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Ben 10 AP & LS Revision (Alien Force & Ultimate Alien)

The wiki is wrong, not only that planet was never stated to be Armordrillo's, but ever if it was, the perspective isn't enough to say it was retconned
You are suggesting that Slammoids and Talpaedans don't share the same native planet?
 
I am unsure.

@Reiner04 What are your thoughts on this matter?

Supposedly, the original planet was broken into small moon size pieces. One could say that this is what one of those pieces look like now.
 
I am unsure.

@Reiner04 What are your thoughts on this matter?

Supposedly, the original planet was broken into small moon size pieces. One could say that this is what one of those pieces look like now.
Yeah i had exactly same thought but regardless of everything, there is not much clarity if its the same talepadien's planet that was destroyed in long forgotten time, so i wouldn't treat it as retcon.
 
Yeah i had exactly same thought but regardless of everything, there is not much clarity if its the same talepadien's planet that was destroyed in long forgotten time, so i wouldn't treat it as retcon.
Okay.
Ah, I see.

To clarify, the Tick Feat Calc is for the total energy applied to the entire surface area of the Tick Body, which is 2.393e28 Joules, from 3.758e+23 J/m².

In the case of aliens able to damage fist size pieces of the shell, shouldn't this just mean that the energy of the punch is at least (3.758e+23 J/m² * surface area of attack)?

If an average fist surface area is 0.043 square meters. Let's assume an alien fist is at most 5x that with 0.215 m^2.

In turn, the minimum energy to break the shell with a punch is at least (3.758e+23 J/m² * 0.215) = 8.0797e+22 Joules.
@DarkDragonMedeus
@Reiner04

Per site standards, let's say a giant ball creature tanks an impact as it hits a planet.

A humanoid creature punches and does fist size damage to the shell. Do we scale the punch to the full impact energy or just the energy density used in the impact calc?
 
Ah, I see.

To clarify, the Tick Feat Calc is for the total energy applied to the entire surface area of the Tick Body, which is 2.393e28 Joules, from 3.758e+23 J/m².

In the case of aliens able to damage fist size pieces of the shell, shouldn't this just mean that the energy of the punch is at least (3.758e+23 J/m² * surface area of attack)?

If an average fist surface area is 0.043 square meters. Let's assume an alien fist is at most 5x that with 0.215 m^2.

In turn, the minimum energy to break the shell with a punch is at least (3.758e+23 J/m² * 0.215) = 8.0797e+22 Joules.
Big tick calc seems to have been revised by @Hellformer
 
The core question is if small area punches scale to the full impact. IE: Death from a thousand cuts.
As far as I know, if a character withstands the entirety of the explosion "part" they are exposed to, they scale to it. Therefore, Four Arms damaging the Great Tick's shell should scale to that durability entirely. Not to mention, if the Big Tick could be damaged by less energy than what it was exposed to during the planet's explosion, it would not have survived it.
 
The entire explosion cannot harm the great one while fourarms' punches can slightly crack the shell, which means "potency" of his punches > explosion.
And the new big tick calc isn't much different than the old one, except I'm not limiting the durability to surface area of the big tick for some reason, which will be discussed in a different CRT.
 
As far as I know, if a character withstands the entirety of the explosion "part" they are exposed to, they scale to it. Therefore, Four Arms damaging the Great Tick's shell should scale to that durability entirely. Not to mention, if the Big Tick could be damaged by less energy than what it was exposed to during the planet's explosion, it would not have survived it.
I suppose it's fine then.
 
With the new calc or the old one?
As far as I know, if a character withstands the entirety of the explosion "part" they are exposed to, they scale to it. Therefore, Four Arms damaging the Great Tick's shell should scale to that durability entirely. Not to mention, if the Big Tick could be damaged by less energy than what it was exposed to during the planet's explosion, it would not have survived it.
Same question to you.
 
You mean to ask my opinion on new calc? Or my opinion on the feat based off the old calc?
I mean if the CRT is accepted but would you prefer using the old calc or new one (which argues that big tick's legs extends throughout the earth and its core therefore scales to the entire explosion)
 
I would prefer new one since i find its more accurate.
Alright then correct me if I'm wrong:
  • OS/OVF: 118.28 Ronnatons, at most 104.226 GigaFoe
  • AF pre S3: At least 118.28 Ronnatons, at most 104.226 GigaFoe
  • AF S3 onwards-UA/OV: 1.04226 TeraFoe (Same values due to no significant AP gap)
 
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Alright then correct me if I'm wrong:
  • OS/OVF: 118.28 Ronnatons, at most 947.5 GigaFoe
  • AF pre S3: At least 118.28 Ronnatons, at most 947.5 GigaFoe
  • AF S3 onwards-UA/OV: 9.475 TeraFoe (Same values due to no significant AP gap)
Needs more staff input
 
Alright then correct me if I'm wrong:
  • OS/OVF: 118.28 Ronnatons, at most 947.5 GigaFoe
  • AF pre S3: At least 118.28 Ronnatons, at most 947.5 GigaFoe
  • AF S3 onwards-UA/OV: 9.475 TeraFoe (Same values due to no significant AP gap)
You forgot AFS3 key
 
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