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I'm a greedy person, for me the more it increases, the more people will stop thinking that Dragon Ball is a weak verse, limited to 3D onlyLow 1-C (5-D) is solid on the profiles, I wouldn't worry about anything higher for a while.
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I'm a greedy person, for me the more it increases, the more people will stop thinking that Dragon Ball is a weak verse, limited to 3D onlyLow 1-C (5-D) is solid on the profiles, I wouldn't worry about anything higher for a while.
How high the Tem D speed is will probably make is so they don't make it to top 10 or 15I really want there to be an updated top 10-15 fastest characters list I think Sonic characters and DBH characters would most likely be quite high into the list
Jeez, just how fast are they?How high the Tem D speed is will probably make is so they don't make it to top 10 or 15
It was actually seeing the thread on the brink of exception that made me ask that question lol. Shake is a massive W to have for the Sonic verse, the madlad keeps doing the impossible lol.due to a recent accepted thread, Game Sonic has as well
One question, would this also give him NEP type 1, aspect 2 negation for space and time? As he can add it when one lacks it?If you can comment, i would appreciate it.
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Dragon Ball Conceptual Manipulation End Closing
Space and time in Dragon Ball is represented in a different, way time in Dragon Ball shapes all reality, the living proof of this is the canon materials stating that space and time is a concept and that in the place you are in there are no concepts of space-time. "There is a subspace that...vsbattles.com
NoOne question, would this also give him NEP type 1, aspect 2 negation for space and time? As he can add it when one lacks it?
I don't understand, therefore i don't know.One question, would this also give him NEP type 1, aspect 2 negation for space and time? As he can add it when one lacks it?
I see.
It was more of a general discussion question, not at you specificallyI don't understand, therefore i don't know.
Like this bro, i'm very good bad at understanding complex thingsIt was more of a general discussion question, not at you specifically
If anyone else is interested, participate in this beautiful conceptual manipulation crt for the great DaishinkanIf you can comment, i would appreciate it.
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Dragon Ball Conceptual Manipulation End Closing
Space and time in Dragon Ball is represented in a different, way time in Dragon Ball shapes all reality, the living proof of this is the canon materials stating that space and time is a concept and that in the place you are in there are no concepts of space-time. "There is a subspace that...vsbattles.com
He was more of a primal entity in his IZ state, but type 5 immortality was accepted for him, but hasn't been applied yet I believeshouldn't manga Zamasu have Type 4 Immortality since he can come back from having his body and soul erased and possibly create a new body for himself?
No i mean the Hakai cant kill him even though it can destroy souls. That seems like it should grant him Type 4 as well since it means he can resurrect himself with a new body and a soulHe was more of a primal entity in his IZ state, but he type 5 immortality was accepted for him, but hasn't been applied yet I believe
Yes, it still needs to be applied, Null could finish its crts (it never ends)He was more of a primal entity in his IZ state, but he type 5 immortality was accepted for him, but hasn't been applied yet I believe
It's clear that Frieza training for 4 months to get to SSB level is plot bloost. Otherwise he could easily train for several months again and become trillions of timer stronger and be trillions of times SSB level, but that never happens again.In all fairness, Frieza's power gain from training is frankly absurd. Dude was stronger than SSB Goku after just 4 months of training and, just by image training for a year straight in Hell, then went on to rival a SSB Goku that was at bare minimum 10x stronger then he was after the U6 and Goku Black Arcs (which I say was the case because Goku needed Kaioken x10 against Hit, but only used regular Blue against a much stronger Hit). So it's just as crazy as it sounds.
Plus I think I know what you're talking about and, also to be fair, Frieza only kicked SSG Goku back into the ring after he was nearly knocked out. And Goku was tired still so I don't think that scene is meant to say Final Form Frieza is comparable to SSG Goku.
this is all movie stuff, all retconned ages ago. There's no "saiyan beyond god"It's clear that Frieza training for 4 months to get to SSB level is plot bloost. Otherwise he could easily train for several months again and become trillions of timer stronger and be trillions of times SSB level, but that never happens again.
In RoF Goku says "Lemme show you my new god-surpassing strength" when he went SSB. That's because in RoF base is SSG and SSB is the new SSJ surpassing SSG.
Further Frieza describes SSB as "Well, you are just still a Super Saiyan after all" Meaning regular SSJ
Goku counters it saying "Actually, it's a bit different" Than he explains SSB as "someone with the powers of SSG, who is SSJ". Meaning SSB is SSJ + SSG power from Saiyan Beyond God base with no god ki
Bluds still on this debacleIt's clear that Frieza training for 4 months to get to SSB level is plot bloost. Otherwise he could easily train for several months again and become trillions of timer stronger and be trillions of times SSB level, but that never happens again.
In RoF Goku says "Lemme show you my new god-surpassing strength" when he went SSB. That's because in RoF base is SSG and SSB is the new SSJ surpassing SSG.
Further Frieza describes SSB as "Well, you are just still a Super Saiyan after all" Meaning regular SSJ
Goku counters it saying "Actually, it's a bit different" Than he explains SSB as "someone with the powers of SSG, who is SSJ". Meaning SSB is SSJ + SSG power from Saiyan Beyond God base with no god ki
Lmao fr. I saw his ridiculous threads that lead him to getting thread banned. He didnt learnBluds still on this debacle
it has to be God Ki + SSJ because in the anime when Goku’s in base they can sense his energy. Then, when Goku goes SSJB they can’t sense his energy and assume he went SSJG, but he explains how he achieved this form. If they went from being able to sense him to not being able to sense him it means he got God Ki when he transformed to Blue. So he doesn’t have God Ki in his base form.
Let it go bro. It’s okay.
There's no "saiyan beyond god"
It did trought.Otherwise he could easily train for several months again and become trillions of timer stronger and be trillions of times SSB level, but that never happens again.
Hakai being unable to kill him was why he got type 5 iircNo i mean the Hakai cant kill him even though it can destroy souls. That seems like it should grant him Type 4 as well since it means he can resurrect himself with a new body and a soul
Technically, Goku black would be onethis is all movie stuff, all retconned ages ago. There's no "saiyan beyond god"
byt type 5 states that EE can in fact kill them so it seems wrongHakai being unable to kill him was why he got type 5 iirc
There's no proof he could make a new body
Type 5 state that abilities like EE can kill them, EE has many levels and aspects, you can be resistant to mind and body but not conceptual EE, among otherbyt type 5 states that EE can in fact kill them so it seems wrong
Yeah...Lmao fr. I saw his ridiculous threads that lead him to getting thread banned. He didnt learn
Except the power between MUI and SSB isn't that massive as confirmed that Jiren wasn't much stronger than them. So MUI would be below 100x SSB and that's Frieza surpassing with his strongest form not First Form, if he got another trillion times boost. Otherwise he would even one shot an Angel.It did trought.
Black Freeza.
Dragon ball is a strong verse tbhpeople will stop thinking that Dragon Ball is a weak verse, limited to 3D only
huh Why?MUI would be below 100x SSB
There are many people who still think it is a nursery rhyme for children and there is nothing serious about it.Dragon ball is a strong verse tbh
Frieza didn't get stronger, but Goku got weaker. Think about it even if we use SSG being 10x SSG. It means Frieza has to be constantly 4000x stronger than Goku. Also Napapa overpowered base Kale and he struggled against Basil who is shown to be weaker than Good Buu.Now that I think about, are there any other verses except DBH that have higher degrees of immeasurable speed BS
Frieza just built different
Because Jiren isn't that much stronger than them. So Jiren>SSB Kaioken 20x Goku by a few times.Dragon ball is a strong verse tbh
huh Why?
There is but without God Ki
there is no mainstream, popular anime I know that busts planets and threatens the destruction of universes so casually. Anyone who thinks Dragon ball isnt stupid strong is either ignorant or reads the kind of power fantasy fanfics that even Lionel Suggs would give a side-eye toThere are many people who still think it is a nursery rhyme for children and there is nothing serious about it.
True, but the movie retconned his power to the manga version.Tbf, that makes sense in the manga, but not in the anime
There, Jiren could flex SSB Evolution Vegeta and SSGSSKKx20 Goku attacks with his Aura alone
He is not reviving as he never died from it in the first place, so noshouldn't manga Zamasu have Type 4 Immortality since he can come back from having his body and soul erased and possibly create a new body for himself?
Idk if its ever stated that he cant die though unless IZ is some indication of thatHe is not reviving as he never died from it in the first place, so no