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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Kachon123 said:
Yes
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Ooh, I think I found your soulmate: https://media.**********.net/attachments/306638293192409093/1047699836616593479/unknown.png
But in all seriousness, no, that can't happen. They control all types of fire. Sabo will just absorb his fire.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
No it wouldn't. How would fire burn the user of the fire fruit? You ain't using your noggin little brother.
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No limits fallacy. We see magma, which has superior heat in the One Piece verse being capable of burning Ace, so the same thing would happen to Sabo with Ifrit.
 
Kachon123 said:
Their haki clashed. Sabo then used Dragon Breath and destroyed Burgess' armor.
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Exactly.
Also when did Haki completely let you neg a Logia like that? I think he'd still be immune to the flames even if his opponent had better Haki.
 
Kachon123 said:
Their haki are ~. Sabo won the clash because he added his fighting style, not because of purely haki.

Haki makes logias tangible.

Haki gives resistance negation.
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even if Sanji had better Haki, Sabo would sense that ( he has Observation ) and go for a different approach.
Like when Ace saw Blackbeard about to neg his fruit and just threw fire spears into his body instead.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Sabo will use send the fire through him into his organs.
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Thats what Sanji's flames do. Since he had natural fire resistance, it never effected him the way it did to others.

Ifrit's heat was so intense that Sanji wouldn't have been able to use it. It would have burned him the same way it did to Jabra back on Enies Lobby, but because of his Haki and exoskeleton, those effects are negated, thus he can use Ifrit without sustaining external or internal damage.

First you would have to prove that Sabo's flames are hot enough to bypass Sanji's natural flame resistance, then you'd have to prove that it would bypass his exoskeleton flame resistance, than lastly you would have to prove that Sabo's flames are hot enough that they can bypass both added on with his haki.
 
Like I'm confused as to how you can say that Sabo can just burn Sanji as if he doesn't have 3 layers of flame protection with each of them having higher resistance than heat Sabo can even output.
 
Kachon123 said:
It's not ryou. Sabo described it as sending the force of the attack to the core of the object.
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Kachon123 said:
Like I'm confused as to how you can say that Sabo can just burn Sanji as if he doesn't have 3 layers of flame protection with each of them having higher resistance than heat Sabo can even output.
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You yourself said he sends the force of his attack through the object into it's core. By your logic, it will ignore Sanji's outer protection and go straight for his unprotected insides.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
You yourself said he sends the force of his attack through the object into it's core. By your logic, it will ignore Sanji's outer protection and go straight for his unprotected insides.
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Thats the shockwave. The flames would be blocked but the shockwaves wouldn't.

As for the shockwaves we already talked about how Sanji's regen covers that.
 
Kachon123 said:
Thats the shockwave. The flames would be blocked but the shockwaves wouldn't.

As for the shockwaves we already talked about how Sanji's regen covers that.
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Sanji's "regen" just puts his bones back together. I doubt it could cover a shockwave to his vital organs.
 
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