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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100


Guys, who is this character and why is bro on vs battle wiki?
LOLL
 

Guys, who is this character and why is bro on vs battle wiki?
No idea
 
Should Toei Goku in the Namek saga be far faster than his current speed? In the calc they said the north galaxy is just as big as any galaxy, but in Broly's profile they're accepted as being portions of the living universe (1/4th) so the speed could be far higher
we don’t know the actual distance from earth to namek, earth being at the edge of its quadrant and namek being in a different one doesn’t imply anything about their relative positions to eachother in space.

If namek is a significant % of the universe radius away from earth then the timeframe of travel from different space pods create heavy contradictions with one another as they are capped by Vegeta and Nappa taking 1 year to get to earth.
 

Guys, who is this character and why is bro on vs battle wiki?
Yea I'll get staff to delete this
 
Remember that one line in the super hero movie where Vegeta states that Jiren's raw power wasn't that much higher than blue with the only major difference between them was in how much more efficient Jiren used his?
Also the fact that the strongest form they use against Broly were all regular blues and not blue evolution in combination with kaioken x 20
 
@The_Yellow_Topaz Sorry for asking this even if I was in the thread, but correct me if I'm wrong: I've seen some staff/members disagree with the Resurrection F Manga being canon, arguing that the movie is more canon as scenes from it are directly shown in the super manga itself unlike the manga version. OR was their argument that both can be canon?
 
Greetings, I want to get to the point quickly, I heard some words that there is r>f in the dbh game, are they true?
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The training suits Goku and Vegeta use in Super's anime sink into the planet when they take them off, so can we calculate the amount of force is needed for that to find how much they weigh
 
Ight I just posted this if anyone is free please drop by and support the argument.

Looks like you guys took the L.
 
Check it out please
 
The training suits Goku and Vegeta use in Super's anime sink into the planet when they take them off, so can we calculate the amount of force is needed for that to find how much they weigh
I've looked around but seems like there's too many unknown variables.

Honestly I'll never understand why the Pretty Black Hole isn't used. The characters literally ramble on multiple times about it being a black hole or a singularity and even mention specific properties and effects that black holes have. Just because it was a weird shape does not mean it isn't meant to be an actual black hole which it clearly is.
 
Frankly if we can't count the Pretty Black Hole as a valid feat because it's shaped like a heart, we should just invalidate any feats that defy physics. Like why the double standards? These characters can literally move so fast that the speed of light is virtually immobile by comparison without any hazardous effects on the environment, or destroy the universe casually, but a black hole having a weird shape is just too much. Sometimes I just can't with this community lol.
 
I've looked around but seems like there's too many unknown variables.

Honestly I'll never understand why the Pretty Black Hole isn't used. The characters literally ramble on multiple times about it being a black hole or a singularity and even mention specific properties and effects that black holes have. Just because it was a weird shape does not mean it isn't meant to be an actual black hole which it clearly is.
Still can Calc the amount of force is being pressed down on them for lifting strength (only for ToP onwards
 
I'll give my summarized thoughts without too much bias!
an universe in dragon ball is not infinite and is size of a normal universe
Reasonable, infinite universe has arguments against it. Not being bigger than our normal observable universe... idk about that chief
theres only 12 universes and those universes doesn't have multiple space-times
No composite cosmologies = reasonable?
BoG goku and beerus clashes doesn't make them universal since their shockwaves coming from clashes got stronger each second meaning their raw powers alone doesn't scale to shockwaves
"Hitting each other with power capable of destroying the universe itself"
shockwaves was only stated to be destroying everything INSIDE the universe not the UNIVERSE ITSELF. Meaning at best it scales to high-uni
No composite cosmologies = no time dimension = no space-times = reasonable? since he's saying they aren't Hypertimeline level essentially
afterlife is not higher dimensional realm, it's just a place above living world in spiritual sense (it ain't a higher dimensional realm)
Reasonable
after BoG no character showed anything close to uni feat why? Because they are weak, they can't do anything to destroy even their universe. (Even moro stated to be galaxy level buster)
Cringe
ki control doesn't make sense for countering the argument above because broly is definitely not good at ki control especially after his full power ssj form. So broly is not universal even when he goes all out
Why didn't Broly just destroy the universe immediately and end the movie? is he stupid??
goku shooked an infinite nothingness (World of Void) scales to nowhere since it was a place without anything and he only SHOOK it. Doesn't mean he can destroy it
WoV never stated to be infinite anyway
Buuhan feat was only from anime + he was trying to chain reaction to destroy the universe not by his pure power. So he also not uni+
Ultima already cooked
Infinite zamasu feat doesn't matter since we saw goku always saying "i can beat this guy" and getting rag dollged after that. Doesn't prove he can defeat infinite zamasu
Good thing Goku's statement isn't the main scaling point!
jiren transcending time doesn't make him also uni+ since transcending time only means he is immune to time abilities
Reasonable
Goku never destroyed U7, so there's no way he could be universal
Low tier argument
Goku was surprised by Beerus' sneeze that destroyed a planet, so there's no way he can be universal if he's scared by a planetary attack
Nuke level Saitama??
Moro and Zamasu are said to be capable of destroying galaxies, so Goku is only galaxy level at most
I think Zamasu translation could refer to "all galaxies" or "cosmos" iirc
Zeno is bounded by space and times Logically if he is truly creator of all of Multiverses and Timelines and his existence beyond that, there should be no multiple version of Zeno, aka transduality existence. Fodder god is not even beyond Cosmology of Dragon ball, caps at 4D
No duh he didn't create every conceivable timeline, he is literally stated to be ruler of all 12 Universes
 
I'll give my summarized thoughts without too much bias!

Reasonable, infinite universe has arguments against it. Not being bigger than our normal observable universe... idk about that chief

No composite cosmologies = reasonable?

"Hitting each other with power capable of destroying the universe itself"

No composite cosmologies = no time dimension = no space-times = reasonable? since he's saying they aren't Hypertimeline level essentially

Reasonable

Cringe

Why didn't Broly just destroy the universe immediately and end the movie? is he stupid??

WoV never stated to be infinite anyway

Ultima already cooked

Good thing Goku's statement isn't the main scaling point!

Reasonable

Low tier argument

Nuke level Saitama??

I think Zamasu translation could refer to "all galaxies" or "cosmos" iirc

No duh he didn't create every conceivable timeline, he is literally stated to be ruler of all 12 Universes
I think that even if composite cosmology is dismantled we can still use the dimensions of lights to prove that the Universe is 2-C
 
But it would be interesting if we had quotes from Zeno having created all 12 Universes and the timelines, would that give him anything other than reality manipulation or creation?
 
Hey guys, here's what I plan to do.

  • Fix DBS' dogshit scaling ✅
  • Fix SSB's dogshit multiplier ✅
  • Bring 22nd Budokai Tien and Goku back to moon level. (And trust me, it will be easy) ✅
In that order. I'm currently dealing with SSB's dogshit multiplier so let's hope that gets solved soon :)
All my plans for Dragon Ball have been accomplished. I am now at peace.
Told ya making Tien 5-C was easy as heck, dunno how that downgrade even got through.
 
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