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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Are you sure? Looking at the episode itself, the other Schutzstaffel while impressed by Uryu's performance, don't seem all that shocked by his power, and considering that Askin for example could turn Ichigo into a carpet, they should scale too
We'll have to see if Ichigo still gets turned into a carpet or not. I think they'll get rid of that scene, but I will not be surprised if Askin is buffed anyway.
 
I mostly find it strange how a lot of characters on their AP scaling are said to scale relative to Post-Unohana Kenpachi, but are still stuck at tier 6
 
Are you sure? Looking at the episode itself, the other Schutzstaffel while impressed by Uryu's performance, don't seem all that shocked by his power, and considering that Askin for example could turn Ichigo into a carpet, they should scale too
A heavy suppressed Shikai Ichigo who was just running around and did that with hax.

He should try that with HOS or True Bankai
 
Are you sure? Looking at the episode itself, the other Schutzstaffel while impressed by Uryu's performance, don't seem all that shocked by his power, and considering that Askin for example could turn Ichigo into a carpet, they should scale too
There are numerous reasons why they shouldn’t scale, I’ll save it for my stat revisions down the line tho.
 
Granted, it would be a little odd since Yhwach said that he was the only one who could handle Yamamoto's Bankai, but Yhwach probably wasn't referring to that form of Quilge.
Doesn’t seem reasonable.
It should include any form of any sternritter before auswahlen
At first I was worried about Yhwach’s statement too, but then I realized that the version of Quilge that absorbed Ayon should probably just be an exception to this statement tbh. Yhwach clearly went in with a plan to steal Yamamoto’s bankai beforehand, and I doubt he had any way of knowing that Ayon would he summoned, that he’d be that strong, and that Quilge would end up absorbing him. Ayon-Absorbed Quilge just falls outside the scope of that statement imo.
 
At first I was worried about Yhwach’s statement too, but then I realized that the version of Quilge that absorbed Ayon should probably just be an exception to this statement tbh. Yhwach clearly went in with a plan to steal Yamamoto’s bankai beforehand, and I doubt he had any way of knowing that Ayon would he summoned, that he’d be that strong, and that Quilge would end up absorbing him. Ayon-Absorbed Quilge just falls outside the scope of that statement imo.
There should be a massive difference between ichigo who quilgie scales to and the one managed to scratch yhwach.

Jugram's reaction clearly implies yamamoto is abnormally stronger.
Ayon absorbed quilgie still should be below pre auswahlen royal guards. Fake yhwach definitely is a top dog in that chain, since he likely copied more than 70% of yhwach's raw power.
 
Are people arguing that askin scales to TS ichigo?

As how things going on in anime, I think even that might be possible.. Though I'm still iffy about even uryu's scaling to TS ichigo. He managed to one shot a paralyzed shutara.
 
Ayon absorbed Quilge is just not below the Elite Sternritter

pre Auswahlen Askin <<< Kisuke < Voll Stern Dich Ayon Absorbed Quilge ~< FB Bankai Ichigo ~ enraged but fatigued FB Bankai Ichigo ~ Yhwach ~ Bankai Yama > Shikai Yama >>> CFYOW Byakuya >>> pre Auswahlen Gerard

Quilge with Ayon is just cracked
 
At first I was worried about Yhwach’s statement too, but then I realized that the version of Quilge that absorbed Ayon should probably just be an exception to this statement tbh. Yhwach clearly went in with a plan to steal Yamamoto’s bankai beforehand, and I doubt he had any way of knowing that Ayon would he summoned, that he’d be that strong, and that Quilge would end up absorbing him. Ayon-Absorbed Quilge just falls outside the scope of that statement imo.
So I went and checked, and Quilge straight up says that Ayon wasn’t in the report when he gets mauled. So that just confirms it.
 
Ayon absorbed Quilge is just not below the Elite Sternritter

pre Auswahlen Askin <<< Kisuke < Voll Stern Dich Ayon Absorbed Quilge ~< FB Bankai Ichigo ~ enraged but fatigued FB Bankai Ichigo ~ Yhwach ~ Bankai Yama > Shikai Yama >>> CFYOW Byakuya >>> pre Auswahlen Gerard

Quilge with Ayon is just cracked
Ichigo was already stronger than quilgie and should be lot stronger by the time he was trying hard to break jail.
Even stronger when he is enraged. We know about his massive power cliff. This is absolutely such situation.

Just can't get around such notion, that any other sternritter would scale to elite sterneritter regardless of power boost however they get.
eg. Quilgie's boost, that man eating loli's boost and the guy that killed sasakibe.
 
Ichigo was already stronger than quilgie and should be lot stronger by the time he was trying hard to break jail.
Even stronger when he is enraged.

Just can't get around such notion, that any other sternritter would scale to elite sterneritter regardless of power boost however they get.
eg. Quilgie's boost, that man eating loli's boost and the guy that killed sasakibe.
Yeah man Quilge totally got one shot by Ichigo’s Getsuga. Either way, his scaling above Kisuke refutes your claim anyway
 
Let's ask a more prudent question. What would be an inconsistency entailed by quilge > elites
We'll considering he's dead, I don't see anything that could count as an issue towards him specifically. Unless a statement was made by the author or someone in verse.
 
Yeah man Quilge totally got one shot by Ichigo’s Getsuga.
No, because he was inside jail when he was growing. And rage should give significant stats boost.
Either way, his scaling above Kisuke refutes your claim anyway
This is clearly not an example of scaling above. Wasn't he sliced in half by base grimjow? This feat at least comes close to define scaling above.
 
No, because he was inside jail when he was growing. And rage should give significant stats boost.
By how much?
This is clearly not an example of scaling above. Wasn't he sliced in half by base grimjow? This feat at least comes close to define scaling above.
Wasn't he weakened (giant hole in him), and then caught off guard by Grimmjow
 
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