The Queen of Lost vs The Weakest Pokemon (She-Hulk vs Magikarp)

[Dinamic8000]

Really surprised no one tried this before

Anyways, 9-A Magikarp and speed equalized, although it is raining and Magikarp have Swift Swim, so it end's up getting a slight speed boost

Magikarp is 0.0112333 tons and She-Hulk is 0.0163655 Tons

She-Hulk:
Magikarp: 7 (JustANormalLemon, Witchakorn, Mariogoods, LeoEpicGamer8910, Random-Helper323, Dragonite007, Dinamic8000)
Incon:

 

[Dinamic8000]

Bump

 

[PROPLAYEN]

For some reason Magikarp links to Wallace Hebertson

 

[Imaginym]

Magikarp MIGHT outrange via Hydro Pump &/or Dragon Rage....

Range: Below Standard Melee Range (Is .9 meters. Standard melee range begins at 1 meter); likely up to Hundreds of Meters with Hydro Pump.

Magikarp is also 1 of the few Pokemon we lowball the estimate of its intelligence for: "Below Average in combat as Magikarp,"

Silver	For no reason, it jumps and splashes about, making it easy for predators like PIDGEOTTO to catch it mid-jump.

& its Pokedex entries, although not always clear if it's unintelligent or just weak, do advocate for its Stamina:

Ultra Moon	Thanks to their strong hold on life, dirty water doesn’t bother them at all. They live in waters all over the world!

Alpha Sapphire	Magikarp is virtually useless in battle as it can only splash around. As a result, it is considered to be weak. However, it is actually a very hardy Pokémon that can survive in any body of water no matter how polluted it is.

Legends: Arceus	A feeble, pitiful imbecile of a Pokémon that is nonetheless very hardy. Unperturbed by turbid water, it can be found living in all sorts of places.

....However, it might just be that its very tolerant of unclean water.

Either way, Magikarp doing anything more than splashing around is OoC for it. It might use Bounce, which can inflict Paralysis (Halved speed -In modern games. In earlier games it was quartered-, 25% chance to not act.), 30% of the time, but those odds aren't ideal.

Magikarp is 0.0112333 tons and She-Hulk is 0.0163655 Tons
So She Hulk is roughly 1.45 times stronger, but Magikarp acts twice as often given Swift Swim & Rain.
So it might just hit & flop out of the way of her attacks, if it has the sense to.


Range: Standard Melee Range. Tens of Meters with thunderclaps
Could & would She-Hulk exploit her range advantage?

Regeneration (Low: Healed from her car crash injuries upon transforming)
Is her Regeneration combat applicable?


Also, do we count IQ Skills here, or no?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I would say magikarp resilience is applicable for stamina sinse It's said that is beacuse their "hold on life" instead of just "evolved to survived" so I would say It's stamina

Another thing, sinse magikarp will be jumping around to hights of over the mountains It will be really hard for she-hulk to hit the fish in a consistent matter

 

[Imaginym]

I would say magikarp resilience is applicable for stamina sinse It's said that is beacuse their "hold on life" instead of just "evolved to survived" so I would say It's stamina

Another thing, sinse magikarp will be jumping around to hights of over the mountains It will be really hard for she-hulk to hit the fish in a consistent matter

Well, it CAN do that.

Platinum	A MAGIKARP living for many years can leap a mountain using Splash. The move remains useless, though.

Doesn't mean it will, considering Below Average Intelligence in combat, & if we consider the anime, it takes lots of training to get Magikarp to jump high, so not just any Magikarp may have the volition to do that.

Plus, what's its game plan then? Leap into the air, spam the moves it's unlikely to use due to characterization & low intelligence, & pray She Hulk doesn't try to see where it falls back down to?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I mean, just jumps aimless around and slowly do chip damage as she try to keep up with the faster fish that also don't know where It's going also

and sinse we are using the 9-A magikarp this should be a magikarp that can do the "mountain" jumpsince this one of the arguments for "9-A" magikarp, so this magikarp is 100% jumping out of her view and back non stop

 

[Dinamic8000]

For some reason Magikarp links to Wallace Hebertson

Opps, my bad

Range: Standard Melee Range. Tens of Meters with thunderclaps
Could & would She-Hulk exploit her range advantage?

Regeneration (Low: Healed from her car crash injuries upon transforming)
Is her Regeneration combat applicable?


Also, do we count IQ Skills here, or no?

Haven't watched the show, but she used this ability at least twice (One of them strategically), so i guess it would't be out of character for her to thunderclap during the end of Magikarp jumps in order to deflect the attack or at least cushion the impact

About the regeneration, the fact it is only low and only works when she transforms makes it not applicable

Finally, the only IQ mentioned in the profile is Intimidator, which according to Bulbapedia has "33% chance to cancel an incoming close-ranged attack, regardless of the direction the attacker is facing", so yeah, i guess it would work if She-Hulk decides to punch and/or hold the Magikarp, the thunderclaps and the object throws however would not be considered close-ranged IMO

I mean, just jumps aimless around and slowly do chip damage as she try to keep up with the faster fish that also don't know where It's going also

and sinse we are using the 9-A magikarp this should be a magikarp that can do the "mountain" jumpsince this one of the arguments for "9-A" magikarp, so this magikarp is 100% jumping out of her view and back non stop

The 9-A calc used for reference the highest jump possible in Magikarp Jump, which is 345 m, not something to reach the clouds (Even the game saying so), but definitely a height which a normal eyesight couldn't keep thought all his trajectory (Although i think she could still see and react the last moments before the impact)

Wanna also remember that, due to LS superiority, is She-Hulk manages to catch and hold the Magikarp (And bypass Intimidator) would be very difficult for it to escape, unless it uses other attacks

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Wanna also remember that, due to LS superiority, is She-Hulk manages to catch and hold the Magikarp (And bypass Intimidator) would be very difficult for it to escape, unless it uses other attacks

I mean, have you ever tried to hold a fish? this things are slippery

The 9-A calc used for reference the highest jump possible in Magikarp Jump, which is 345 m, not something to reach the clouds (Even the game saying so), but definitely a height which a normal eyesight couldn't keep thought all his trajectory (Although i think she could still see and react the last moments before the impact)

It wouldn't change much, sinse the AP used is from magikarp is from destroying the floor after the jump not really from the hight of the jump It self :V

 

[Dinamic8000]

I mean, have you ever tried to hold a fish? this things are slippery

Well, we are talking about an big fish with an mouth and some barbels what could definitely help in the grip

Also, let's considere that it's raining like the Pokemon move, just an minor rain that wouldn't make you that much wet

It wouldn't change much, sinse the AP used is from magikarp is from destroying the floor after the jump not really from the hight of the jump It self :V

I know, i was just saying that following the game the Magikarp can barely jump heights of mountain level (In the anime otherwise, things can got a little... Insane)

 

[Dinamic8000]

Bump

Also, let's remember that if Magikarp started spamming jump she could enter the buildings near Central Park (The SBA arena) to also block some of the impact and also difficult for the fish to rise again

 

[JustANormalLemon]

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Also, let's remember that if Magikarp started spamming jump she could enter the buildings near Central Park (The SBA arena) to also block some of the impact and also difficult for the fish to rise again

To be fair, magikarp jumping around would be even harder to block in a closed space

and let's also not forget that we are using a "strong" magikarp, isntead of the uselless ones the pokedex say, using moves like hidro pump or tackle isn't out of question

 

[Witchakorn]

Pokemon verse had out of logic than She Hulk show
She Hulk can possibly lose to magickarp.

She Hulk never fought something that had written like pokemon verse.

The Show still had logic of the show with Limit while Pokemon cant show all written in live action show

Imagine Magickarp appear in she hulk show as it written. (Pokemon too powerful)

Vote Magickarp

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Pokemon verse had out of logic than She Hulk show
She Hulk can possibly lose to magickarp.

She Hulk never fought something that had written like pokemon verse.

The Show still had logic of the show with Limit while Pokemon cant show all written in live action show

Imagine Magickarp appear in she hulk show as it written. (Pokemon too powerful)

Vote Magickarp

this.... thsi argument don't make sense

 

[Witchakorn]

this.... thsi argument don't make sense

If this Argument dont make sense...that mean she Hulk win right?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

wh... what?

 

[Coolboy6]

Either She Hulk commits animal cruelty or she gets owned by a fish of all things

hmm

 

[Imaginym]

Bump

Also, let's remember that if Magikarp started spamming jump she could enter the buildings near Central Park (The SBA arena) to also block some of the impact and also difficult for the fish to rise again

In theory, but with Rain active, Magikarp is twice as fast. If it's intent on pursuing her, she isn't escaping, & it CAN just attack with Tackle or Flail.
Also, while it's not that smart, putting a wall it can't hop through like the door or windows might frustrate it enough to actually use its range (Hydro Pump &/or Dragon Rage.) to destroy her cover, & at least hit her.

Also, what does She Hulk even do once she's inside the building? Cower? I guess try & camp to do her thunderclap shockwaves or whatever? Throw rocks at it? Would she do that IC-ly?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Also, what does She Hulk even do once she's inside the building? Cower? I guess try & camp to do her thunderclap shockwaves or whatever? Throw rocks at it? Would she do that IC-ly?

To be fair, he shockwaves mostly are used to trow oponents, not really ffor damage, I guess she would try to lure the fish inside?

I think Magikarp would eventually use It's strongher moves like hydropump and dragon rage, so Magikarp vote

 

[Imaginym]

There is the possibility that her shockwaves send Magikarp away. But if it's at double speed, that's kind of futile -Unless being in the building prevents the rain boosting Magikarp's speed- & it ouranges her if it actually tries using its range....
Yeah. Add on to that eventually, Flail will be stronger than Tackle, & it can probably win the damage race if it has the sense to try Flailing a few times in the latter half of this.

If being in a building prevented Magikarp's Speed Boost, She-Hulk would have the advantage via better AP/Striking Strength, more Lifting Strength, & better Intelligence. Magikarp having a longer range reach might be less impactful when it's not twice as fast as her & may not readily spam as it needs to, but the options exist if she tries to keep it away, & Flail makes it a challenge in melee.

It feels like She Hulk's best chance is figuring out the rain is making Magikarp faster & luring it out of there, but even then, she's only slightly favored, no?
But as long as it's boosted by the rain, she's outdamaged, & possibly outmaneuvered.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Magikarp would probable eventually destroy the building if somehow got inside It (hitting It's pillar by acident while jumping around)

 

[Witchakorn]

In theory, but with Rain active, Magikarp is twice as fast. If it's intent on pursuing her, she isn't escaping, & it CAN just attack with Tackle or Flail.
Also, while it's not that smart, putting a wall it can't hop through like the door or windows might frustrate it enough to actually use its range (Hydro Pump &/or Dragon Rage.) to destroy her cover, & at least hit her.

Also, what does She Hulk even do once she's inside the building? Cower? I guess try & camp to do her thunderclap shockwaves or whatever? Throw rocks at it? Would she do that IC-ly?

Imagine it appear in She Hulk show as it written...
She Hulk would confuse a bit
"What is that Things?!"

 

[Dinamic8000]

In theory, but with Rain active, Magikarp is twice as fast. If it's intent on pursuing her, she isn't escaping, & it CAN just attack with Tackle or Flail.
Also, while it's not that smart, putting a wall it can't hop through like the door or windows might frustrate it enough to actually use its range (Hydro Pump &/or Dragon Rage.) to destroy her cover, & at least hit her.

Also, what does She Hulk even do once she's inside the building? Cower? I guess try & camp to do her thunderclap shockwaves or whatever? Throw rocks at it? Would she do that IC-ly?

Oh shit, didn't know the Speed gap would be so high with Swift Swim, i thought something around 30%

Anyways, watching this video i now thinking that entering the buildings out not be something she would do in character, most likely besides the thunderclaps she would throw rocks and the trees of Central Park (This last i suppose counts as a grass type attack, lol)

But yeah, the main problem is that most likely it would take her a time to figure out about the rain, the character seems to have difficult understanding about things outside of her reality

I still thinking she could had a change with a grab, but due to RA and the Intimidator skill this is an around 10% scenario

Anyways, i think we have 2 votes for the #129 fish

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Oh shit, didn't know the Speed gap would be so high with Swift Swim, i thought something around 30%

Yep, doubles
anyways, lord Magikarp FRA

 

[Witchakorn]

she would throw rocks and the trees of Central Park (This last i suppose counts as a grass type attack, lol)

Still a Normal Typre move....

Logic like if She Hulk or Lion can use bite on Ghosht type pokemon as Dark Type

They are not pokemon.

But some case like some magician characters that can use Tree element still not count as grass type in fact.

Malfurian from warcraft 3 still not a grass type.

 

[Imaginym]

Still a Normal Typre move....

By what logic? Fling is Dark-type, & Wood Hammer is Grass-type.
But nonetheless, Normal is a Pokemon type. Non Pokemon's stuff do not have types, & that includes not being Normal type, AFAIK.

Logic like if She Hulk or Lion can use bite on Ghosht type pokemon as Dark Type

At some point I wanna go over how many of the games, & several of the anime depictions depict Bite & such with like... energy projections.

 

[Witchakorn]

She-Hulk: 2 (JustANormalLemon, Witchakorn)

Who said I vote she Hulk? OMG! (This is Insane!)

I vote Fish.

 

[Mariogoods]

I vote to Fish FRA.

 

[Dinamic8000]

Who said I vote she Hulk? OMG! (This is Insane!)

I vote Fish.

Corrected

I vote to Fish FRA.

Counted

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Magicrap FRA

 

[Random-Helper323]

If Bounce inflicts paralysis, it seems like another wincon, since paralysis typically prevents all movement. Wasn't it agreed that Pokémon still moving was resistance, or did that thread go belly up because the OP kept pushing for other things?

Also, why are all the votes for Magikarp listed as votes for She-Hulk?

 

[Dragonite007]

Pokemon God fra

 

[Dinamic8000]

Counted

And finally, Magikarp FRA

Also, sorry for all editing mistakes, never again doing this on mobile

 

[Witchakorn]

Counted

And finally, Magikarp FRA

Also, sorry for all editing mistakes, never again doing this on mobile

She Hulk vs Magikarp fight in Mobile Phone..... (What A Timeline)

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Still a Normal Typre move....

wood hammer

 

[Witchakorn]

7 grace right?

Magikarp: 7

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yeah, grace starts, and in 24 hours Magikarp will have won a fight for the first time ever.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Grace ended two weeks ago... I get it, it can't be added until Magikarp finally runs out of PP for Splash so it can use Struggle, right? That could be a while...

 

[King_Clab]

She really lost to a fish

 

[Random-Helper323]

Is this okay to add? I figure either She-Hulk's supporters have picketed the staff to have her protected from any more losses, or people are just so bored with the biggest loser in Pokémon (apart from maybe Team Rocket) beating one of Disney's many recent flops.