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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

ByAsura said:
That's why I put that she was on par with Iron Man in this storyline.

Sure. IIRC, he had an amp for that SS one, though, but it might've become permanent.
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You mean when he analysed the power cosmic and amped itself? That sounds like reactive evolution or accelerated development for the hammer not really an amp
 
Excellence616 said:
I have been gathering scans for Heralds (still in progress tho). I want 5-Bs and Base Heralds to have as many Planet feats since they all scale to one Hulk feat.

Also, High 3-As would be 5-B up to High 3-A at peak and for those who consistently restrain themselves or those with vary power would just have varies, usually 5-B, High 3-A at peak


Mind you, there might get be upgrades and downgrades since the 5-B and 3-C might go higher or 3-C might go lower. But that all depends on what feats we choose since when am done it would all comes down to a discussion.


Then after that, i would tier Heralds based on Low, Mid and High which would ultimately lead to upgrading and downgrading of some heralds. then we can focus on upgrading the High 3-As
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Well if your still looking I got a bunch of Thor feats lying around
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Did anything ever come of this or was it just quietly cancelled? It's been nearly three years and there hasn't been any Miracle Man teases since.
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The teaser for the next Ultimates issues gives some feats of the arrows that this new Hawkeye is packing.
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AcidSilver said:
Did anything ever come of this or was it just quietly cancelled? It's been nearly three years and there hasn't been any Miracle Man teases since.
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Sentry already kinda replaced Miracleman's whole existence, doubt you can make anything with MM that you couldn't already with Sentry. And Marvel already kinda has no idea what to do with Sentry lol.

The only Comic character that Marvel acquired from Gaiman that still sees use, is probably Angela
 
How are you guys doing?

I'm currently on a break from the Wiki and Discord (hence why I haven't responded to anything in 2-3 weeks), and I'll probably return next week or the week after, but I just wanted to share one of my achievements!

For my Marvel Physiologies page (all the links are dead because Imgur's just like that), I've finally finished reading all the main appearances I needed for my demon physiology entry!
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That means all 2,000 appearances, 300 minor appearances, 800 mentions, and 90 invocations! God I feel stoked, though there's a lot more information I'm gonna be pursuing so I'm not even close to done (saving guidebook appearances for the end too, moreover). I think I'm most happy with having secured every Immortality Type for demons besides maybe 5 and 8 (unless "different laws of life and death" is enough for 5), and possibly AE2. Logging out again now, but just wanted to share that.
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
How are you guys doing?

I'm currently on a break from the Wiki and Discord (hence why I haven't responded to anything in 2-3 weeks), and I'll probably return next week or the week after, but I just wanted to share one of my achievements!

For my Marvel Physiologies page (all the links are dead because Imgur's just like that), I've finally finished reading all the main appearances I needed for my demon physiology entry!
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That means all 2,000 appearances, 300 minor appearances, 800 mentions, and 90 invocations! God I feel stoked, though there's a lot more information I'm gonna be pursuing so I'm not even close to done (saving guidebook appearances for the end too, moreover). I think I'm most happy with having secured every Immortality Type for demons besides maybe 5 and 8 (unless "different laws of life and death" is enough for 5), and possibly AE2. Logging out again now, but just wanted to share that.
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I'm curious of what is going to be the difference between the physiology of gods and elder gods.
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
How are you guys doing?

I'm currently on a break from the Wiki and Discord (hence why I haven't responded to anything in 2-3 weeks), and I'll probably return next week or the week after, but I just wanted to share one of my achievements!
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Missed you man, how have you been?
ProfectusInfinity said:
For my Marvel Physiologies page (all the links are dead because Imgur's just like that), I've finally finished reading all the main appearances I needed for my demon physiology entry!
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That means all 2,000 appearances, 300 minor appearances, 800 mentions, and 90 invocations! God I feel stoked, though there's a lot more information I'm gonna be pursuing so I'm not even close to done (saving guidebook appearances for the end too, moreover). I think I'm most happy with having secured every Immortality Type for demons besides maybe 5 and 8 (unless "different laws of life and death" is enough for 5), and possibly AE2. Logging out again now, but just wanted to share that.
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You absolute LEGEND!
 
Tomfer said:
I'm curious of what is going to be the difference between the physiology of gods and elder gods.
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The Elder Gods of Earth are a pretty specific race of Gods. I'm gonna challenge myself by seeing how much of their lore I can recall (ignore this if you don't care).

-All the Elder Gods of Earth were spawned 9 Billion (I think?) years ago on Earth by an omnipotent being called the Demiurge Primordial. Their most prominent members were Gaea, Oshtur, Set, and Chthon.

-Oshtur left earth at some point to discover magic and/or explore the higher dimensions of the Universe.

-Chthon himself explored dark magic and became the first Black Magic sorcerer in existence.

-Set killed and ate something to became the world's first murderer, then all the Elder Gods of Earth followed after him by killing and eating each other and other life forms, degenerating into demons in the process.

-Gaea was the one Elder God who didn't degenerate (and Oshtur since she had left), so she called the Demiurge Primordial for help, then mated with him to give birth to the God Eater Demogorge, who slaughtered all the demonic Elder Gods. Demogorge mutated in the process, then when he was done, released all the corrupt energies and flew into the sun.

-While Demogorge was killing Gods, Chthon wrote a tome holding his dark magic knowledge and essence called the Darkhold. He fled to a dimension he made called K'Lay (also called the Flickering Realms), and left the Darkhold behind to maintain influence on earth.

-Seeing Chthon do this, Set left his own influence behind by spawning countless reptilian and demonic races, before fleeing into his dimension the Serpent's Sea. Some other minor Elder Gods of Earth escaped too.

-Oshtur came back, and seeing what happened to Earth and the Elder Gods, she established her own dimension called the Astral Plane close to earth to serve as a conduit for sorcerers and others, and maintain her own influence.

-Gaea decided to establish her own dimension called Avalon, then became the mother Goddess for most pantheons of earth (Gaea for Greek mythos, Izanami for Shintoism, etc.). She also created a powerful magical artifact called the Ebon Rose.

-At some point, Set started siphoning power away from the reptiles of the earth like Dinosaurs. In response to this, Gaea encouraged mammals to replaces reptiles as the dominant species. Enraged, Set absorbed enough energy to manifest on earth and end the mammals, which led to Demogorge showing up immediately. Rather than fleeing this time, Set sprouted several heads and challenged him to a fight. By the end, Set got his ass kicked and banished back to his own dimension, then the dinosaurs went extinct.

-Oshtur shed a tear for a blind boy, and that tear came to life in the form of Agamotto. She raised Agamotto for a bit then left him behind, which led to Agamotto mastering all forms of magic in a spiritual journey to find Oshtur, during which he created the 3 Eyes of Agamotto. He eventually found her, and became the first Sorcerer Supreme. Oshtur also stumbled upon Hoggoth, a Tiger God who was the last survivor of a clan of Many-Angled Ones/Great Old Ones. The spirits of his deceased bretheren were known as "the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth." Agamotto ascended to become a mystic principality, then joined Oshtur and Hoggoth to form the Vishanti. Oshtur and Agamotto also worked together to forge a powerful magical artifact called the Sword of Bone.

-During the Pre-Cataclysmic age of Earth (before Atlantis sunk), a skeleton wizard called Thulsa Doom started the Darkholders: cults dedicated to collecting pages of the Darkhold and learning Chthon's magic. He eventually got killed by King Kull (a character from the Conan the Barbarian mythos), after which Varnae became his successor, and underwent a ritual to become the first Vampire.

-At the same time, a similar cult dedicated to Set arose, and they created a powerful magical artifact called the Serpent Crown.

-During the Pre-Cataclysmic age, Atlantis was the largest nation, while the second largest was Lemuria. Lemuria was ruled by Deviants, who enslaved humanity en masse and became too populous for the Eternals to deal with, so they called over the Celestials. The Celestials observed the state of earth, and chose to flood everything in an event called the Great Cataclysm. Atlantis sunk, Lemuria and the Deviants collapsed beyond repair, the Serpent crown was lost, and the Darkholders were crippled, their scriptures lost.

-Eventually, a Celtic Sorceress named Morgan Le Fay led a small faction of Darkholders into creating a fully-functioning copy of the Darkhold. They used it to summon Chthon, but the ritual went wrong and Chthon's spirit got trapped in a mountain. Morgan's lover at the time betrayed the cult by comprimising the Darkhold and forcing it to go missing, after which Morgan strangled him to death.

-Chthon experimented returning to earth through a noble man from medieval Europe who held a copy of the Darkhold. That man's wife was infertile, so he gave into the Darkhold's corruption and struck a deal with Chthon to gain a daughter. However, Chthon exploited this to turn their daughter Victoria Montessi into his vessel. Victoria rejected her father's Darkhold cult teachings, and started opposing Darkholders (fun fact, Victoria was Marvel's first lesbian character). Eventually in modern times, she learned her true nature as Chthon's vessel, and different cultists charged after her to ensure Chthon's birth, but Doctor Strange was able to quickly interfere and prevent Chthon's return. Nowadays, I think Victoria's a member of the Midnight Suns or something?

-The High Evolutionary experimented on Romani siblings Wanda and Pietro near Chthon's prison mountain to raise them as artificial mutants. During that time, Chthon's essence transferred to Wanda, and she became his vessel, while he became the source of her Chaos magic.

So pretty much,

4 prominent surviving Elder Gods of Earth: Gaea, Oshtur, Chthon, and Set.

Their 4 Dimensions (The First Four Inner Planes): Avalon, the Astral Plane, the Flickering Realms/K'lay, and the Serpent's Sea.

The Four Cornerstones of Creation (Their 4 Magical Artifacts): The Ebon Rose, the Sword of Bone, the Darkhold, and the Serpent Crown.

Shit, I spent way too much time on this.
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Aight someone tell me

Whereabouts would Agatha Harkness scale?
Shes below Scarlet Witch but still comparable? She was able to send Franklin Richards to sleep?
High 1-B?
 
Jinx666 said:
Aight someone tell me

Whereabouts would Agatha Harkness scale?
Shes below Scarlet Witch but still comparable? She was able to send Franklin Richards to sleep?
High 1-B?
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I think she has some scaling to Valtorr, who's comparable to Cyttorak via W.O.G.

I believe her familiar also fought on par with Mephisto off-screen.

I have her on my list of planned profiles.
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
Earth-616 has a 2-A infinite multiverse within itself, so as long as there's no evidence that these "timelines" are numbered alternate earths, we'd default that to 2-A.

It'd be supergenius either way, I believe.
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ObberGobb said:
He's talking about infinite variation of time branching out from a central timeline, and mentions alternate Earths. So in that case, would it be Low 1-A? Here is the panel for context, it is specifically the last image. This is part of the same feat I mentioned a while back with Eric Masterson and Dargo Ktor, so it would theoretically apply to both Zarrko and Thor's peak. It included it as part of my Yggdrasil/Thor revision thread (still going but on hold), but I didn't know what tier it would be.
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Is this still a Low 1-A or 2-A feat?
 
Excellence616 said:
Is this still a Low 1-A or 2-A feat?
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Hm... without mentions of alternate earth numbers or context to believe a multiversal feat exists on an Asbtract scale, I'd still consider it 2-A. See these scans to get an idea of what I'm saying.
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It's stated that there are infinite variant earths which all share 3 spatial dimensions, and we know this is in reference to Earth-616's 2-A multiverse since these infinite earths are described as lower planes that the mystic dimensions like Asgard and Hell. So in other words, alternate earths being depicted as vaguely "divergent" or similar to earth wouldn't necessarily make them 1-A Universes, since even the Low 2-C Universes diverge like that. (Btw, don't take most of the dimensionality statements in this scan too seriously since they state that the Negative Zone is 3-D).
 
ObberGobb said:
But don't timeline divergence inherently mean alternate numbered Earth's?
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Going off our 2-A justifications in the current cosmology blog:
An important topic to comment on when talking about higher dimensions in Marvel is Subspace, or Hyperspace, a separate continuum usually utilized for Faster-Than-Light travel,[35] but which is in truth the region existing between different realities,[36] acting as a "non-realm" connecting the Earth's universe to a potentially infinite number of spacetime continuums.[37] It is usually used to access the Negative Zone, an alternate[38] spacetime[39] existing as the antimatter mirror of the regular universe,[40] and in fact the Negative Zone has been referred to as contained within Hyperspace[41] before, naturally implying the Earth's universe is, too.
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The subspace, whose contents are fully contained within the Universe, is stated to be a gateway to infinite alternate realities.
 
A combined strike from two copies of Thor empowered a machine capable of destroying infinite timelines, meaning a 2-A feat, but most heralds haven't demonstrated anywhere near that scale of power.
 
ObberGobb said:
People have posted Low 2-C Herald feats on here before. Is anyone aware of other 2-A feats?
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That One feat on Hercules profile of Him lifting the weight of the heavens of which is a God realm. If that feat falls between 2-A and Low 1-C then we can have Immeasurable Strength also for Heralds.

Off topic, some High 1-Bs are Infinite LS, others are Immeasurable.
 
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Okay. Feel free to revise the pages with this type of inaccurate speed statistics then. 🙏
 
i am new here so idk some rules, but when i see (hulk green scar) profile to high 1-B should it be low 1-A ? because of killing mindless ones which are low 1-A right now and destroying dark dimension or should i create new content revision for this

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Dreamer23421 said:
i am new here
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Welcome 🤗
Dreamer23421 said:
so idk some rules, but when i see (hulk green scar) profile to high 1-B should it be low 1-A ? because of killing mindless ones which are low 1-A right now and destroying dark dimension or should i create new content revision for this

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  1. The Mindless Ones vary between themselves. They have their weakest, their strongest and their peak in the Dark Dimension.
  2. He was threat to the Dark Dimension as stated by Umar. He didn't actually destroy the Dimension
 
Dreamer23421 said:
i am new here so idk some rules, but when i see (hulk green scar) profile to high 1-B should it be low 1-A ? because of killing mindless ones which are low 1-A right now and destroying dark dimension or should i create new content revision for this

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Don't worry.. something huge is coming. Hulk could get Low 1-A if this thread pass through since Onslaught (with Franklin Richards, Nate and Erik powers) > Kid Franklin > Celestials > Odin and Zeus = Mephisto in his realm.

iirc, there was one feat of Mindless Hulk where he battled Nightmare and rendered his entire Nightmare Dimension causing Nightmares to cease.
 
Excellence616 said:
Don't worry.. something huge is coming. Hulk could get Low 1-A if this thread pass through since Onslaught (with Franklin Richards, Nate and Erik powers) > Kid Franklin > Celestials > Odin and Zeus = Mephisto in his realm.

iirc, there was one feat of Mindless Hulk where he battled Nightmare and rendered his entire Nightmare Dimension causing Nightmares to cease.
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oh yes i'm reading current hulk storyline, i believe current hulk could scale to high 1-A in #4 man-thing said that swamp witch was treat to entire nexus of all realities
 
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