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Unverifiable GoW scans and ability removal
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Aite then. Gimme a minute.
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The burden of proof is on you to show they were doctored or made with ill intentions, not me.
Either way, you seem to forget that WoG is only used as clarification for what already exists. We would not have been able to use any of it without the game showing it in the flesh or talking about it.
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Whoa, what? Why would someone else need to prove private messages are fake? Are you taking the stance that our default approach should be to assume that unverifiable private messages with authors are real unless someone can prove them fake?
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Concept Invulnerability can stay, it just needs re-linking to Zeus being unable to affect or interact with him in any way, shape or form.
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The equivalent of "Trust me bro".
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Interesting. So I can now fake any DMs, and unless someone else can show me a proof that I fake it, I can use it.
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He said this because the DM fully supported by the game... But if the community is of the opinion that it should be removed, mehhh I can't say anything.
Georredannea15
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Alr then
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And because many other GoW supporters with more in-depth knowledge than me (Who actively look for legitimate DMs and tweets that can actually be used and verify them on a daily basis) told me as such. I saw no reason to distrust their word and I personally don't think them to be doctored either based on that. But if y'all wanna remove it, I won't protest, but to pretend none of these abilities fit without WoG is just straight up wrong. If the game didn't have it we wouldn't think twice about never using WoG.
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If they can explain how these DMs were verified that would be helpful
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Unfortunately most of them have since left. I never got the chance to ask them, as the screenshots taken were from before my time on the wiki.
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Okay but why is no selling an attack extrapolated to Invulnerability ?
Remove conceptual manipulation resistance. There's no manipulation of concepts here and being able to interact with a concept in non physical interaction
Resistance Negation nah. Overcoming someone's resistance to something is just layers. Very different from having a mechanism that sidesteps resistance entirely. EG. Red Key from Umineko which ignores the very concept of resistance
Remove conceptual manipulation resistance. There's no manipulation of concepts here and being able to interact with a concept in non physical interaction
Resistance Negation nah. Overcoming someone's resistance to something is just layers. Very different from having a mechanism that sidesteps resistance entirely. EG. Red Key from Umineko which ignores the very concept of resistance
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The link was supposed to be changed to Enhanced Resistance, guess I forgot.
As for no manipulation of concepts, laughable as that is, we see Zeus do it just fine when he seals the Evils and when he attempts to subsume Kratos with Fear itself.
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We can have those discussions in a separate CRT. Not this one.
Georredannea15
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It's not necessary? Because, against this, Hope was stated and also shown to be unaffected, uninteractive and untouchable...
No need to remove
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Regardless, this is a scan verification and replacement issue. Not the place to deal with this.
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I'd love to see scans where Invulnerability was conferred to Hope. Oh wait, you're assuming again
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Sure, dude. Now can you stop derailing the thread? This is a scan issue not an ability one.
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Lol, look at what KLOL left above... If you are going to make accusations and assumptions worse than accusations and assumptions, don't make a fuss.
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Ignore Georr for a second. I think if you want to deal with someone who sends shreds of evidence with links, do it with those two staff members in a separate thread.
Regarding your modifications, @Planck69, they overall look good. I won't judge if they meet the criteria at the moment, as it would be derailing the current premise of the thread. However, I trust you as a person that these should be legitimate replacements, or at least, that was the original intention, when it was first introduced.
Regarding your modifications, @Planck69, they overall look good. I won't judge if they meet the criteria at the moment, as it would be derailing the current premise of the thread. However, I trust you as a person that these should be legitimate replacements, or at least, that was the original intention, when it was first introduced.
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Not the right place and not the right time, you might as well speed up the process by remaining silent.
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Guys... Don't jazz anymore, it's simple. Especially you, Dread, keep your personal stuff to yourself.
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Ehmm, actually this is just a rewording of the feats. It doesn't change, remove or add any ability, so I don't see any problem in applying this, it's like adding a new scan and removing an outdated one to the profile.
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Hmm, true actually.
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This is just straight up laughable. We see Zeus literally interact with the Great Evils, summon them, manipulate them and seal them inside Pandora's box, and then again when he uses Fear against Kratos in the end of GoW3.
Again, this is an issue of scans, not the justifications. Not that your reasoning for this particular bit holds any water anyway given what's shown with Zeus.
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Dread, I think you should stop with this for a second here. Georre has been doing a lot of heavy lifting alongside Planck here while I was busy doing other stuff, and you're just not helping your case by being this overtly assertive here.
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Sure. Dereck can open the relevant profiles for Planck to edit now.
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