Wiki Page Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)

[Antvasima]

Yes, they might have to be deleted. It is too bad though. I really liked the Music Meister episode.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Aphelion

((Quote|This reality is a stage, and I am the puppeteer. Nothing happens without my permission.|Aphelion)) In a multiverse created by Aphelion, a being with infinite power capable of manipulating reality, fate, and time, peace turns into a nightmare when he decides to become the absolute ruler...

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Aphelion

((Quote|This reality is a stage, and I am the puppeteer. Nothing happens without my permission.|Aphelion)) In a multiverse created by Aphelion, a being with infinite power capable of manipulating reality, fate, and time, peace turns into a nightmare when he decides to become the absolute ruler...

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Same user again but this time it's a tier 0 profile

Aphelion

((Quote|This reality is a stage, and I am the puppeteer. Nothing happens without my permission.|Aphelion)) In a multiverse created by Aphelion, a being with infinite power capable of manipulating reality, fate, and time, peace turns into a nightmare when he decides to become the absolute ruler...

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[Pepsimanslover]

Equinox (Batman: The Brave and the Bold)

Equinox is a character from the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. He was granted power as an infant by The Lords of Order and The Lords of Chaos, intended to preserve balance. However, he grew mad over the strain of his duties, & began seeking out his own vendettas, in pursuit of a...

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Music Meister (BTBATB)

The Music Meister is a villain that appears in the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Tier: 10-A physically, 9-B with normal equipment. Higher with prep, Unknown with powers Name: Music Meister (Real name is unknown) Origin: Batman: The Brave and the Bold Gender: Male Age: Unknown...

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[Tllmbrg]

Air-Walker

Gabriel was a Nova Corpsman that Galactus had transformed into a herald. Gabriel Lan was killed by weaponry intended to be used on Galactus. Galactus transferred Gabriel's life essence/consciousness to a mechanical replica of Gabriel. Tier: 3-C Name: Air-Walker, Gabriel Lan Origin: Marvel Comics...

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This page doesn't qualify for the Marvel issue amount for pages since the character only has 4 appearances (Unless appearances in guidebooks now count?)

 

[Antvasima]

Air-Walker

Gabriel was a Nova Corpsman that Galactus had transformed into a herald. Gabriel Lan was killed by weaponry intended to be used on Galactus. Galactus transferred Gabriel's life essence/consciousness to a mechanical replica of Gabriel. Tier: 3-C Name: Air-Walker, Gabriel Lan Origin: Marvel Comics...

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This page doesn't qualify for the Marvel issue amount for pages since the character only has 4 appearances (Unless appearances in guidebooks now count?)

He seems to qualify to stay:

https://cmro.travis-starnes.com/character_details.php?character=610

 

[Antvasima]

Equinox (Batman: The Brave and the Bold)

Equinox is a character from the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. He was granted power as an infant by The Lords of Order and The Lords of Chaos, intended to preserve balance. However, he grew mad over the strain of his duties, & began seeking out his own vendettas, in pursuit of a...

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Music Meister (BTBATB)

The Music Meister is a villain that appears in the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Tier: 10-A physically, 9-B with normal equipment. Higher with prep, Unknown with powers Name: Music Meister (Real name is unknown) Origin: Batman: The Brave and the Bold Gender: Male Age: Unknown...

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What do the rest of you think about this? Is somebody willing to improve on those pages?

 

[Pepsimanslover]

What do the rest of you think about this? Is somebody willing to improve on those pages?

I plan on revising the verse.

 

[SamanPatou]

I've just found out we have a profile for the alternative version of Doctor Octopus from the Reign continuity. He only appears in two issues, has very little material at his disposal to list infos about him and overall doesn't match our Marvel policies for amount of appearances and relevancy for alternate versions of the characters.

 

[Tomfer]

I've just found out we have a profile for the alternative version of Doctor Octopus from the Reign continuity. He only appears in two issues, has very little material at his disposal to list infos about him and overall doesn't match our Marvel policies for amount of appearances and relevancy for alternate versions of the characters.

Doesn't Reign only have 4 issues? Spidey's profile should be deleted too. (Although, with proper care, it can come back since Reign 2 is releasing now)

 

[Tllmbrg]

I think by virtue of being well Spider-Man and the leading guy he's relevant enough

 

[Antvasima]

I plan on revising the verse.

Okay. Thank you. That is good then.

I've just found out we have a profile for the alternative version of Doctor Octopus from the Reign continuity. He only appears in two issues, has very little material at his disposal to list infos about him and overall doesn't match our Marvel policies for amount of appearances and relevancy for alternate versions of the characters.

Yes. Agreed.

 

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Wang wei

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[SamanPatou]

I guess Reign Spidey can at least pull the card of protagonism and be spared in virtue of that.
Anyway, I'll erase Doc Oc tomorrow.

 

[AThe1412]

Rex (3D Monster Maze)

The Tyrannosaurus rex (also called "Rex") is the main antagonist of 3D Monster Maze. Rex is apart of an attraction and was unveiled after being perfectly preserved in silicon since prehistoric times. The player must navigate though Rex's lair, a maze, and attempt to escape without being...

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While the Rex is a pretty cool character who came from one of the first horror games ever made, I don't think a profile for it is necessary. Practically all of its abilities and stats currently come from the real world T-Rex profile. First, there's no reason why the Rex should scale to its real life counterpart other than sharing the same name. It lacks the feats to justify it (it doesn't even look as big) and nothing about it resembles an actual T-Rex other than its similar yet twisted appearance. Not to mention, the game was made in 1982 with outdated information on the creature. Second, the profile is such a carbon copy of the real T-Rex profile you can just use the actual animal in a versus match instead of the monster and nothing would change.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

While the Rex is a pretty cool character who came from one of the first horror games ever made, I don't think a profile for it is necessary.

I think it being the first survival horror game monster is enough "prestige" (for lack of a better term) for it to get a profile, but the page itself is a little on the lazy side, yeah.

They could've easily made a calc for this thing running and getting a KE out of it since it's way faster than a regular rex. The profile can stay if such a calc is made, I think.

 

[AThe1412]

I think it being the first survival horror game monster is enough "prestige" (for lack of a better term) for it to get a profile, but the page itself is a little on the lazy side, yeah.

They could've easily made a calc for this thing running and getting a KE out of it since it's way faster than a regular rex. The profile can stay if such a calc is made, I think.

If making tweaks to the profile means it can stay then that would be great honestly.

 

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Wang wei

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[SamanPatou]

Wang wei

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Dead

About Pixelrex, I agree to let it stay if someone overhauls it, otherwise it's better to erase it FRA.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

if someone overhauls it

I plan on revising it in a bit

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I made the Rex profile, so I'll give my thoughts

For one, it's from the first survival horror game ever, and there are multiple articles and video essays about it and how it shaped the genre. There are even fan-remakes and stuff for it, so it has a sizeable following and should be noteworthy enough.

While I admit it's a bit lazy to use "Should be identical to real a T Rex" for most of the justifications, that's true for the character. It's a t-rex, it should have similar stats to one. Not to fall into what-about-ism, but I actually made sure this was allowed by looking at other t. rex profiles on the site, which also used this method for some of the stats. This isn't just a thing for T Rexes(?) though, I thought it was fairly standard to scale fictional animals to their irl counterparts in the absence of other feats.

I don't really know how to do a KE calc, especially given the limited graphics of the game, but I could take a whack at it if nobody will.

First, there's no reason why the Rex should scale to its real life counterpart other than sharing the same name.

It's a T Rex. It's not a guy named T Rex, it's just an actual T Rex. For all intent and purposes, they should be comparable.

nothing about it resembles an actual T-Rex other than its similar yet twisted appearance.

Technical limitations. The game calls it a T-Rex multiple times. The cover art also depicts it as such

Second, the profile is such a carbon copy of the real T-Rex profile you can just use the actual animal in a versus match instead of the monster and nothing would change.

I agree they're very similar, but this one has a name and IS from a certain game, rather than just the generic T Rex

So basically, I do agree it's a bit lazy. It only took 10 minutes to make and I was motivated to make it in part because of how simple it was. I do think it should stay, and I want to somewhat justify my laziness by saying that the character should indeed scale to a real T Rex due to being (or at least, tries to be) identical to one.

 

[SamanPatou]

Uhm, DarkCarioca making calcs for it would be optimal, if I got his message correctly.
Otherwise, there are some accuracy troubles with scaling modern data animals to old depictions.
For example, we have a profile for a King Kong originating from a comic book made in the 60s (iirc) and it scales to T-Rexes but the idea they had of them at the time.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Uhm, DarkCarioca making calcs for it would be optimal, if I got his message correctly.

No prob

Otherwise, there are some accuracy troubles with scaling modern data animals to old depictions.
For example, we have a profile for a King Kong originating from a comic book made in the 60s (iirc) and it scales to T-Rexes but the idea they had of them at the time.

This makes a lot of sense actually, didn't think about that. I guess modern revelations wouldn't retroactively apply to an 80s depiction of a T-rex.

I think it should still be fine even when disregarding IRL scaling stuff, especially with a calc.

I do apologize for being a bit lazy with it. I was in a profile-making-mood and thought it'd be easy to do in only a few minutes.

 

[Wankbreaker]

what’s the requirement for a verse to be deleted? i’ve noticed a couple of problems with nasuverse while wiki skimming.

ill just list the important stuff.

servant profiles seem to use parameter/rank based scaling, which nasu has admitted that they shouldn’t be seriously used for power, and he has a seperate parameter for a servants lore strength.

nasu WOG is invalid ( for some reason?) problem is, pretty much every non-fate profile uses wog in its scaling, whether it’s the old nasu statement scaling DAAs to servants, or something else.
according to this rule. each one of these profiles would have to be remade from scratch scaling wise.

also, i was told both off and on site that the verse isn’t very active, and has lack of staff and member support

 

[DaReaperMan]

what’s the requirement for a verse to be deleted? i’ve noticed a couple of problems with nasuverse while wiki skimming.

ill just list the important stuff.

servant profiles seem to use parameter/rank based scaling, which nasu has admitted that they shouldn’t be seriously used for power, and he has a seperate parameter for a servants lore strength.

nasu WOG is invalid ( for some reason?) problem is, pretty much every non-fate profile uses wog in its scaling, whether it’s the old nasu statement scaling DAAs to servants, or something else.
according to this rule. each one of these profiles would have to be remade from scratch scaling wise.

also, i was told both off and on site that the verse isn’t very active, and has lack of staff and member support

TBH it really just takes a lot of work to fix shit up

Like, say, for QSH, he does pretty much nothing as a Servant, so he's scaling to Jeanne.

Or hell Mash's mere existence is a giant wrench in the whole parameter scaling...

I'd categorize servants at least from FGO into 3 categories

1. The Lore character you get as a servant(For instance, QSH or Oberon), These servants justify profiles for what they do when they're 'alive', but they very rarely do anything but talk when they're a Servant.
2. The Singularity/Lostbelt Participants; Servants like Musashi, or Mash, or either version of Orion. These servants actually do tangible shit in the story, and thus can have easy profiles made for them.(Or in Mash's case, had a profile made in the ancient times and nobody has updated it)
3. Exists. These are Servants who you can use and they talk, but they have no feats of doing anything

So yes it will eventually devolve into "Scales to this other arbitrary servant in their class" for 1 and 3

 

[KingNanaya]

servant profiles seem to use parameter/rank based scaling

I thinked @Violatas talked about making a crt to remove parameter scaling, but I'm not sure if it was ever made.

nasu WOG is invalid ( for some reason?)

yeah, a lot of stuff he says in interviews and stuff has always been really contradictory and weird.

problem is, pretty much every non-fate profile uses wog in its scaling

yeah, actual revisions are being made for that, to go through and fix the profiles.

also, i was told both off and on site that the verse isn’t very active, and has lack of staff and member support

it definitely has a large lack of staff support, but there are still members that are working on the verse. they just don't post often. I know @CRIMPSUMPSKI2 and @Mageman460 are working on some pretty large revisions, it's just taking a while because there's just so much that needs to be fixed.

 

[Wankbreaker]

I thinked @Violatas talked about making a crt to remove parameter scaling, but I'm not sure if it was ever made.

ah, I see

yeah, a lot of stuff he says in interviews and stuff has always been really contradictory and weird.

not really? not to the extent that you’re thinking of. i actually debunked some of the statements said to be contradictory in my replies to hyperzero, and nasu not writing the works/needed heavy editing? lol?

i don’t think nasu should be exempt from the usual “case by case”,especially since many of the statements brought up on that thread are cherry picked or are missing context (it took me 30 seconds to rebunk the Aoko statement, for example.)

in TM like most Japanese media franchises, the author has the aversion to cover all lore details in the story itself, so WOG and material stuff is needed to understand the verse

yeah, actual revisions are being made for that, to go through and fix the profiles.

it definitely has a large lack of staff support, but there are still members that are working on the verse. they just don't post often. I know @CRIMPSUMPSKI2 and @Mageman460 are working on some pretty large revisions, it's just taking a while because there's just so much that needs to be fixed.

if that’s the case,then a verse deletion is jumping the gun, but at absolute bare minimum,the non fate profiles will need to be handled heavily, as the scaling on them is now invalid to my knowledge.

 

[KingNanaya]

not really? not to the extent that you’re thinking of.

you can get the full details here of what I mean here

Nasuverse: Word of God Scaling Removal

This is an issue that should've been addressed long ago honestly. While most people here will agree that Nasu is incredibly inconsistent, the debate over which WoG statements from him are viable has caused some major back and forth, notably here, here, here, and most recently, here. There's...

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if that’s the case,then a verse deletion is jumping the gun, but at absolute bare minimum,the non fate profiles will need to be handled heavily, as the scaling on them is now invalid to my knowledge.

they will be. everything is gonna be revised sooner or later.

 

[SamanPatou]

You should make a CRT or use a discussion thread for this kind of argument, please don't clog up this management thread.

 

[KingNanaya]

You should make a CRT or use a discussion thread for this kind of argument, please don't clog up this management thread.

sorry about that

 

[KingNanaya]

I think Valkyrie Crusade should be deleted. nearly all the profiles have no scans and no justifications, as well as a bunch of unknown stats

Valkyrie Crusade

For detailed information about this series, visit the Valkyrie Crusade Wiki. Valkyrie Crusade is a Japanese fantasy role-playing card game, in which the story generally is centered around the player, who is the king of a new kingdom on the World of the Gods, the realm in which the gods reside...

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[DaReaperMan]

I actually saw Sonny getting mentioned on a staff thread and that reminded me...

Sonny

They call me Sonny. I'd like to tell you more about myself, but I can't. I don't even know my real name. It all started a year ago, on that dreadful ship... I'll never forget the ship. I died there. But somebody brought me back. Sonny is the main protagonist of the game series of the same name...

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This profile is old and awful and it will take me awhile to get around to fixing it

 

[Pepsimanslover]

Equinox (Batman: The Brave and the Bold)

Equinox is a character from the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. He was granted power as an infant by The Lords of Order and The Lords of Chaos, intended to preserve balance. However, he grew mad over the strain of his duties, & began seeking out his own vendettas, in pursuit of a...

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Music Meister (BTBATB)

The Music Meister is a villain that appears in the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Tier: 10-A physically, 9-B with normal equipment. Higher with prep, Unknown with powers Name: Music Meister (Real name is unknown) Origin: Batman: The Brave and the Bold Gender: Male Age: Unknown...

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B u m b

 

[Arceus0x]

Someone seems to have made a mistake

Audrey (Bendy and the Dark Revival)

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[Pepsimanslover]

Equinox (Batman: The Brave and the Bold)

Equinox is a character from the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. He was granted power as an infant by The Lords of Order and The Lords of Chaos, intended to preserve balance. However, he grew mad over the strain of his duties, & began seeking out his own vendettas, in pursuit of a...

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Music Meister (BTBATB)

The Music Meister is a villain that appears in the animated series Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Tier: 10-A physically, 9-B with normal equipment. Higher with prep, Unknown with powers Name: Music Meister (Real name is unknown) Origin: Batman: The Brave and the Bold Gender: Male Age: Unknown...

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These profile still haven't been deleted.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

These profile still haven't been deleted.

You said you were planning on revising them, are you sure you want them deleted? Wouldn't it be better to leave them around for that future revision? It might save you some trouble and extra editing.

 

[Pepsimanslover]

You said you were planning on revising them, are you sure you want them deleted? Wouldn't it be better to leave them around for that future revision? It might save you some trouble and extra editing.

My revisions come a bit later, and would first establish the heroes. So these can be deleted, for now.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Juno (Overwatch)

Juno is a Playable Hero in Overwatch 2 Juno was born to Jiayi and Dr. Khiem Van Minh on Mars during Project: Red Promise, which sought to terraform the planet for human settlement. Later, it was found to be too dangerous to stay on the planet due to the increasing storms, and thus the team had...

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So seems fairly solid of a profile right?

Well, a glance at three of her sections will give away that it's veiled opportunities for circular scaling, namely AP, Speed, and Stamina.

Juno would need feats to be scaling to Mercy and Lúcio, feats that she just flat-out doesn't have, and in Speed and Stamina it's just "Should be comparable to other heroes", which is a massive nono when nobody is scaling to anybody without direct reason.

 

[Jinx666]

Hugely disagree and do not approve of the unprofessional and condescending way i was approached when told about this (much worded like the reply above) as the creator of the page

While theres no direct feats or scaling for the character (she literally just come out), its by no far stretch to say that with her level of tech and status as an OW character, she would not be comparable to the rest of the cast on the surface level scaling. This is done by many series' on the wiki.

Overwatch has been hugely stagnant on this wiki, and constantly deleting any chance of new pages they should have just because of edits that can be done via a content revision thread, instead of feeling the need to delete it for personal spite.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Her level of tech or status doesn't matter. If she doesn't have a feat or statement to scale, she shouldn't scale. If she has a feat, she can scale, if she doesn't, we have a tier for that thst every OW character can do.

And if you really want to use tech as an argument, make her "At least High 8-C" scaling above Lúcio's sonic amplifier and scale her straight to Doomfist. Or go the next step and scale her to Torbjörn's artillery(AKA volcano guns) and make her Low 7-B.