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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

UchihaSlayer96 said:
Read what Arc said in the above post carefully.

Basically, I never said Uzuhiko was hard capped or limited to the 5-B value we're using.
However, it is the highest quantifiable value we can objectively slap onto the technique without using headcanon or faulty scaling methods.
Logically speaking, if Uzuhiko was actually a 4-C/Low 2-C/2-C/Whatever-C attack, it would make negative logical sense for all of the descriptions we have for the ability highlighting the centrifugal force and orbital rotations as if they would matter in the slightest. This is one of those moments where we have to use common sense to arrive at what the story is very clearly trying to tell us.
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The Fact that it's blatantly durability negation and has been LIKE that since the day TBV #3 Leaks dropped, rotations are highlighted BECAUSE it's durability negation, the rotative forces HELP with the spinning force
The moment they outright stated the power of this jutsu is that of a standard rasengan (THE AP IS NOT UPGRADED!!!) equipped with extra forces that deal damage that isn't physical but psychological damage cleared every possible assumption regarding it being an anti feat


To say this jutsu upgrades or caps tiers regarding AP is just straight up false
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Before Boruto is over I bet we get another broken Jutsu invented by Tobirama for one of the new gen.
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NeoKingOfLight said:
@MinatoSparkle
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I see my reputation precedes me
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「楔」による転生を繰り返し「チャクラの実」を喰らい続けた末に「神」となった者。現代にはシバイの「体」のみが残っている。
A being who repeatedly reincarnated through the use of "Karma" and continuously consumed "Chakra Fruits," eventually becoming a "god." In the present day, only Shibai's "body" remains.

Yeeeah this seems like taking significant creative liberties, it does not say he turned into the Ten Tails at all
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I see my reputation precedes me
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「楔」による転生を繰り返し「チャクラの実」を喰らい続けた末に「神」となった者。現代にはシバイの「体」のみが残っている。
A being who repeatedly reincarnated through the use of "Karma" and continuously consumed "Chakra Fruits," eventually becoming a "god." In the present day, only Shibai's "body" remains.

Yeeeah this seems like taking significant creative liberties, it does not say he turned into the Ten Tails at all
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Yep.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I see my reputation precedes me
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「楔」による転生を繰り返し「チャクラの実」を喰らい続けた末に「神」となった者。現代にはシバイの「体」のみが残っている。
A being who repeatedly reincarnated through the use of "Karma" and continuously consumed "Chakra Fruits," eventually becoming a "god." In the present day, only Shibai's "body" remains.

Yeeeah this seems like taking significant creative liberties, it does not say he turned into the Ten Tails at all
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MASSIVE understatement.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
I never said Isshiki's data. I said Isshiki's Karma (White Karma doesn't have his data).

It was later attributed to WK.

Claw grimes separated the chunks. The evolution was stated to be caused by WK.
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The white karma does have Isshiki's data. Boruto stated that. I'm fairly certain Jura is modeled after Isshiki.

The White Karma itself was attributed to Code being "special". It's not all Isshiki.

The claw mark is Code's unique input into the Juubi.
Put things together. These Shinjus are spamming claw marks means the claw marks are part of their biology.
 
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Kayzz said:
The white karma does have Isshiki's data. Boruto stated that.
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It came from Isshiki. But it can't convert Code into Isshiki. Not to mention this shouldn't even matter since the claw grime will only turn into Shinju if they turn a host into tree. There is no way of doing that to a dead Otsutsuki.
Kayzz said:
The White Karma itself was attributed to Code being "special". It's not all Isshiki.
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Chapter 6 attributes the sentience to WK which has Otsutsuki essence. Nothing about the claw marks being the thing that grants them sentience. Your argument doesn't stand because Claw marks aren't dependent on WK which is stated to be the reason for their sentience.
The claw mark is Code's unique input into the Juubi.
Put things together. These Shinjus are spamming claw marks means the claw marks are part of their biology
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There is nothing to put together my dude. Sentience = WK. WK =/= Claw marks.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
It came from Isshiki. But it can't convert Code into Isshiki. Not to mention this shouldn't even matter since the claw grime will only turn into Shinju if they turn a host into tree. There is no way of doing that to a dead Otsutsuki.
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Yes. However, Isshiki's essence is in there, just dormant.
HelloThere1089 said:
Chapter 6 attributes the sentience to WK which has Otsutsuki essence. Nothing about the claw marks being the thing that grants them sentience. Your argument doesn't stand because Claw marks aren't dependent on WK which is stated to be the reason for their sentience.


There is nothing to put together my dude. Sentience = WK. WK =/= Claw marks.
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Well, there's nothing set in stone yet.

However, Boruto stated "I don't know how or why but there's a strong possibility Code's chakra is affecting them through the Claw Grimes (Claw Marks was the correct translation).
Boruto goes on to say "He's got a karma from Isshiki which is a lump of Otsutsuki essence, so it having some effect wouldn't be a surprise"

From those statements, Boruto attributed the sentience to Code's chakra more than the white karma. We now know Code's chakra has been influenced by Shibai's cells which awakened Claw Marks in him.
 
Kayzz said:
Yes. However, Isshiki's essence is in there, just dormant.

Well, there's nothing set in stone yet.

However, Boruto stated "I don't know how or why but there's a strong possibility Code's chakra is affecting them through the Claw Grimes (Claw Marks was the correct translation).
Boruto goes on to say "He's got a karma from Isshiki which is a lump of Otsutsuki essence, so it having some effect wouldn't be a surprise"
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Code's chakra is only relevant here because of Isshiki's essence. That is pretty clear cut from Boruto's dialogue.
Kayzz said:
From those statements, Boruto attributed the sentience to Code's chakra more than the white karma. We now know Code's chakra has been influenced by Shibai's cells which awakened Claw Marks in him.
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Boruto clearly separated Code's chakra and claw grimes. If claw grimes were the reason, then he wouldn't have stated that claw grimes were a medium. He goes on to clarify that Code's chakra essentially means Isshiki's essence.

Also a weird nitpick here. Otsutsuki essence isn't required for sentience. Even in the 4GNW, the ten tail pieces that separated grew their own sentience. The thing that makes the grimes special is their ability to grow an ego when they become a shinju. And that is clearly because of Isshiki's essence.
 
I want to ask. If a character can use their sixth sense ability to detect and sense something that is illusory or intangible, would that character gain Extrasensory Perception ?, Or is there a special tier for this ability ??

I found a great feat for Gaara, so I need to confirm it first, and that's why I need your answer. Thank you.
 
Luxxy_Ethereal said:
I want to ask. If a character can use their sixth sense ability to detect and sense something that is illusory or intangible, would that character gain Extrasensory Perception ?, Or is there a special tier for this ability ??

I found a great feat for Gaara, so I need to confirm it first, and that's why I need your answer. Thank you.
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It could be Extrasensory Perception or Resistance to Illusions depending on the context. It could also be other things, it really depends.
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Do those trapped in Shinju trees still physically age or do the trees put their hosts in stasis?
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No idea. But it's likely. I just went with the baseline. Sasuke can be assumed to be in a comatose state rn at the very least. So mentally he definitely isn't aging. But if the theories about his arm getting healed are right (me included), he could just be not aging in general.
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Butt Watt About He's Aye Doe
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I suspect he's gonna get his eye and arm healed and gain some sort of Shinju powerup at the end if and only if, the flashforward scene at the start of the manga isn't the actual ending. If there is a big bad after the Boruto v Kawaki main fight, then I am pretty sure Naruto and Sasuke are coming back stronger.
 
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