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Bang (Silver Fang)
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Garfiel, arc 7
both are tier 7A
Speed is equalized
SBA
starting distance is 30m
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Garfiel, arc 7
both are tier 7A
Speed is equalized
SBA
starting distance is 30m
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The old dog vs The new cat
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punching his enemies to kingdom cum
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Does he have anything else? That won't really be effective against Bang due to his Martial Arts.
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kicking his enemies to kingdom cum
adapting to his enemies to punch them to kingdom cum
growing in AP/speed to punch his enemies to kingdom cum
He is also pretty skilled in combat and martial arts himself (avg ReZero Matchup Experience)
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Bang can defend against a barrage durability negating shockwaves that are powerful enough to oneshot him via turning his bones to powder for minutes at a time. Unless Garfiel can somehow grow that much before Bang's own AP and LS advantage messes him up, he'd need more than just cqc to win.
Bang is the same guy who can outskill most keys of Garou in direct combat so even if the gap isn't big, I really don't doubt Bang's superiority in this regard.
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So, the AP difference between the two is:
Garfiel scales to above 205.4 Megatons
While Bang scales to 315.12 Megatons, I think?
For the other stats, pretty sure Garfiel takes stamina due to his Regen, so a long fight would be horrible for Bang.
For Powers, while Bang attack reflection seems problematic at first, after some eschanges of blows Garfiel would be able to adapt against It, he is pretty smart.
Which leaves skill to talk about, but I gonna do later.
Trought I have to say, I not seeing how Bang can counter Garfield Regen, he pretty much would need to do a attack that the ends the fight Quick, which I don't think have one that would work on Garfiel without him dodging or just regenarating for It.
Garfiel scales to above 205.4 Megatons
While Bang scales to 315.12 Megatons, I think?
For the other stats, pretty sure Garfiel takes stamina due to his Regen, so a long fight would be horrible for Bang.
For Powers, while Bang attack reflection seems problematic at first, after some eschanges of blows Garfiel would be able to adapt against It, he is pretty smart.
Which leaves skill to talk about, but I gonna do later.
Trought I have to say, I not seeing how Bang can counter Garfield Regen, he pretty much would need to do a attack that the ends the fight Quick, which I don't think have one that would work on Garfiel without him dodging or just regenarating for It.
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Garou, someone who is a master at attack reflection and has insane adaptation abilities himself could not hold a candle against Bang's own technique on two different occasions. What do you mean by "adapt against it?" it's not that simple.
Bang Exploding Heart Release Fist is a very large AP amp that also sends shockwaves into the target's body.
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Why did I even bother writing a Standard Tactics section for him
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same Bang that needed bomb to fight Garou as an equal? Garfiel is already severely above in AP
his scaling chain goes smth like:
Rowan<Emilia/Louis<Olbart mistifying Louis by accidentally moving his arm too fast<Garfiel being stronger than Olbart and still growing
Garfiel explicitly is resistant to that
- Resistance to Vibration Manipulation (He withstood a shockwave Kafma's vibration-produced organ, which uses frequencies to turn its victims into a bloody red mist)
Garfiel just needs to outlast Bang long enough to either outgrow him or win because of his insane stamina
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This never happened.
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True, I felt like i was wrong on this as well so i went back to read it but yeah pretty much the same thing is likely to happen as their second fight with Bang slowly building up damage while Garfiel starts learning new techniques while simultaneously healing himself up leading to Bang losing due to his stamina
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I'm not sure Bang has any way to truly put Garfiel down.
Garfiel has some good regen, can constantly buff himself while on the ground and can adapt to his opponent's attacks (especially now since they're relative in strength). He could even catch Bang off-guard with a partial transformation or with his earth manipulation.
It's gonna be a tough match, but imo Garf would eventually win after Bang runs out of steam.
Garfiel has some good regen, can constantly buff himself while on the ground and can adapt to his opponent's attacks (especially now since they're relative in strength). He could even catch Bang off-guard with a partial transformation or with his earth manipulation.
It's gonna be a tough match, but imo Garf would eventually win after Bang runs out of steam.
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Bang would not get hit a single time so I'm not sure what you mean by "building up damage." Garfiel's best stamina feat is being able to do squats for 3 days. Bang has superior stamina than the likes of Flashy Flash, who underwent many years harsh ninja training as a child, which included non-stop bloodlusted fighting for 3 days. If it's a battle of outlasting, Garfiel is more likely to fall first, especially considering he'd be wasting all of his energy throwing swings while all Bang has to do to redirect is move his wrist.
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There's no proof that this would ever happen.
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Bang can redirect his opponents' attacks back at them with twice their original power, further enhancing them by adding his own strength. His technique is described as a perfect blend of offense and defense, allowing him to redirect strikes and counterattack at the same time. In cqc, an attack from Garfiel would result in him getting reflected and hit with a barrage of strikes, each carrying 725.92 megatons of energy. Attempting to block Bang's attacks wouldn't work either as the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist completely bypasses defenses. If Garfiel's regeneration becomes problematic, Bang's massive lifting strength advantage would make it possible for him to decapitate Garfiel as he's done in the past against other opponents with healing abilities. Given Garfiel only has Low-Mid regeneration, this would kill him.
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Looking at any scans from their fight, if the shockwaves of the attack he has to reflect is too much, he takes damage. Garfiel definitely will definitely be able to do that considering his rapid growth
whats the point of writing about stamina on someone's page if nobody's gonna read it:
Superhuman (He accidentally did continuous squats for an entire week without tiring) and he stopped not because he was tired but because Subaru and the gang forcefully brought him back. He has no known limits to his stamina and he basically went on a similar rampage to Garou fighting against much stronger enemies without stopping
Why would Bang be superior to Flashy flash?
Based on what exactly? Garfiel replenishes his energy constantly.
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When did it happen?
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Both have great stamina but Garfiel's stamina is superior based on their feats.
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- Power Mimicry (He unintentionally copied Olbart's force-redirection technique)
- Attack Reflection (He can use a technique to redirect force through and out of one's body, either into the ground or back at an opponent)
- Vibration Manipulation (He can send shockwaves throughout the target of his strikes, destroying even their insides)
the link just straight up doesnt work.
Anyways, Most of Bang's fighting style revolves around him reflecting attacks which is striking strength not LS
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Can he though? Copying Bang's martial art requires Energy Manipulation. It uses the flow of energy, understanding the flow of energy and knowledge of raging rivers and replicating the energy in your hands.He would just copy it like he did to Olbart
- Power Mimicry (He unintentionally copied Olbart's force-redirection technique<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Garfiel_Tinsel#cite_note-Arc_8,_Chapter_54-38">[38]</a>)
- Attack Reflection (He can use a technique to redirect force through and out of one's body,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Garfiel_Tinsel#cite_note-39">[39]</a> either into the ground or back at an opponent<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Garfiel_Tinsel#cite_note-Arc_7,_Chapter_95-32">[32]</a>)
- Vibration Manipulation (He can send shockwaves throughout the target of his strikes,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Garfiel_Tinsel#cite_note-40">[40]</a> destroying even their insides)
It's not because of the output being higher but the martial art Garou uses affects with shockwaves.
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Bang has massively superior LS compared to Garfiel, Superior AP, His martial art allows him to redirect, counter and break through the defenses of others. Is Garfiel's resistance even the same or enough for it, he resisted but he still took damage from it, so how far his resistance goes? It's important to consider it because It's Bang who has superior AP here.
Garfiel has superior stamina, quite good and fast regen, crazy willpower that he refuses to backdown no matter the damage or situation and a fast AD.
I think Bang wins though, his advantage from the start should let him win.
Garfiel has superior stamina, quite good and fast regen, crazy willpower that he refuses to backdown no matter the damage or situation and a fast AD.
I think Bang wins though, his advantage from the start should let him win.
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He fights instinctively and copies techniques sub consciously, Also you are capping about energy manipulation. Even if its true its not on the profile
He can do the same thing
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doesnt matter as long as grappling isnt involved (even then Garfiel can get upto class E if pushed to his limits)
false, Garfiel is arguably far higher and will only grow in AP
Okay? Garfiel has already dealt with that when he was fighting Olbart
a resistance is a resistance? You cant layer this type either as far as i am aware
this is true
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I'm not capping about it though.
He starts it after Arc 8. After his growth in both strength and personality in the same arc. Before that, he never even gave it a thought before.
Or Blocking throwing or any other thing that requires LS. Bang could just crush him as well.
I can't find his Class E stat?
Not in the value though? It is accepted as higher than that value but has no value for it no?
How did he do it?
There is, as far as i know. You resist a shockwave that would normally kill kill a person, but you suffer lethal damage. It doesn't mean he can tank every shockwave based attack? Because they can have different purposes. Like one of the attack's shockwaves are to attack your bones, but the other shockwave attack is a type that attacks organs, when you resist against one of them, it doesn't mean you can resist against both. Or you resist against a very weak shockwave attack that is capable of breaking a 3-4 bone. that would give you resistance but wouldn't mean you can resist against a stronger shockwave capable of destroying all your bones and organs.
Might be wrong about it though.
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