The Helldivers vs Adeptus Astartes (0-0-0)

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

The Helldivers (Helldivers) VS. Adeptus Astartes (Warhammer 40k)

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Two factions of the finest warriors from the most totalitarians regimes in sci-fi, giving their entire lives to fight the enemy of their empires, for what they think its right.
The Helldivers who fight and spread democracy throughout the galaxy and The Space Marines who fight in the name of the Emperor. Who'll emerge victorious in this confrontation.

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Fight Rules:

• 4 Helldivers take on 1 Veteran Space Marine.
• Helldivers are kitted with anti-bot weaponry and armor.
• The Space Marine is equipped with Mk VII power armor.
• Space Marine arsenal includes standard issued Bolter rifle, Plasma pistol, A chainsword and addition of grenades.
• Speed is Equalized
• Fight takes place in a battlefield

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The Helldivers: 0
Space Marines: 0
Inconclusive: 0

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What's the AP difference between them?

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

What's the AP difference between them?

I am not really sure because AP can vary drastically and I haven't gotten an exact measure for base astartes but they hover around 8-C to High 8-C and potentially 8-B.

Helldivers can tank chargers which exude 0.8722566767877629 Tons of force.

So they're both around 8-C but Space Marines scale well above and have weapons that are capable of ignoring durability.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wait, hold on, can't the Space Marine see them in slow-mo due to his perception speed? That should give him time to think up a strategy to deal with these guys a lot easier.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Wait, hold on, can't the Space Marine see them in slow-mo due to his perception speed? That should give him time to think up a strategy to deal with these guys a lot easier.

The FTL perception speed only works for certain marines so OP would have to specify what kind of marine they are, veteran, new guy, etc.

What's the AP difference between them?

So they're both around 8-C but Space Marines scale well above and have weapons that are capable of ignoring durability.

Astartes only scale to baselines as of right now cause they originally scaled to lightning but that was getting downgraded so now they're just baseline so there's a 3.48902670715x difference in AP. 4 dudes, each with weapons over 3.5x stronger. The Astartes is ain't winning this

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The FTL perception speed only works for certain marines so OP would have to specify what kind of marine they are, veteran, new guy, etc.



Astartes only scale to baselines as of right now cause they originally scaled to lightning but that was getting downgraded so now they're just baseline so there's a 3.48902670715x difference in AP. 4 dudes, each with weapons over 3.5x stronger. The Astartes is ain't winning this

OOF, well at least that's figured out.

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

Astartes only scale to baselines as of right now cause they originally scaled to lightning but that was getting downgraded so now they're just baseline so there's a 3.48902670715x difference in AP. 4 dudes, each with weapons over 3.5x stronger. The Astartes is ain't winning this

Huh. Thanks for elaborating and I really thought the Marine had the AP advantage but I guess not.

Because I was using the Retributors veteran (or captain was it?), I guess I am going to make the Space Marine into a veteran to make this fight fair somewhat.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Huh. Thanks for elaborating and I really thought the Marine had the AP advantage but I guess not.

Because I was using the Retributors veteran (or captain was it?), I guess I am going to make the Space Marine into a veteran to make this fight fair somewhat.

Well I’m hoping to upgrade their AP now that space marine 2 is out and there’s some good feats in there but as of right now, yeah they have an AP disadvantage

Well if that’s the case then I still feel like the helldivers will take it. Despite the perception speed the AP difference is still significant plus with how speed equalizing works their weapon speed is still going to be insanely higher. The Astartes may be able to see the weapons firing but they won’t be fast enough to dodge it I don’t think