Even if we can't say it's True Omnipresence (and I agree that it's not True Omnipresence), I think we can still say it's Nigh-Omnipresence, because in the scan, Venom doesn't say he's doing it via symbiotes. And I don't remember anything like that being said anywhere.
When Thor single-shot, he was empowered with odinforce(odin magic) so it was stronger than he was. Ghost Rider just checked it was also an aspirant(dark celestial) not a normal celestial.Sentry just pierced his armor anyway that celestial had been killed by Knull before, confirmed in this series.
The reason he killed Celestials was because he was empowered with odinforce. Also, the celestial that the sentry passed through was a dead celestial, as I said before. I will send scans soon
The part I'm talking about is references from Uncanny avengers 2012 and king in black. Odin spell is generated to cut celestial armor and this is confirmed 3 times
In the continuation of this, Jarnbjorn, who is again strengthened with Odin Magic, cuts Exitar's armor and destroys it, assuming that Odin's power exceeds all space and all time.
I will make a small correction. Knull only killed a single celestial billions of years ago. Here it is called Celestials, so there must be at least 2 of them, so what you say is rotting anyway. The celestials that became Knull's slaves are the celestials he had previously killed. a small "s" changes all the focus. so the celestials that appeared in the Main Event were dead.
Nothing here is 5-D without additional information, simply being outside or beyond conventional space and time isn't 5-D.
Isn't enough for 5-D even statement of a character itself called 5-D won't just give a character 5-D/Low 1-C tier without additional information.
ED just defined omniscient as omnipotent, that's funny. Anyways omnipresent looks good all these are from the same issue right?
Also ED defined omniscient as omnipotent so you are more likely correct.
Not enough for 5-D needs more proof.
That celestial was already dead though I think in King in Black: #issue 3.
Okay. If it was explicitly shown, I won't argue further, but it seem uncertain if it retained its raw power or not.
I say again Thor didn't do any buffs. Jarnbjorn already has a unique power from Odinforce at that time. In addition, the reason why they fought the celestials for a short time in Avengers 2018 #4 was also explained.Thanks to Blood of Ymir, they got a short amped. And Odin said of this power, the only thing that could stand against the Celestials. That's why it's quite consistent to be able to go to the sea for a little while. especially for a magic weapon of uncertain powerhttps://media.**********.net/attachments/950375982739640370/1039981068918476831/IMG_20221109_220410.jpghttps://media.**********.net/attachments/950375982739640370/1039982814856216627/Screenshot_2022-11-09-22-10-18-074_com.android.chrome2.jpg
This should give She-hulk resistance to extreme cold, and I've always thought Thor was resistant to cold probably cause this might be more extreme. Are you proposing the Amps makes them tier 1 or is there something i am missing?
It's obvious that he doesn't have the power at the moment. In the future, he is alive and taking part in the struggle with the celestials. Also, I definitely didn't say Tier 1. it only raises it to low 1c for a short time. true celestials linked to dreamspace which is already 1a. these low complex areas are lower dimensional manifestation bodies. I've been trying to explain this for how many days
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Based on the profiles of this characters all these are tier 2 plus can i see proof of celestials dreaming the universe to reality?
Power to resist the cold? I meant Thor always has resistance to cold not just this particular book. The scans you brought to prove Low 1-C celestials to upgrade Knull none are Low 1-C.It's obvious that he doesn't have the power at the moment. In the future, he is alive and taking part in the struggle with the celestials. Also, I definitely didn't say Tier 1. it only raises it to low 1c for a short time. true celestials linked to dreamspace which is already 1a. these low complex areas are lower dimensional manifestation bodies. I've been trying to explain this for how many days
then it can be written in Celestials profile for wiki that it should be taken between 2a and low 1a (with explanation). And there is no point in prolonging it any longer. Let's reach a consensus.
dude, for low 1c, transcending spacetime is fine. Also, I think I disproved what you said. Thor event is related to odinforce while avengers event is related to blood of ymir. You cannot put a certainty because both powers are open-ended. so there is no inconsistent situation. For the sentry event, however, they only appeared as giants covered in black slime, who were already unconscious and the celestials' strength. Also, the celestials opposite Knull were not even present in any of the events you mentioned. headless celestial and others give birth to the big bang that triggered the 7th cosmos. They also take on the dominant role that organizes and shapes the cosmos when no one is present at that point. I don't know why you still don't want to understand. They saw 4d universes as dreams and it was stated to have eternal imagination. They defeated Odin. They are said to be infinitely more powerful than kubik and post retcon beyonder. They were also referred to as metaphysical entities in their own fictions. These are all arguments that will make the 5d feat I'm talking about consistent. But if you don't agree, there's nothing we can do
I honestly don't think it's unnecessary. I still have not received answers to the questions in my head. I think that what I have said is not fully corrected and delayed. for example i said knull omnipresent You said it wasn't like that either. You said it was about symbiotes. I told him it wasn't, and that issue was left hanging. likewise, most of the topics have been delayed
Transcending space and time without additional information isn't Low 1-C even called 5-D alone isn't Low 1-C without additional proof. Antvasima already gave reasons why blood of ymir can't scale to celestials. And sentry case obviously he won't scale as they were already dead and controlled by symbiotes and im talking of celestials in King in Black.
