing. The stuff she can summon also includes explosive ammo such as RPGs and grenade launchers

Can she do it to both of them at the same time? or alternatively do it to his entire army at the same time so another avatar doesn't grab the halo and become the main one? They can effectively do this hot potato game forever until they can get a good hit on Elizabeth.

They're about even in AP and Durability (one could argue tricky might have a slight advantage), with Tricky going down a large scaling chain above 0.26 tons and Elizabeth scaling to 0.3

 

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Can she do it to both of them at the same time? or alternatively do it to his entire army at the same time so another avatar doesn't grab the halo and become the main one?

Yeah. Old Man Winter has AoE and y'know, explosives

 

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Yeah. Old Man Winter has AoE and y'know, explosives

The profile says a small radius, which im assuming means not the entire army. so one of the avatars can just grab the halo and become the main one and continue to try and kill Elizabeth.

 

[Peppersalt43]

The profile says a small radius, which im assuming means not the entire army. so one of the avatars can just grab the halo and become the main one and continue to try and kill Elizabeth.

Huh... Just in case is it because of them always being surrounded by avatars and stuff which is why they both have to be killed in quick succession? Because the thing I basically said is

so she can very much just bring Tricky's main bodies to her and kill him that way

So no worries of trying to get through the army or something. Unless I'm missing that something

 

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Huh... Just in case is it because of them always being surrounded by avatars and stuff which is why they both have to be killed in quick succession? Because the thing I basically said is

Both are true forms and both need to die at the same time to stay dead, the issue is he has immortality type 2 that allows him to survive as a puddle of blood for some time. he'd still be alive long enough to replace himself with an avatar if he's blown into pieces. The army is a threat because they all have this level of immortality and are all candidates to be the true form once they get their hand on the halo, and can even telekinetically pull it to avatars if they can't get it.

 

[Peppersalt43]

Both are true forms and both need to die at the same time to stay dead, the issue is he has immortality type 2 that allows him to survive as a puddle of blood for some time. he'd still be alive long enough to replace himself with an avatar if he's blown into pieces. The army is a threat because they all have this level of immortality and are all candidates to be the true form once they get their hand on the halo, and can even telekinetically pull it to avatars if they can't get it.

Ah, now that makes more sense

Can she just bring the halos with her through tears? Does the army also have the same low-multiversal travel capabilities?

 

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Can she just bring the halos with her through tears? Does the army also have the same low-multiversal travel capabilities?

The army should have the same traveling abilities as the main two, but if they don't, the main two can open portals for them to travel through, so they could chase her either way.

she doesn't know, but if she does get her hands on it, she'll likely accidentally leave herself open to getting jumped by Tricky since she'll be getting herself royally shocked by the energy, similarly to what happened to hank when he touched it.

 

[Peppersalt43]

she doesn't know, but if she does get her hands on it, she'll likely accidentally leave herself open to getting jumped by Tricky since she'll be getting herself royally shocked by the energy, similarly to what happened to hank when he touched it.

Technically she doesn't have to touch it. She can just bring everything in an area to a whole new reality like she does several times. She gets way better at it by the end BTW



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Also prior knowledge should keep her from making that mistake

 

[Comiphorous]

Technically she doesn't have to touch it. She can just bring everything in an area to a whole new reality like she does several times. She gets way better at it by the end BTW



33:53, 36:30, 1:13:36

Also prior knowledge should keep her from making that mistake

Even if she keeps playing this game of keep away with Tricky, she has very few options if they decide to go after her (considering the halo isn't something he needs to pull off any of the shit he does. him not having it just removes one thing from his arsenal he doesn't even start with)

if they find it's too costly to keep running for the halo, they could just go and kill her first, which is a problem when she can't put Tricky down even if he doesn't have the halo.

 

[Peppersalt43]

if they find it's too costly to keep running for the halo, they could just go and kill her first, which is a problem when she can't put Tricky down even if he doesn't have the halo.

You're right, this is indeed a problem. I recalled he doesn't have Fire Resistance so just to make sure, can Tricky survive being reduced to ash?

 

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You're right, this is indeed a problem. I recalled he doesn't have Fire Resistance so just to make sure, can Tricky survive being reduced to ash?

As of right now he does not have a resistance to fire (even though he should. one of his true forms are literally on fire), so she could get him with that if all else fails. it'd just be an issue of either one dying and replacing the other over and over again. she'd have to hit both at the same time and guard the halo from any of them getting it to repeat the cycle.

 

[Peppersalt43]

she'd have to hit both at the same time

OK so, we have discussed that several times in thread. It is something she can feasibly do

Both are true forms and both need to die at the same time to stay dead, the issue is he has immortality type 2 that allows him to survive as a puddle of blood for some time. he'd still be alive long enough to replace himself with an avatar if he's blown into pieces. The army is a threat because they all have this level of immortality and are all candidates to be the true form once they get their hand on the halo, and can even telekinetically pull it to avatars if they can't get it.

The issue is currently this where even getting shattered to pieces isn't enough to get him to die. Hence the ash question and whether or not that's enough

 

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The issue is currently this where even getting shattered to pieces isn't enough to get him to die. Hence the ash question and whether or not that's enough

Entirely depends on whether the wiki considers being turned to ash worse than being reduced to a puddle of blood, or comparable in the slightest. I wouldn't really know.

being reduced to a puddle of blood is Tricky's best(?) immortality 2 feat, so anything past that could pretty much kill him.

 

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Entirely depends on whether the wiki considers being turned to ash worse than being reduced to a puddle of blood, or comparable in the slightest. I wouldn't really know.

being reduced to a puddle of blood is Tricky's best(?) immortality 2 feat, so anything past that could pretty much kill him.

In the Regeneration page, growing back from ash is Mid-High while growing from blood is Low-High. So there's that

Regeneration

Regeneration, often referred to as a healing factor, is the ability to passively heal oneself from wounds at an accelerated rate, with many characters proving capable of regenerating from wounds that would be lethal to normal humans. It has several different levels that range in potency from...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

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If this gets removed one day I'll either just restrict her higher AP stuff or have Booker do the fighting. But for now, we finally have someone that can probably deal with Tricky.

Well, we're doing this now

 

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