• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Wang Ling ( Anime ) UPGRADE FOR LOW 1c / 5D

Status
Not open for further replies.
tensura dream world even have more context to this
if he saw time and space as a dream why was he still within time and space
I have already explained my skepticism regarding the first image. The rest aren't even the type of iron clad proof you think it is. Wang Ling has entrapped himself in the new world he created. Him waking up is just him remembering about the previous world. And as I have posted, him waking up doesn't even destroy the New World. It still exists as the split loop and don't cease to exist like it is claimed in the OP.
As i said jingke already said if they didn't wake him up in time the previous one will be get consumed but the one wang ling was dreaming and will take place of the previous one , but when it was going happen before that sung rong used jingke to destroys his abstraction on the universe .
 
As i said jingke already said if they didn't wake him up in time the previous one will be get consumed but the one wang ling was dreaming and will take place of the previous one , but when it was going happen before that sung rong used jingke to destroys his abstraction on the universe .
previous will be destroyed cuz it was being absorbed by the other
 
then entire thread is out of context
you should change it or ask a staff to close it
as here doesn't look like anything 5th dimensional while still being in a 4th dimensional plane and no 5D ap here
so yeah ask a thread moderator for a close as you can see
the previous universe was being absorbed by the new one
and he was experiencing both simultaneously waking wang up didn't even do anything
within a 4D plane being 5D without 5D ap is very pointless argument
you took the dream stuff off context
 
he was experiencing both simultaneously waking wang up didn't even do anything
within a 4D plane being 5D without 5D ap is very pointless argument
you took the dream stuff off context
Neither i am wanking nor out of context i did research on wiki first then i also asked in the dream thing already in Q&A here you can see this and i also researc on some more sites on wiki and i also found

[ viewing a Low 2-C to 2-A cosmology as fiction would grant Low 1-C ]

[Potential mediums for viewing a cosmology as fiction include: written media (Books or stories), images (Paintings, comics, or movies), data (Simulations or video games), or mental constructs (thoughts or dreams). All of the above would be considered less 'real' than the person who views the cosmology as such, and can directly imply qualitative superiority]

You can find this stuff Here . In the QUALIFIER section .

Do research before say that to me .
 
Things like Dreaming and R/F needs context to back them up, not every Dreaming leads to low 1-C, just like how humans aren't low 1-C because they have dreams. Based on what I am seeing here nothing hints low 1-C.
 
Neither i am wanking nor out of context i did research on wiki first then i also asked in the dream thing already in Q&A here you can see this and i also researc on some more sites on wiki and i also found

[ viewing a Low 2-C to 2-A cosmology as fiction would grant Low 1-C ]

[Potential mediums for viewing a cosmology as fiction include: written media (Books or stories), images (Paintings, comics, or movies), data (Simulations or video games), or mental constructs (thoughts or dreams). All of the above would be considered less 'real' than the person who views the cosmology as such, and can directly imply qualitative superiority]

You can find this stuff Here . In the QUALIFIER section .

Do research before say that to me .
let's see where this goes then if he would get low 1-C
I am now only following the thread
 
Things like Dreaming and R/F needs context to back them up, not every Dreaming leads to low 1-C, just like how humans are low 1-C because they have dreams Based on what I am seeing here nothing hints low 1-C.
he won't listen lol
let's see what admins will say tho
 
Things like Dreaming and R/F needs context to back them up, not every Dreaming leads to low 1-C, just like how humans aren't low 1-C because they have dreams. Based on what I am seeing here nothing hints low 1-C.
he won't listen lol
let's see what admins will say tho
Bruhಠ︵ಠ

he was not just doing a normal dreaming
He dreaming a space time itself a 4D construction.
 
Where are moderators
Probably asleep.

But after catching up to the thread, I believe the feat is Tier 2, but doesn't qualify for Tier 1. It's not a "true" R>F dream but a weird pocket dimension feat.
You still say it's a pocket dimension when it's already proved it was his abstraction of the univer
 
Interesting.
But i have to disagree here, it says ‘wang ling enjoys the peaceful life hes been dreaming about’ and this seems to be implying that he is enjoying his ideal life or what he has always wanted, not that he is quite literally dreaming of it.
I do not think this is enough for r>f.
 
Interesting.
But i have to disagree here, it says ‘wang ling enjoys the peaceful life hes been dreaming about’ and this seems to be implying that he is enjoying his ideal life or what he has always wanted, not that he is quite literally dreaming of it.
I do not think this is enough for r>f.
Again ,
Are you ignoring other Pics on purpose ?
 
But i have to disagree here, it says ‘wang ling enjoys the peaceful life hes been dreaming about’ and this seems to be implying that he is enjoying his ideal life or what he has always wanted, not that he is quite literally dreaming of it.
I do not think this is enough for r>f.
Disagree. The phrase "the peaceful life he's been dreaming about." Instead of suggesting that Wang Ling is currently enjoying his ideal life, the phrase implies that he has been dreaming of a peaceful life but has not yet achieved it. This does give quantitative superiority as "R>F".
 
Interesting.
But i have to disagree here, it says ‘wang ling enjoys the peaceful life hes been dreaming about’ and this seems to be implying that he is enjoying his ideal life or what he has always wanted, not that he is quite literally dreaming of it.
I do not think this is enough for r>f.
Disagree. The phrase "the peaceful life he's been dreaming about." Instead of suggesting that Wang Ling is currently enjoying his ideal life, the phrase implies that he has been dreaming of a peaceful life but has not yet achieved it. This does give quantitative superiority as "R>F"
But the sentence is "Wang Ling is enjoying the peaceful life he is been dreaming about, but that all happens in a different world."
Also the new world was not the dream but loop of space time formed around wang ling
The world still survives after Sun Rong splits it from Wang Ling which they use to reverse the timeline.
Also this
 
But the sentence is "Wang Ling is enjoying the peaceful life he is been dreaming about, but that all happens in a different world."
Also the new world was not the dream but loop of space time formed around wang ling
The world still survives after Sun Rong splits it from Wang Ling which they use to reverse the timeline.
Also this
You missing manythings ,and yes you too ignoring other pics where jingke and sunrong talking about how to wake him up and the loop of time and space was the space time which he created in his sleep and sun rong used jingke to destroys wang lings abstraction and later they used those to get the original world back
 
But the sentence is "Wang Ling is enjoying the peaceful life he is been dreaming about, but that all happens in a different world."
Also the new world was not the dream but loop of space time formed around wang ling
The world still survives after Sun Rong splits it from Wang Ling which they use to reverse the timeline.
Also this
I disagree with this statement because I don't think the new world was a loop of space time. It was a separate space-time that was created during Wang Ling dreams. And the sources you provide has skipped so many contexts. There is no evidence or information to support the idea that it was not a dream. As it's already stated by the producer on the episode itself.
 
how am i ignoring anything? those other pics don't really prove anything?
its like saying humans have dreams, therefore we are 4D because what we dream of is 3D?
Burh it's not just simple dream he is seeing the universe which has a literal space time in it with a different story going on there as a dream.
 
Last edited:
And i would like to say all of you guys that can we wait for the morderators to give their opinion .
 
I am now even more confident this doesn't qualify for Tier 1. There's no R>F going on in my view.

So I'm against an upgrade based on this.
Can you plz give me the reason ?
 
I am now even more confident this doesn't qualify for Tier 1. There's no R>F going on in my view.

So I'm against an upgrade based on this.
you should as well expressed and explain your opinion with this CTR. As why did you disagree to this CRT with evidence or information to support your disagreement.
 
Can you plz give me the reason ?
It just reinforced what I saw earlier. The person was dreaming up a universe in a fashion that would lead to R>F.
you should as well expressed and explain your opinion with this CTR
I did earlier. Watching it just reinforced my earlier view. The feat is Tier 2 but not Tier 1.
 
It just reinforced what I saw earlier. The person was dreaming up a universe in a fashion that would lead to R>F.

I did earlier. Watching it just reinforced my earlier view. The feat is Tier 2 but not Tier 1.
I believe that the feat qualifies for Tier 1 because it demonstrates qualitative superiority to R>F as the OP provided. While I disagree with your agreement of the feat as Tier 2, I respect your perspective and would be interested in hearing more about your reasoning. However, it is important to present clear and well-supported arguments with evidence or information rather than simply stating a disagreement without explanation.
 
demonstrates qualitative superiority to R>F as the OP provided.
What the OP said was that he dreamed a universe and that should qualify as R>F. R>F requires quantifiable superiority, which isn't achieved in the show. The fact the universe needed the leech of off another one just makes it a weird reliant pocket dimension fest more so thsn anything.
 
with the evidences shown I'll give my thoughts on this,yes this isn't 5th dimensional feat if anything it mostly looks like 4th dimensional
they said its a dream but the context doesn't align with such
you should check what it means to be superior
it's either the universe was a pocket dimension or he was the universe not superiority over it as he couldn't even control that universe as if he could he could just wish for another sun rong
the second thing is that he is experiencing time and space all over again which doesn't see feat to be an avatar of his

the other time and space he was in would be destroyed but the only context was that because wang ling absorbed the other universe energy and all of what makes it up into the new one

seeing Something as a dream is different also from above-what you provided,he wanted a universe where there's sun rong but there's no sun rong that peaceful life he was living was like a dream to him,not that all of time and space was his mind and part of his thought making him a higher extension,that's false you could've argued higher dimensional existence but now I'm not sure anyone will take it .....you also could've open a thread in question and answers to confirm something then a staff can change it into a crt but no

why this isn't 5D is so simple
they must be quantitative superiority like the 4th dimension must be totally unreal to you aka its fiction reality to fictional transcendence
you say its a dream
scans says it's more like he created his one world which he isn't or doesn't consciously have superiority over

someone saying it's a dream doesn't mean it's a dream we take context for approval not someone words
you can also call this a pocket dimension like an fictional space he created to enjoy his life there

and lastly I don't see how you can be 5th dimensional while in a 4D plane with no 5D attack potency
if that's possible its only done through using Avatars or possible dimensional manipulation in the sense you can exist even while being superior

it's cool tho find admins to clear you up on this issue cuz I don't think anyone will agree to this
 
R>F requires quantifiable superiority, which isn't achieved in the show. The fact the universe needed the leech of off another one just makes it a weird reliant pocket dimension fest more so thsn anything.
It the show, it does meet the criteria for R>F because it exhibits superior qualities, as it even stated as separated space-time (which is his dream). Universe could be considered as real and superior to fictional universes are not dependent on the means by which it was created, but rather on the internal consistency and believability of the universe and CRT itself. As long as the dreamed universe is internally consistent and believable, it could potentially be considered R>F, regardless of how it was created. The universe leech of off another one which made a weird reliant pocket dimension fest is flawed or irrelevant in this context, as there is no supported evidence or shows that prove it is a pocket dimension. But I am still looking forward to hearing more about your perspective.
 
Last edited:
It the show, it does meet the criteria for R>F because it exhibits superior qualities, as it even stated as separated space-time (which is his dream). Universe could be considered as real and superior to fictional universes are not dependent on the means by which it was created, but rather on the internal consistency and believability of the universe and CTR itself. As long as the dreamed universe is internally consistent and believable, it could potentially be considered R>F, regardless of how it was created. The universe leech of off another one which made a weird reliant pocket dimension fest is flawed or irrelevant in this context, as there is no supported evidence or shows that prove it is a pocket dimension. But I am still looking forward to hearing more about your perspective.
my man is trying to educate an administrator 😂
 
you should check what it means to be superior
it's either the universe was a pocket dimension or he was the universe not superiority over it as he couldn't even control that universe as if he could he could just wish for another sun rong
the second thing is that he is experiencing time and space all over again which doesn't see feat to be an avatar of his
Again that universe was unintentionally abstracted by wang ling as he was not trying to do so , and and his avatar of himself was also there in that newely created space time ,

the other time and space he was in would be destroyed but the only context was that because wang ling absorbed the other universe energy and all of what makes it up into the new one
Again that universe was going to replace
the previous one .
why this isn't 5D is so simple
they must be quantitative superiority like the 4th dimension must be totally unreal to you aka its fiction reality to fictional transcendence
Again space time itself is a 4D construction viewing it as a dream would give the qualitative superiority as r>f .


someone saying it's a dream doesn't mean it's a dream we take context for approval not someone words
you can also call this a pocket dimension like an fictional space he created to enjoy his life there
You are free to prove that it was a pocket dimension as it already proved it was replacing the previous one and there are no proof of that being a pocket dimension.
 
It the show, it does meet the criteria for R>F because it exhibits superior qualities, as it even stated as separated space-time (which is his dream).
That's not superiority. That's just reliant existence. Superiority is not met in the show, it's just a pocket dimension feat more or less.
 
it's just a pocket dimension feat more or less.
Since , when abstraction comes under pocket dimension, or can you prove that it was a pocket dimension, as i already said it was not a pocket dimension as the universe was going to replace it .
 
or can you prove that it was a pocket dimension
It's automatically a pocket dimension. It exists within the character and is reliant on him for existence. A pocket dimension doesn't need to be small (if you want to be technically we have multiple 1-A and High 1-A franchises that are just pocket dimensions of another larger being), it just has to be spawned from something else.
 
Yeah, this just seems like a dreams become universes tbh. I never heard of perceiving universes as dreams being something that validates Tier 1. Plenty of verses are 2-B via dream scaling. It's more like perceiving entire 2-B or 2-A sized cosmologies as the inside of a comic book, game cartridge, or better yet a saved data file within a cartridge is what I have seen get accepted as Low 1-C or above. So I pretty much agree more with Qawsed.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top