Makima vs Junko Enoshima

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Makima vs Junko Enoshima (Controlling Monokuma)

• Location: Hope's Peak Academy
• Speed equalized
• Makima knows who Junko is, that she's the Ultimate Despair, and that she intends to instigate the worst tragedy in human history
• Makima starts just outside the building, while Junko is at the control room

 

[koopa3144]

• Makima knows who Junko is and that she's the Ultimate Despair

Question, does Makima also know that Junko is controlling Monokuma here?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Question, does Makima also know that Junko is controlling Monokuma here?

Yep

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Oddly good match.

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[Stillwinston]

Well despair gg is out the window for Junko here from the looks of it

 

[That_moron2]

Well despair gg is out the window for Junko here from the looks of it

Why would it be? Makima was brought to tears from a simple movie at one point.

 

[Stillwinston]

I say cause Makima resists madness manip, at the very least I'd assuming she'll know that Junko is trying to BS her

 

[ShionAH]

Makima was brought to tears from a simple movie at one point.

She is brought to tears ONLY from a simple movie, its a special case for movies rather than a weakness

 

[That_moron2]

She is brought to tears ONLY from a simple movie, its a special case for movies rather than a weakness

No? She didn't cry because it was a movie. She cried because of the contents of the movie.

 

[GunshyFever]

No? She didn't cry because it was a movie. She cried because of the contents of the movie.

Yet, an encounter with the Darkness Devil, who caused the majority of the cast to want to end their lives on the spot, was a walk in the park for Makima, at worst she hit a frownie face. Not only that, but she was also able to resist Cosmo's madness manipulation, which operates on a greater scale than the Darkness Devil's. The movie bringing Makima to tears was due to her inability to form meaningful relationships with anyone because she was used to being so far above everyone else. Nobody in the series was able to use her agenda against her. And that wouldn't change here.

 

[That_moron2]

Nobody in the series was able to use her agenda against her

Nobody in the series is Junko

 

[GunshyFever]

False

It doesn’t matter because Makima’s own agenda isn’t enough to make her suicidal, let alone something she resists altogether.

 

[That_moron2]

It doesn’t matter because Makima’s own agenda isn’t enough to make her suicidal, let alone something she resists altogether.

Neither are a lot of people's but that didn't stop them, and Makima doesn't resist Social Influencing

 

[GunshyFever]

She resists Madness Manipulation, which is the primary way Junko's ability functions or how it compels her opponents to kill themselves. The worst she can do is surprise Makima by making her feel saddened. Makima might then see her as valuable and place her under control or view her as a threat and destroy her internals.

 

[That_moron2]

She resists Madness Manipulation, which is the primary way Junko's ability functions or how it compels her opponents to kill themselves.

Junko's MM comes from SI not the other way around. Even if her despair doesn't work, Monokuma can easily rewire her brain

 

[Epiccheev]

Makima when Junko erases all Good movies and all that is left are B-grade movies with less than 80% on rotten tomatoes.

 

[GunshyFever]

Junko's MM comes from SI not the other way around. Even if her despair doesn't work, Monokuma can easily rewire her brain

If the SI is the source then Junko is either being put down or becoming Makima's asset the moment she makes Makima feel dispare. And rewiring her brain is not on option since Makima resists Mind Manip.

 

[That_moron2]

Makima resists Mind Manip.

She doesn't resist acupuncture

 

[GunshyFever]

She doesn't resist acupuncture

Makima shows absolutely no reaction to pain, acupuncture is just as useless.

 

[That_moron2]

Makima shows absolutely no reaction to pain, acupuncture is just as useless.

No reaction to pain doesn’t let you resist pressure points

 

[GunshyFever]

No reaction to pain doesn’t let you resist pressure points

That doesn't address that fact that it's still essentially useless and has no lasting effect.

 

[That_moron2]

That doesn't address that fact that it's still essentially useless and has no lasting effect.

It brainwashes Makima, she doesn't resist that form of mind manip. She also can't do shit about morality manipulation, and paralysis inducement

 

[GunshyFever]

It brainwashes Makima, she doesn't resist that form of mind manip.

Yes...yes she does. It's on her profile.

 

[GunshyFever]

morality manipulation, and paralysis inducement

Vice versa with Makima's mind control, Madness Manip, etc...

 

[That_moron2]

Yes...yes she does. It's on her profile.

She doesn't resist biological mind manip no

Vice versa with Makima's mind control, Madness Manip, etc...

True, I guess it depends on who uses their power first

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bump?

 

[Mickey1940]

Makima resists all of Junko's hax so all Junko can really do is hit Makima till she dies

...several millions of times

only issue for Makima is that she can't physically bust down the doors to Hope's Peak Academy cuz stronger characters like Sakura couldn't even remove the metal plates around the windows, much less the walls or main door

yeah now that I'm scrolling through Makima's page, does she even have any abilities or the AP necessary to break into Hope's Peak at all, especially with Monokuma on her ass equally immune to almost all of Makima's abilities due to being a robot and being over 2 times stronger, AND the fact that Junko has access to a literal army of Monokumas?

like it might take a while but unless Makima can activate the Death Ritual or smthn, I can't see her physically breaking into Hope's Peak without dying over and over. Either Junko stalls her out by beating her to a pulp millions of times, or Makima outlasts by forcing Junko to literally sleep and stop controlling Monokuma

like am I stupid? I legit don't see how Makima can even enter the building