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It counts...but not enough to debunk at all.And one scene still counts, no matter how many more there are.
Who said anything about energy transference? I’m talking about pushing shit around like the examples that he gave, and I’m giving
7A for...?So for the thread as long as its explained well I think "At most 7-A" works as a justification. Though if we are getting rid of their SoL/FTL ratings what are we making their speed?
If we get rid of it, they’d just scale to or upscale from MHS+So for the thread as long as its explained well I think "At most 7-A" works as a justification. Though if we are getting rid of their SoL/FTL ratings what are we making their speed?
Or sub-relativistic.If we get rid of it, they’d just scale to or upscale from MHS+
From what? Ying's calc is accepted for the low-endOr sub-relativistic.
If there was other feats of that kind, then sub-relativistic can be used it says in the conclusion.From what? Ying's calc is accepted for the low-end
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Is this stuff correct?Though if we are getting rid of their SoL/FTL ratings what are we making their speed?
Points for
Points directly against
- Ying states that BBB Solar's attack is sunlight (supported by the plant monster liking it)
- They seem to come from a realistic source (light element gains power from a star's light)
- They're shown to cause explosions and have physical force (BBB Light pushed Vargoba back/Vargoba pushed back due to the force of BBB Solar's attack/Retak'ka pushed Hang Kasa back)
- They do not reflect off Vargoba's shield realistically
Sir Ovens isn't a calc group member and he can't evaluate his own calc. Zanybrainy2000 is a (former) calc group member and he agreed with the low-endIf there was other feats of that kind, then sub-relativistic can be used it says in the conclusion.
I mean he agreed to sirovens conclusion.Sir Ovens isn't a calc group member and he can't evaluate his own calc. Zanybrainy2000 is a (former) calc group member and he agreed with the low-end
Yeah. To use a game example a weapon like the laser rifle from Fallout would be a SoL item:Is this stuff correct?
Please just let them read the entire thread itself. Your summary is like 1 day outdated.Is this stuff correct?
No?I mean he agreed to sirovens conclusion.
The calculation looks fine to me, and I agree with the low-end.
Alright, thanksYeah. To use a game example a weapon like the laser rifle from Fallout would be a SoL item:
Causing explosions and splitting like that are points against a SoL speed rating.
- Its stated as using light beams
- Its from a """scientific/real""" source
- The beams are hit scan
- The beams refract and reflect
There's an argument that I made specifically stating that objects or people are pushed, crushed after a person rams into it are due to the momentum transferred.Yeah. To use a game example a weapon like the laser rifle from Fallout would be a SoL item:
Causing explosions and splitting like that are points against a SoL speed rating.
- Its stated as using light beams
- Its from a """scientific/real""" source
- The beams are hit scan
- The beams refract and reflect
Light has a momentum of 9.47 * 10^-28 kilogram force. That is so absolutely tiny that we cannot even physically record it, it has to be from minute displacement in the object or cooling down other atoms. Even solid beams have negative amounts of momentum unless they reach planetary sizes like with Gamma Ray Bursts. So a beam with a width of a foot or so would not carry enough momentum to knock any normal human over.The only way to debunk the "momentum" argument is by showing that when getting hit or exposed to the light beam, the object in question doesn't get pushed in the direction of the beam.
Fair enough, but pretty much almost all of fiction, depicts light beams as being able to damage things but rarely push things back. Besides that, there was only one scene where the light acted abnormally compared to many many others. So his point about unrealistic reflection and refraction is irrelevant if there's only that one antifeat. Tho for BoBoiBoy's light to carry that much momentum in such a small scale maybe pushing the envelope a little too far.Light has a momentum of 9.47 * 10^-28 kilogram force. That is so absolutely tiny that we cannot even physically record it, it has to be from minute displacement in the object or cooling down other atoms. Even solid beams have negative amounts of momentum unless they reach planetary sizes like with Gamma Ray Bursts. So a beam with a width of a foot or so would not carry enough momentum to knock any normal human over.
Qawsed already agreed with the points that I gave. And that scene of unrealistic reflection is more than enough to support unrealistic light. It's not even just a single random beam that reflects unrealistically. There are numerous beams in the scene that don't reflect realisticallydo not adjust the profiles just yet, a conclusion has not been reached.
doesn't mean that there was a conclusion made, besides that, you just went and redone the entire profiles, removed keys, changed keys and stats without a CRT for that purpose man. :/Qawsed already agreed with the points that I gave
The only profile I removed keys for is BBB, and if you bothered to read my sandbox at all, I merged the OS and Movie keys into one, and the Galaxy and Movie 2 keys into one. This CRT is for that purpose :/doesn't mean that there was a conclusion made, besides that, you just went and redone the entire profiles, removed keys, changed keys and stats without a CRT for that purpose man. :/
why didn't you make a CRT for it? Also, stop adjusting the speed ratings of the page unless a conclusion is reached.The only profile I removed keys for is BBB, and if you bothered to read my sandbox at all, I merged the OS and Movie keys into one, and the Galaxy and Movie 2 keys into one
Because there's a lot of shit that I wanted to change and it was all reflected in the sandbox I madewhy didn't you make a CRT for it?
Then make a CRTBecause there's a lot of shit that I wanted to change and it was all reflected in the sandbox I made
you need more than one agreement to apply the removal, besides that stop being pumped up about this. give the CRT sometime to reach a conclusion or we might have to nuke the profiles wit SoL ratings like what happened to Wukong's.That's what part of this CRT is for. I'm doing the same thing as this one but with other stuff like OS scaling and removing SoL/FTL ratings because shit disqualifies realistic light behaviour
This says cleaning up BoBoiBoy's page but it takes me to a sandbox for a Thanos profile.
This all looks fine.Original Series Scaling
- Fang's Tier 1 powers scale to BoBoiBoy's Tier 2 Elements, which will upgrade him to 7-A as well
- BoBoiBoy Water, one of his Tier 1 elements, was able to blast back and slightly harm Fang, and using his Tier 1 Lightning Element powers, BBB briefly contended against Fang's Shadow Tiger. Since T1 powers are generally supposed to be weaker than T2 powers, I'd suggest that BoBoiBoy's First Tier Transformations would be "At most 7-A", especially since Fang wasn't that badly affected by BoBoiBoy Water's attack
- Yaya and Ying were able to take attacks from Lieutenant Lahap, who currently scales to Captain Kaizo, but since they are portrayed as weaker, their OS keys should be "At most 7-A"
I'll check this out when I can.My issue with the Speed of Light rating
Qawsed points out that while BoBoiBoy's light element seems to be based on sunlight, its depictions don't show it behaving like realistic light all that much. In my opinion, it feels iffy for BoBoiBoy to keep his Speed of Light and FTL rating (not to mention other stuff I brought up about the calc in the comments) and I think it should be removed
I think I fixed itThis says cleaning up BoBoiBoy's page but it takes me to a sandbox for a Thanos profile.
It’s basically this that I summarised later. Qawsed stated that they are all correct:I'll check this out when I can.
To somewhat copy Qawsed's format:
Points for
Points directly against
- Ying states that BBB Solar's attack is sunlight (supported by the plant monster liking it)
- They seem to come from a realistic source (light element gains power from a star's light)
- They're shown to cause explosions and have physical force (BBB Light pushed Vargoba back/Vargoba pushed back due to the force of BBB Solar's attack/Retak'ka pushed Hang Kasa back)
- They do not reflect off Vargoba's shield realistically
@LordGriffin1000To somewhat copy Qawsed's format:
Points for
Points directly against
- Ying states that BBB Solar's attack is sunlight (supported by the plant monster liking it)
- They seem to come from a realistic source (light element gains power from a star's light) and have shown multiple instances of realistic refection and refraction of light in many other fights
- They're shown to cause explosions and have transferred an unrealistic amount of momentum that can only be achieved on a cosmic scale (BBB Light pushed Vargoba back/Vargoba pushed back due to the momentum of BBB Solar's photonic attack / Retak'ka pushed Hang Kasa back)
- They did not reflect off Vargoba's shield realistically in this one scene when many others do
The updated profile looks good.I think I fixed it
GreatIf it has more feats of it reflecting in a more realistic manner than they should outweigh the anti-feat.
There aren’t that many more reflection scenes, and this is a big one where there are numerous beams that don’t reflect realisticallyIf it has more feats of it reflecting in a more realistic manner than they should outweigh the anti-feat.
Still. That big one is still one scene.There aren’t that many more reflection scenes, and this is a big one where there are numerous beams that don’t reflect realistically