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Ben 10: Update, Fixing and Additions part 4

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Characters Abilities​
Alien X and Chrono Navigator (NEE)​
Nonexistence Erasure
(Nature Type 1 - Aspect Type 5 [law & history])​
the <White Void> which is a dimension devoid of space-time, and is non-existent as anything in Space Beyond except universes is considered nonexistent:
Kevin: Where are we? There's nothing on my instruments.

Professor Paradox: Understandable. There's nothing outside, either. You see that faint glow in the distance?

Gwen Tennyson: A star?

Professor Paradox: Actually, it's the universe. We're in the space beyond.​
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So the dimensions/white voids that exist in Space Beyond are nothingness must be included as non-existent since it is nothingness. Also the Legerdomain is devoid of any laws where he made entirely of mana which has no laws, like law of paradox which makes timelines stable and whoever violates this law by fetching two copies of different timelines in a unified timeline makes the timeline unstable which causes the timeline will be broken, Alien X and Paradox with his machine (Chrono Navigator) should get Nonexistence Erasure due to being able to permanently destroy everything including realms of nothingness and Legerdomain.
So it should look somthing like this:
Paradox with Chrono Navigator:
Nonexistence Erasure (Nature Type 1; Aspect Types 5 [Other: Laws and History]; Can destroy all of existence including the <White Void> which is a dimension of nothingness devoid of space-time, <Legerdomain> which is a realm of magic devoid of any laws)
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Alien X:
Nonexistence Erasure (Nature Type 1; Aspect Types 5 [Other: Laws and History]; Alien X could one day destroy all of existence including the <White Void> which is a dimension of nothingness devoid of space-time, <Legerdomain> which is a realm of magic devoid of any laws)
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It's time for... Abilities layers!​
Mana Manipulation
BFR & Dimensional Travel - 1 layer​
We have this statement which states that mana unreachable by dimensional travel or teleportation like Esotericas

So should be the Legerdomain which is the realm of mana/magic has resistance to Dimensional Travel, Teleportation and BFR, but we see that Mana users can teleport to the Legerdomain using BFR, Teleportation and Dimensional Travel:
  1. Gwen and Kevin teleport to Legerdomain when they located him.
  2. Rook send Charmcaster to Legerdomain via mana spells.
  3. Charmcaster send Kevin's car to Legerdomain.
  4. It is mentioned that Mana users has much mana (like Gwen) to open a portal to Legerdomain.
So Mana users has 1 layers in Dimensional Travel, Teleportation and BFR.
Celestialsapiens and Paradox
BFR & Dimensional Travel - 2 layers​
We have this page accepted which states that Celestialsapien, Paradox and Chrono Navigator can travel to Forge of Creation:
Per Professor Paradox, the Forge of Creation is the source of the Universe's greatest power.[16] It's where ideas become real. It is where Celestialsapiens like Alien X are born. The Forge of Creation is out of sync with All time due to a Chronal Randomization Barrier set by Paradox. It is entirely unreachable/inaccessible by anything but the Map of infinity, the inhabitants of the Forge, and Paradox himself.
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It is stated that FOC are entirely unreachable/inaccessible by anything including mana users who have 1 layers in Dimensional Travel and BFR and since the Forge of Creation is too high for them to travel it this should make Forge of Creation has Resistance to Dimensional travel and BFR (2 layers) but stated that Paradox, Celestialsapiens and Chrono Navigator can teleport/open portal to Forge of Creation using BFR and Dimensional Travel:
  1. Paradox able to send Gwen, Kevin, and Ben to the Forge of Creation. Also can open portal to Forge of Creation.
  2. Alien X stated to be can teleport to Forge of Creation.
  3. Celestialsapiens able to open portal between Forge of Creation and Ben’s Universe.
So Celestialsapiens, Alien X, Paradox and Chrono Navigator has 2 layers in Dimensional Travel, Teleportation and BFR.
Professor Paradox
Extrasensory Perception & Enhanced Senses - 1 layer (At least 6-D, likely 25-D) ​
We have this page accepted which states that Gwen/Mana users can see and sensing the entire universe:
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the Chronal Randomization Barrier cannot be seen or sense from mana users like Gwen, which capable of sensing and see the entire universe, which means that Chronal Randomization Barrier has resistance to person's ability to sense or see him, but Paradox can sense and see the Chronal Randomization Barrier which should mean that Paradox has an Enhanced Senses and Extrasensory Perception (At least 6-D, likely 25-D) '1 Layers'

Paradox Additions & Hex​
Agree: @ActuallySpaceMan42 (No comment on NEE though), @Firestorm808
Disagree: @ActuallySpaceMan42 (Paradox: RW & MM), @Firestorm808 (TMN, Paradox: RW and MM)
Neutral:
 
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hmm sounds good I agree with everything except this:

Anodyte Physiology

Resistance to Space-Time Manipulation and Reality Warping: Anodites have no laws and therefore should be immune to law manipulation, including the paradox of contradiction, which causes a rupture of timelines/dimensions.
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By the way, I don't think the Anodites don't have laws, I think the one who doesn't have laws is the magic of the verse since it is said that the magic of the Ben 10 verse has no rules and I also don't think the Anodites are immune to the manipulation of the law, I think they just have resistance
 
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Disagree with BFR layers, FOC and stuff being unreachable is about the range not being enough rather than it literally not being affected
 
ShionAH said:
Disagree with BFR layers, FOC and stuff being unreachable is about the range not being enough rather than it literally not being affected
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Is not about range, FOC is literally unreachable because other characters' BFR and DT can't reach him due to him being protected from them as Gwen explained that they needed someone to teleport to FOC, which explained why she couldn't teleport to FOC. Even Paradox himself doesn't have a range that reaches the level of Hyperversal or even at least Complex Multiversal, but he is still able to reach FOC.
Range: Extended Melee Range; At most Hyperversal with the Chrono Navigator
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REX9097 said:
Is not about range, FOC is literally unreachable because other characters' BFR and DT can't reach him due to him being protected from them
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Proof that it is being protected rather than just being far away? You guys are arguing its way far away from the main cosmology in Alien Xs profile and then arguing it isnt far but just resistant to DT, literally contradicting yourself
REX9097 said:
Even Paradox himself doesn't have a range that reaches the level of Hyperversal or even at least Complex Multiversal, but he is still able to reach FOC.
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What?? Wtf does this mean
 
ShionAH said:
Proof that it is being protected rather than just being far away?
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Paradox says the FOC are hidden because he is surrounded by his Chronal Randomization Barrier
Paradox: That's because it's enclosed by a chronal randomization barrier.
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ShionAH said:
You guys are arguing its way far away from the main cosmology in Alien Xs profile and then arguing it isnt far but just resistant to DT, literally contradicting yourself
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No one said this, it only is said out of sync with all time and entirely unreachable/inaccessible by anything. At what point did I contradict myself?
ShionAH said:
What?? Wtf does this mean
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How is "FOC being unreachable about the range" and Paradox which was able to reach it thanks to the teleport doesn't even have Hyperversal range?
 
REX9097 said:
Superhuman stamina and at least Planetary Range via energy projection: Anodies are so powerful, she has enough energy to fill a world with an energy for many years.
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Just because she can fuel the planet with energy for years on end doesn't mean she herself has such range. Disagree with the range, although the stamina feat seems valid.
REX9097 said:
Resistance to Space-Time Manipulation and Reality Warping: Anodites lack a laws and should therefore be immune to manipulation of laws including the paradox of contradiction, which causing a ripping of timelines/dimensions.
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No. Without explicit statements or showcases of anodites being able to survive the ripping of timelines/dimensions, this just seems like reaching out of bounds. Disagree.
REX9097 said:
So should be the Legerdomain which is the realm of mana/magic has resistance to Dimensional Travel, Teleportation and BFR, but we see that Mana users can teleport to the Legerdomain using BFR, Teleportation and Dimensional Travel:
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This would at best be 1 layer.
REX9097 said:
It is stated that FOC are entirely unreachable/inaccessible by anything including mana users who have 2 layers in Dimensional Travel and BFR and since the Forge of Creation is too high for them to travel it this should make Forge of Creation has Resistance to Dimensional travel and BFR (2 layers) but stated that Paradox, Celestialsapiens and Chrono Navigator can teleport/open portal to Forge of Creation using BFR and Dimensional Travel:
  1. Paradox able to send Gwen, Kevin, and Ben to the Forge of Creation. Also can open portal to Forge of Creation.
  2. Alien X stated to be can teleport to Forge of Creation.
  3. Celestialsapiens able to open portal between Forge of Creation and Ben’s Universe.
So Celestialsapiens, Alien X, Paradox and Chrono Navigator has 3 layers in Dimensional Travel, Teleportation and BFR.
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I think we are contradicting ourselves. Isn't FOC supposed to be unreachable? The mana users can't access FOC simply because they lack the range in order to do so. Disagree.
REX9097 said:
We have this page accepted which states that Gwen/Mana users can see and sensing the entire universe:
the Chronal Randomization Barrier cannot be seen or sense from mana users like Gwen, which capable of sensing and see the entire universe, which means that Chronal Randomization Barrier has resistance to person's ability to sense or see him, but Paradox can sense and see the Chronal Randomization Barrier which should mean that Paradox has an Enhanced Senses and Extrasensory Perception (At least 6-D, likely 25-D) '2 Layers'
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Isn't FOC supposed to be the height of creation? Which means that mana users (whose powers work on a 25-D level) obviously can't sense something that is on a entirely different level than their own. This would give Professor Paradox Enhanced Senses and Extrasensory Perception on a 26-D level, though.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Very disingenuous to use these clips without context. They are referring to his ability to go back in time. Disagree.


Everything else seems fine, no comment on NEE though.
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If they're talking about how the only thing he needs is a snap of fingers, ls clearly that it means that he doesn't need to move at all.

It's Warp or an advance level of time manip.
 
GeneralSol16 said:
If they're talking about how the only thing he needs is a snap of fingers, ls clearly that it means that he doesn't need to move at all.

It's Warp or an advance level of time manip.
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They literally say after this, that they mean he should go back in time and stop stuff from happening.
 
Unless you have better evidence than that, then I disagree. It's a vague, statement with nothing else backing it.
 
Taking a statement of someone being able to snap their fingers to fix something and then using guesswork and assumptions to decide "how" and with what hax they would fix it is ridiculous.

Edit: Especially when the snap itself, is a character asking if he can do it.
 
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