Minecraft (the player) upgrade

[SparxGaming12]

A single world in Minecraft is infinite sized and the player can create or delete them infinitively.
Player views those infinite world's as dream = High 1-B
Omnipresent & Transduality

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This was attempted and rejected numerous times. And he used to be High 3-A or 2-B, until alter Low 1-C was proposed if taken literally, but it was decided not to take those literally since he physically is simply Tier 9/8.

 

[SparxGaming12]

This was attempted and rejected numerous times. And he used to be High 3-A or 2-B, until alter Low 1-C was proposed if taken literally, but it was decided not to take those literally since he physically is simply Tier 9/8.

But he can create the world's and can be scaled to tier 1 just like how zeno is in tier 2 even tho he is weakest physically right?

 

[SparxGaming12]

This was attempted and rejected numerous times. And he used to be High 3-A or 2-B, until alter Low 1-C was proposed if taken literally, but it was decided not to take those literally since he physically is simply Tier 9/8.

Or you are ignoring the fact that he can create or delete the world's infinite times (ad infinitum)
And in end poem it is literally stated that he can create and destroy world's just by dreaming

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Destroying Infinite Worlds and an Infinite Amount of time's is still just Low 2-C. He would have to do destroy and create them all at once for them to even reach 2-A, and it a Uncountably Infinite amount of time's at once for it to ever reach Low 1-C.

 

[SparxGaming12]

Destroying Infinite Worlds and an Infinite Amount of time's is still just Low 2-C. He would have to do destroy and create them all at once for them to even reach 2-A, and it a Uncountably Infinite amount of time's at once for it to ever reach Low 1-C.

The player can create worlds with no end ( ad infinitum)
If you don't know what is ad infinitum

 

[SparxGaming12]

Destroying Infinite Worlds and an Infinite Amount of time's is still just Low 2-C. He would have to do destroy and create them all at once for them to even reach 2-A, and it a Uncountably Infinite amount of time's at once for it to ever reach Low 1-C.

And as i said the player views the world's as dream which means he above all of those world's putting him at infinite dimensonal since he views the 2 "higher dimensional beings" showed in ending poem as mere texts

 

[SparxGaming12]

Destroying Infinite Worlds and an Infinite Amount of time's is still just Low 2-C. He would have to do destroy and create them all at once for them to even reach 2-A, and it a Uncountably Infinite amount of time's at once for it to ever reach Low 1-C.

This was attempted and rejected numerous times. And he used to be High 3-A or 2-B, until alter Low 1-C was proposed if taken literally, but it was decided not to take those literally since he physically is simply Tier 9/8.

I agree on the player having low chance on tier 1 but i am 99.9% sure that he deserves tier 2 because everything was stated in ending poem already + i gave some of those statements in this thread

 

[Thelastmlg]

1. As others said, you need to do it at once to even be 2-A

2. Dude we know what ad infinitum means, it means repeating forever, which is not the same as having infinite repetations at once.

3. That's not high 1-B, infinite universes is 4D and transcending them in this kind would be low 1-C, to be high 1-B those universes would need to be a hierachy where each one transcends the other, which they aren't

 

[DaReaperMan]

Not this again-

Basically, unless these universes transcend eachother dimensionally, you will never get even 1-B, right now what you just listed is 2-B, and since that key doesn't even EXIST anymore you aren't netting anything

 

[Xxiaa]

Obviously disagree there’s clearly ZERO R>F in what was presented.

 

[SparxGaming12]

1. As others said, you need to do it at once to even be 2-A

2. Dude we know what ad infinitum means, it means repeating forever, which is not the same as having infinite repetations at once.

3. That's not high 1-B, infinite universes is 4D and transcending them in this kind would be low 1-C, to be high 1-B those universes would need to be a hierachy where each one transcends the other, which they aren't

Ok
1. A single minecraft universe contains universe of thier own and the player can create them infinitively

2. First of all can you explain the 2nd point properly? Since i don't see much difference between Ad infinitum & Tier 2-A since it states "countably infinite"
Countably infinite.

3. Ok i was doubting it will actually reach 1B but well there were 2 existence higher then all of the infinite amount of worlds and the player views them as mere text which was stated by the higher beings themselves.

So well tier 1 has low chance of getting promoted but well i will be satisfied the player getting upgraded to atleast tier 2

 

[SparxGaming12]

Obviously disagree there’s clearly ZERO R>F in what was presented.

.... You read the dream scan which i gave you? Well here's another one
Every realities in Minecraft are the players dream is this enough for r>f requirements?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Is this an already rejected before argument? Sure is!

 

[SparxGaming12]

Is this an already rejected before argument? Sure is!

Well i don't mind the 1B scale getting debunked but ya the vsbw is hella underrating "the player" just because he is weak in the world and ignoring the fact that he can create or delete infinite amount of world's which is 2A and the real steve which views every reality of minecraft as dream should be atleast low 1C but well let's see what others have to say

 

[DaReaperMan]

Well i don't mind the 1B scale getting debunked but ya the vsbw is hella underrating "the player" just because he is weak in the world and ignoring the fact that he can create or delete infinite amount of world's which is 2A and the real steve which views every reality of minecraft as dream should be atleast low 1C but well let's see what others have to say

https://vsbattles.com/threads/undertale-crt-low-1-c-player.137920

 

[SparxGaming12]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/undertale-crt-low-1-c-player.137920

Well i don't know anything about undertale and i cant read that whole 3 page discussion but that guy haven't shown any proof of "the player" viewing the game as fiction which proves that all those are his head canons but in minecraft it is legitimately stated that the player views the world's created in minecraft nothing more then dreams

 

[wozirut]

Disagree. There is no evidence that the player can destroy or create more than 1 worlds simultaneously.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Well i don't know anything about undertale and i cant read that whole 3 page discussion but that guy haven't shown any proof of "the player" viewing the game as fiction which proves that all those are his head canons but in minecraft it is legitimately stated that the player views the world's created in minecraft nothing more then dreams

Oh I'm a moron and grabbed the wrong thing, let me grab the actual minecraft one

https://vsbattles.com/threads/some-minecraft-revisions-tier-2-and-up-edition.118963/

Here it is lmfao

 

[SparxGaming12]

Disagree. There is no evidence that the player can destroy or create more than 1 worlds simultaneously.

Uhhhh say what? The player can delete multiple world's simultaneously

 

[Thelastmlg]

Ok
1. A single minecraft universe contains universe of thier own and the player can create them infinitively

2. First of all can you explain the 2nd point properly? Since i don't see much difference between Ad infinitum & Tier 2-A since it states "countably infinite"
Countably infinite.

3. Ok i was doubting it will actually reach 1B but well there were 2 existence higher then all of the infinite amount of worlds and the player views them as mere text which was stated by the higher beings themselves.

So well tier 1 has low chance of getting promoted but well i will be satisfied the player getting upgraded to atleast tier 2

Yes, he can create one at a time forever, not at once, it changes nothing.

Simple, ad infinitum means counting towards infinite, countably infinite means infinite that you can count if you are given infinite time.

The problem is, ad infinitum can't reach countably infinite unless infinite time passes, which is not the case with minecraft.

Idk sbout the whole higher entities part so i'll let others take care of it

 

[SparxGaming12]

Yes, he can create one at a time forever, not at once, it changes nothing.

Simple, ad infinitum means counting towards infinite, countably infinite means infinite that you can count if you are given infinite time.

The problem is, ad infinitum can't reach countably infinite unless infinite time passes, which is not the case with minecraft.

Idk sbout the whole higher entities part so i'll let others take care of it

Well ok you are saying that minecraft can't be 2A because it will take "the player" infinite amount of time to create those infinite world's
Even tho the world's can be created under 1 min each which already completes the requirement of ad infinitum so idk how it still dosnt make the player lowballed 2A since he is creating realities after realities in minutes and you are saying infinite time

 

[SparxGaming12]

Yes, he can create one at a time forever, not at once, it changes nothing.

Simple, ad infinitum means counting towards infinite, countably infinite means infinite that you can count if you are given infinite time.

The problem is, ad infinitum can't reach countably infinite unless infinite time passes, which is not the case with minecraft.

Idk sbout the whole higher entities part so i'll let others take care of it

Btw The "higher level" in this is same as dimensonality not hyperbole or anything else since those beings are embodiment of everything in Minecraft and exists everywhere in Minecraft i mean everything in Minecraft existence and the player reaching at thier level and viewing them as mere text proves he is above everything in Minecraft

 

[Xxiaa]

This was attempted and rejected numerous times. And he used to be High 3-A or 2-B, until alter Low 1-C was proposed if taken literally, but it was decided not to take those literally since he physically is simply Tier 9/8.

Thread should be closed, no new arguments have been presented that haven’t been rejected

 

[SparxGaming12]

Thread should be closed, no new arguments have been presented that haven’t been rejected

As i said i dont mind the player not getting upgraded to tier 1 but even tho it is stated "the player" created universes why the heck it is not even Universal level

 

[Thelastmlg]

Well ok you are saying that minecraft can't be 2A because it will take "the player" infinite amount of time to create those infinite world's
Even tho the world's can be created under 1 min each which already completes the requirement of ad infinitum so idk how it still dosnt make the player lowballed 2A since he is creating realities after realities in minutes and you are saying infinite time

No it doesn't, taking 1 minute to create each world is worse than baseline 2-C, the fact that he can't create all of those at once means he ain't 2-A, simple.

Just to clear, the size of the worlds don't matter, than being finite or infinite in size does not change anything, only the quantity created at once, he clearly only creates one world every time so he is at best 2-C

Also, that's the definition of countably infinite, reaching infinite by counting for a infinite time, i am just explaining you what 2-A means and why the player ain't reaching it by creating 3 universes per dream

 

[Sus]

A single world in Minecraft is infinite sized and the player can create or delete them infinitively.
Player views those infinite world's as dream = High 1-B
Omnipresent & Transduality

Thats not what high 1B is..

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

look, i dont really see why steves tier 2/1 key got nuked, but this aint it chief

 

[SparxGaming12]

No it doesn't, taking 1 minute to create each world is worse than baseline 2-C, the fact that he can't create all of those at once means he ain't 2-A, simple.

Just to clear, the size of the worlds don't matter, than being finite or infinite in size does not change anything, only the quantity created at once, he clearly only creates one world every time so he is at best 2-C

Also, that's the definition of countably infinite, reaching infinite by counting for a infinite time, i am just explaining you what 2-A means and why the player ain't reaching it by creating 3 universes per dream

Hmmm well ok but still can you explain me why the player is so low in vsbw even tho he has Universal+ feat

 

[SparxGaming12]

No it doesn't, taking 1 minute to create each world is worse than baseline 2-C, the fact that he can't create all of those at once means he ain't 2-A, simple.

Just to clear, the size of the worlds don't matter, than being finite or infinite in size does not change anything, only the quantity created at once, he clearly only creates one world every time so he is at best 2-C

Also, that's the definition of countably infinite, reaching infinite by counting for a infinite time, i am just explaining you what 2-A means and why the player ain't reaching it by creating 3 universes per dream

Btw minecraft has 3 separate spacetime in a single world = 4D and the higher beings who are higher dimensional for the minecraft entire world should be 5D and if the player views them as mere text and trancend them won't that make him 6D?

 

[Catpija]

Disagree, this is clearly a lowball

Steve seeing an infinite world infinitely as just a dream is at minimum 1A

 

[SparxGaming12]

Disagree, this is clearly a lowball

Steve seeing an infinite world infinitely as just a dream is at minimum 1A

 

[TheGatememer]

Having multiple space time continuums in a single one doesn’t equate to it being higher dimensional by default. You also need supporting evidence such as there being an uncountable infinite number of Tier 2 worlds, or it being stated to be a higher plane of existence via reality-fiction.

while I personally think Tier 1 Minecraft has some legitimacy, the wiki removed the Real World Player key (ie, the key that had them at 2-B) due to an interview with the writer, who called it a metaphor.

TC: That's interesting to me, because there is this huge contrast between the ending you wrote – which is essentially a fairly cryptic short story 1,500 words long – and Minecraft itself, a sandbox game that's famous for its openness. I think people have given your story the title "wake up", because that line comes at the end, and it feels like it's about different layers of dreams, or realities…

JG: The word "dream" gets used, but it's really a story about the dream of a game, and the dream of life. It's dream as metaphor. I love the strangeness that comes when people get so lost in a game that the game becomes the world. Because you do get lost like that. Especially in something like Minecraft, that's so endless. You're actually startled to come back into your life at the end of it. So I wanted to play with that moment, where you're between two worlds, and for a short little period you're not sure which one is more real.

 

[SparxGaming12]

Having multiple space time continuums in a single one doesn’t equate to it being higher dimensional by default. You also need supporting evidence such as there being an uncountable infinite number of Tier 2 worlds, or it being stated to be a higher plane of existence via reality-fiction.

while I personally think Tier 1 Minecraft has some legitimacy, the wiki removed the Real World Player key (ie, the key that had them at 2-B) due to an interview with the writer, who called it a metaphor.

I dont know much about that website but is that reliable source?
+ In that statement he said "but its really a stroy of a dream of a game" i am little bit confused here is he saying that steve views the game itself as dream?

 

[TheGatememer]

I dont know much about that website but is that reliable source?
+ In that statement he said "but its really a stroy of a dream of a game" i am little bit confused here is he saying that steve views the game itself as dream?

I mean, it’s an interview of the poet.

He views “dream” as a metaphor.

 

[SparxGaming12]

I mean, it’s an interview of the poet.

He views “dream” as a metaphor.

No i dont think so it just says "dream as metaphor" and no more context on it but if you look at first line it says "but it's really a story about the dream of a game" so steve views the entire game as dream? That interview is confusing asf

 

[Thelastmlg]

he doesn't view the game as a view, dream is a metaphor as he said after calling the game's a dream, sounds more like a metaphor about the actual players getting immersed in the game, rather than a separate entity being a player and literally dreaming the game

 

[ImmortalDread]

Bro want to get high 1-B with this
First prove that the player can destroy infinite space-continuum which you can't obviously since you need infinite time to do so. So hypothetical, at maximum, 2-B.

+ viewing the world as dream is obviously metaphor and the author explicitly stated this. Does not need interpretation or different POV at a such straightforward statement.

Omnipresence? Lmfao

 

[SparxGaming12]

Bro want to get high 1-B with this
First prove that the player can destroy infinite space-continuum which you can't obviously since you need infinite time to do so. So hypothetical, at maximum, 2-B.

+ viewing the world as dream is obviously metaphor and the author explicitly stated this. Does not need interpretation or different POV at a such straightforward statement.

Omnipresence? Lmfao

The player isn't even tier 3 in vsbw wdym 2B

 

[SparxGaming12]

Btw minecraft has 3 separate spacetime in a single world = 4D and the higher beings who are higher dimensional for the minecraft entire world should be 5D and if the player views them as mere text and trancend them won't that make him 6D?

Bro want to get high 1-B with this
First prove that the player can destroy infinite space-continuum which you can't obviously since you need infinite time to do so. So hypothetical, at maximum, 2-B.

+ viewing the world as dream is obviously metaphor and the author explicitly stated this. Does not need interpretation or different POV at a such straightforward statement.

Omnipresence? Lmfao

What's your opinion in this