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let assume a character have 1-A hax that can negate high godly regen,a character B have high-godly regen and resist negate HG with massively layer,so can A kill B ?
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about high godly regen
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i need this question be answer quick
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No it's a NLF to assume High-Godly Resistance of a lower dimension can resist Negation of a Higher-Dimension, that goes way beyond any countable or uncountably infinite number of layers. So yes A can kill B
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Regen Negation is just like any other hax, someone with 5 layers of Resistance to 85D Soul Hax can't resist basic 86D Soul Hax, 100+ Layers of 4D Resistance to Resistance Negation can't resist a High 1-B Power negating their resistances, and the same would go for regeneration negation.
Seriously imagine a Character that exists beyond dimensions using their powers and not being able to overpower the lower dimensional resistances of a character beyond infinitely weaker and less complex than them and their hax.
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i mean the guy tell me dante edmon in fate have 1-A hax that can even kill being have high-godly regen,from that he said dante can also negate other character high godly regen even if they have massively layer resist to negate high godly regen
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so what can A kill B since there are conflicting opinions in here
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no he wouldn't. as regeneration negation isn't a thing bound by dimensionality. as technically speaking the regeneration of a 1-A being would be no different than that of a 3D being, as regeneration does not get more complex the higher dimensional you are. it's still the same thing just covers more range
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so the premise here :
A have HGR Negation
B have HGR and HGR negation Resistance with many layers
Can A kill B ?
the answers is no, since regen does not tied to dimensionality stuff unless specified otherwise.
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bump,need more input
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this is...........really subjective.............sure regeneration is not something you can measure based on dimensionality but again if we look at it from different perspective, regeneration or immortality negation is just a.......specific type of power nullification that specifically target at regeneration / immortality, and we can apply dimensionality to power nullification, so in this sense sure you can somewhat apply dimensionality to regeneration negation indirectly
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Regeneration isn't based on Dimensionality, but the negation of it is. If we say that Regeneration Negation is not based on negation then someone with 11-C Regeneration Negation of High-Godly would be just as effective as someone with Tier 0 Regeneration Negation of High-Godly, the sheer difference in power behind FORCING someone not to be able to regenerate should be a clear enough indicator.
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Yeah actually, 11-C regeneration negation would be as effective (should it have range). Because pumping more power into a negation doesn't make it better when what your negating isn't tied to level of existence to begin with.
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That's weird...
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Yeah. I suppose maybe an exception would be for reality-fiction differences specifically and even that's just due to the weirdness of that type of transcendence rather than regeneration and its negation being transcendence based. And even that isn't something I'm sure of.
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I actually think it goes the inverse. Of course, generally understanding the mechanics of all involved should provide the clearest answer but I thought we generally go with the assumption that once you get to potency like that of 2-C and greater with most abilities, resistance has to match that level in order to be considered usable.
Because while assuming either is an assumption, I would think the assumption of five or ten layers of resistance to just regeneration negation being able to negate the powers of an entity whose powers are at the point that they're considered a higher tier of infinity is much bigger to make than the inverse.
Because while assuming either is an assumption, I would think the assumption of five or ten layers of resistance to just regeneration negation being able to negate the powers of an entity whose powers are at the point that they're considered a higher tier of infinity is much bigger to make than the inverse.
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i would say it's default assumption unless stated otherwise...
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Thing is though, this isn't really most abilities. With mind-hax, soul-hax etc. you can make the argument that the things affected are of a higher dimensional/higher order state of existence. Regeneration and its levels are well and truly the same whether your as big as a car or a brane cosmology. So the whole higher orders of existence performing a general Regeneration Negation wouldn't really change much.
Granted, if the Regeneration Negation is done via stuff like law-hax, info manip etc. then that's just exercising another power to cause the effect in which case it should be fair game to judge by layers and such. Not when it's merely "can stop X from regenerating".
Granted, if the Regeneration Negation is done via stuff like law-hax, info manip etc. then that's just exercising another power to cause the effect in which case it should be fair game to judge by layers and such. Not when it's merely "can stop X from regenerating".
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