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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

Guys, I found a guidebook that puts Way Big as Ben's most powerful form (ignoring Alien X, ofc), this'd put him above Eatle, making him Tier 4.

What do you think?
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Guys, I found a guidebook that puts Way Big as Ben's most powerful form (ignoring Alien X, ofc), this'd put him above Eatle, making him Tier 4.

What do you think?
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/762720939045027871/1305317955734605874/Screenshot_2024-01-09-12-32-08-09_dc00545bd3b8828f033a02ac25b2d36d.jpg?ex=67329794&is=67314614&hm=e505893f282f876226ca13326b5d55ceaa4ca31ed1c8ced205a575fd4c953f28&
Isn't that OS?
 
Great, so either the verse becomes Tier 4 or Way Big becomes an outlier to everyone.
 
I've taken care of everything, and the only issue left is with grammar. I'm not very proficient in English, so I can't tell exactly where corrections need to be made. Therefore, I would like the profile to be accepted and created first, and then my friends can help fix the grammar. What do you think? Do these scans, feats and described seem okay and reasonable to you?
The grammar seems okay.

Which thread approved Planet-level humans?
 
The grammar seems okay.

Which thread approved Planet-level humans?
Do you have an opinion on Way Big being above Eatle? As said here.
Guys, I found a guidebook that puts Way Big as Ben's most powerful form (ignoring Alien X, ofc), this'd put him above Eatle, making him Tier 4.

What do you think?
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/762720939045027871/1305317955734605874/Screenshot_2024-01-09-12-32-08-09_dc00545bd3b8828f033a02ac25b2d36d.jpg?ex=67329794&is=67314614&hm=e505893f282f876226ca13326b5d55ceaa4ca31ed1c8ced205a575fd4c953f28&
 
Which thread approved Planet-level humans?
Ben is Planet-level in his human form. Can't we do the same with clear enough feats?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ben_Tennyson_(Original)#:~:text=Planet level+ physically (Could restrain and harm Simian, who, as an Arachnachimp, should be comparable to Spidermonkey and that could harm him.

iirc, Ben should have been upgraded to that level from this thread.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-high-6-a-upgrade.164939/

I mean, the beginning of a planet-level human.
 
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The grammar seems okay.

Which thread approved Planet-level humans?
Ben is Planet-level in his human form. Can't we do the same with clear enough feats?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ben_Tennyson_(Original)#:~:text=Planet level+ physically (Could restrain and harm Simian, who, as an Arachnachimp, should be comparable to Spidermonkey and that could harm him.

iirc, Ben should have been upgraded to that level from this thread.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-high-6-a-upgrade.164939/

I mean, the beginning of a planet-level human.
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Can somebody explain to me why the fact that the way beyond in ben 10 making the universes look finite despite being infinite was disqualified as qualtive superiorty?
 
Anyone got arguments for anyone's mind hax or mind hax resistances having layers?
 
I ask because I may make a thread but idk if comics are accepted here, basically someone in a Ben 10 comic mind controls a town but 10 year old, human Ben is able to resist it, that Ben fails to resist Big Chill's predators hypnosis, and then in Omniverse Ben obviously resists that. There's also Wildvine overcoming Sublimino's hypnosis and Nanomech resisting the Decoy Queen's mind control
 
I ask because I may make a thread but idk if comics are accepted here, basically someone in a Ben 10 comic mind controls a town but 10 year old, human Ben is able to resist it, that Ben fails to resist Big Chill's predators hypnosis, and then in Omniverse Ben obviously resists that. There's also Wildvine overcoming Sublimino's hypnosis and Nanomech resisting the Decoy Queen's mind control
I don't know if it is considered canon, but let me tell you my opinion. If it does not contradict the cartoon, it should be considered canon. Do these sections you mentioned support the sections in the cartoon?
 
How would you rank Ben10 aliens by power? Top 10
1. Alien X (no need to elaborate)
2. Atomix (superior to Malgax, who stated to be superior to all of Ben's aliens).
3. Way Big (stated by guidebooks to be Ben's most powerful form by the timed of Ultimate Alien)
5. Eatle.
6. Humungousaur (Max Size) (at his base size he's as strong as Four Arms, should be way superior via size altération).
7. Diamondhead (superior to Armodrillo and Slamworm, who were comparable to Four Arms and Hsaur base form)
8 NRG (Was able to one shot fragments of Malware, which were capable of tanking blows from Hsaur)
9. Four Arms / Humubgousaur at his base (At least way superiors to Trombipulor, who was equal to Armodrillo)
10. Armodrillo.
 
I ask because I may make a thread but idk if comics are accepted here, basically someone in a Ben 10 comic mind controls a town but 10 year old, human Ben is able to resist it, that Ben fails to resist Big Chill's predators hypnosis, and then in Omniverse Ben obviously resists that. There's also Wildvine overcoming Sublimino's hypnosis and Nanomech resisting the Decoy Queen's mind control
I think they're accepted as secondary canon, so, if they don't go against the show, it can be used.

We even use some Action Packs in the Cosmology page.
 
Can't Swampfire Bloom make it to the list? According to a recent CRT, it was argued that he should be 5-A due to his feats against OV Kevin.
 
I excluded aliens that aren't naturally that strong and only reach the top 5 via Absorption, otherwise Feedback solos
I'd normally agree, since Feedback, Chromastone and Upchuck need a comparable source of energy to reach that level, but Eatle can go that high via just eating literally the ground, is a move so basic and easy to do that is practically gis base.
Also I don't really buy Eatle scaling to Ascalon
Really? Any particular reason? Since there's a lot of sources that put Vilgax (who Eatle was able to be on par with) above Ascalon.
 
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