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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

MinatoSparkle said:
Even in Naruto it's treated as an amp with Naruto using it to counter Sasuke's PS and it being the best option against Juubito
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Naruto has feats that'd put him physically above Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o lol.
And against Juubito it was used to counter the TSO. The KA is immune to the erasure (when imbued with Senjutsu), but Naruto is still physically susceptible.

Anyway, this conversation is pointless atp due to the Boruto statements and showings, so let's not do what we always do and have pointless ahh debates.😭
 
So are the Juubi clones going to get the Rinnagan abilities under their profile even though they haven't used them at all? And at what point do we consider Sasuke using them in Part 2 an outlier since it's been over 82 chapters and he hasn't shown himself using any of them?
 
KingogKings777 said:
So are the Juubi clones going to get the Rinnagan abilities under their profile even though they haven't used them at all?
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They won't get them until they show them, or at least some of them.
KingogKings777 said:
And at what point do we consider Sasuke using them in Part 2 an outlier since it's been over 82 chapters and he hasn't shown himself using any of them?
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UchihaSlayer96 said:
It's because we currently accept Kurama Mode (KCM2) as having access to all of Kurama's power. Basically, the idea is that Kurama Mode is their version of full power Version 2, which is stated to possess the power of a Bijuu trapped in humanoid form. Meanwhile, Kurama Mode is obviously their version of Bijuu Mode, which offers the advantage of additional size, range, and most importantly, the ability to use Bijuu Bombs. This is more or less the reason why we currently don't differentiate between KM and the KA in stats. It's a bit confusing because Kurama Mode and the KA are visually distinct from standard Bijuu transformations (even the ones that Naruto himself used to undertake before mastering Kurama's chakra), but I think it makes sense.
He should get a "higher with Bijū Bombs" on his 2nd key, though.
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Why did only Kurama have that weird energy manifestation thing?
 
A charecter not using an abbility for a long time doesent mean its an outlier wth. Ig we should say narutos frog strike is an outlier cause he hasent displayed it for hundreds of chapters.
 
So i’ve been looking at some of the wiki’s rules. Calc Stacking perplexes me to a degree, but let me ask this question…

If Kakashi is 4.3Gt via his scaling… would Naruto sharing his Chakra with the Shinobi Alliance be rejected for scaling on grounds of Calc Stacking?

We know the Tailed Cloaks he gave everyone is “At Least” a 3x Amp being they’re superior to the 3x Amp he gave Kakashi to exploit Kamui, and I’ve figured out that about 2400 Ninja got cloaks. Iirc, this means Naruto sharing his Cloaks is a 1.295e23J feat (Supports his current tier), but would that be rejected?
 
SlendVeny said:
He probably can't use them as easily because his Rinnegan is weird
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If anything his Rinnegan should be better since you only need one Rinnegan to use the powers of both eyes as shown and stated by Madara and Obito, yet Sasuke's is a hybrid between a Rinnegan and a Sharingan.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
So i’ve been looking at some of the wiki’s rules. Calc Stacking perplexes me to a degree, but let me ask this question…

If Kakashi is 4.3Gt via his scaling… would Naruto sharing his Chakra with the Shinobi Alliance be rejected for scaling on grounds of Calc Stacking?

We know the Tailed Cloaks he gave everyone is “At Least” a 3x Amp being they’re superior to the 3x Amp he gave Kakashi to exploit Kamui, and I’ve figured out that about 2400 Ninja got cloaks. Iirc, this means Naruto sharing his Cloaks is a 1.295e23J feat (Supports his current tier), but would that be rejected?
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Most likely, yeah.
SlendVeny said:
But that's just them manifesting the bodies of the Bijuu, Naruto is making cloaks and shit out of Kurama.
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They're not undergoing the usual physical transformation like usual. They're manifesting a chakra/energy version of their Bijuu, just like Naruto does with Kurama. If you're wondering why Naruto's version looks so different, we simply don't know. It was never really explained or addressed, and was likely just an aesthetic choice by Kishimoto to give his main character more individuality.
SlendVeny said:
He probably can't use them as easily because his Rinnegan is weird
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He used them just fine in the original manga, and even occasionally in the Boruto anime and in the novels. It's just the Boruto manga that was a bit stingy with the cool stuff.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
They're not undergoing the usual physical transformation like usual. They're manifesting a chakra/energy version of their Bijuu, just like Naruto does with Kurama. If you're wondering why Naruto's version looks so different, we simply don't know. It was never really explained or addressed, and was likely just an aesthetic choice by Kishimoto to give his main character more individuality.
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Do you think that Bijuu cloaks would be possible for other Bijuu? Shukaku, maybe.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
He used them just fine in the original manga, and even occasionally in the Boruto anime and in the novels. It's just the Boruto manga that was a bit stingy with the cool stuff.
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Didn't he mostly use Deva Path?
 
SlendVeny said:
Yeah, but I meant something similar to KCM or KM.
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V2 is their equivalent to these forms IMO, but there's nothing exactly like them for the other Bijuu, no.
I guess Gaara also had a unique transformation, but I mainly attribute that to Kishimoto not having fully developed the rules for Bijuu and Jinchuriki forms yet. Which he then proceeded to break with Naruto, anyway lol.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
V2 is their equivalent to these forms IMO, but there's nothing exactly like them for the other Bijuu, no.
I guess Gaara also had a unique transformation, but I mainly attribute that to Kishimoto not having fully developed the rules for Bijuu and Jinchuriki forms yet. Which he then proceeded to break with Naruto, anyway lol.
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With Gaara, I think it's something to do with him not fighting back as much, like Kurama vs Pain.
 
I wouldn't blame Sasuke for not using the six paths abilities all that well.
They seem generally useless in the fast paced fights Sasuke usually finds himself in in Boruto.
Animal path is useless.
Healing path is weird as he could definitely have used it to get his arm back. But remaining one armed seemed to be Sasuke's way of repaying for his crimes as he refused to get the hashirama enhanced limbs either.
Preta path is cool and all but his opponents aren't the biggest fans of ninjutsu so there's nothing to absorb in the first place. Absorbing remotely like with the Bijuu ain't happening because the Bijuu were already incapacitated by genjutsu in the first place which isn't happening to the otsutsuki goons.
I can't see any practical use for the Asura path against his opponents.
Deva path has the most promise but even then. I can't see bansho tenin working effectively against the otsutsuki given how Jigen can simply shrink away, momoshiki can teleport away and Kaguya can just send an ash killing bone his way. The basic shinra Tensei has the same weakness with the addition of him sending away Naruto (who is usually with him in these fights).
The devastation shinra Tensei also has the additional demerit of requiring a shit ton of chakra. Chibaku Tensei was broken out of by momoshiki (in the anime). That stuff ain't holding Jigen
Add that to the fact that there's a time lag between the deva path abilities use.
The lie detector path. Really?
Outer path has no application in actual combat.
Madara himself didn't use the paths in actual combat much
 
Testarossa002 said:
I wouldn't blame Sasuke for not using the six paths abilities all that well.
They seem generally useless in the fast paced fights Sasuke usually finds himself in in Boruto.
Animal path is useless.
Healing path is weird as he could definitely have used it to get his arm back. But remaining one armed seemed to be Sasuke's way of repaying for his crimes as he refused to get the hashirama enhanced limbs either.
Preta path is cool and all but his opponents aren't the biggest fans of ninjutsu so there's nothing to absorb in the first place. Absorbing remotely like with the Bijuu ain't happening because the Bijuu were already incapacitated by genjutsu in the first place which isn't happening to the otsutsuki goons.
I can't see any practical use for the Asura path against his opponents.
Deva path has the most promise but even then. I can't see bansho tenin working effectively against the otsutsuki given how Jigen can simply shrink away, momoshiki can teleport away and Kaguya can just send an ash killing bone his way. The basic shinra Tensei has the same weakness with the addition of him sending away Naruto (who is usually with him in these fights).
The devastation shinra Tensei also has the additional demerit of requiring a shit ton of chakra. Chibaku Tensei was broken out of by momoshiki (in the anime). That stuff ain't holding Jigen
Add that to the fact that there's a time lag between the deva path abilities use.
The lie detector path. Really?
Outer path has no application in actual combat.
Madara himself didn't use the paths in actual combat much
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I agree, Deva Path is the only Rinnegan ability that I truly miss in Boruto. At least Isshiki wouldnt have been able to shrink Shinra Tensei. Preta Path would have been nice to see against Momoshiki since he was a ninjutsu spammer, but thats about it. The rest of the powers arent worth much.

Would have liked to see Sasuke use more ninjutsu with his Susanoo after he used Susanoo Chidori against Naruto, like making use of Enton.

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NeoKingOfLight said:
Wait… is it confirmed that Kishimoto wrote the Special Story in Connections?
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No, he didnt even supervise it.

Havent read much about the game, but Nanashi sounds like a fanfic character with that disgustingly overpowered MS, lol
UchihaSlayer96 said:
That Bansho Tenin + Enton: Kagutsuchi combo from the anime still lives rent free in my head. It's canon as far as I'm concerned.
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That was great. I miss Enton more than the Rinnegan powers, honestly.
 
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