History's Strongest Adolescent vs Humanity's Strongest Swordsman

[Greatsage13th]

Buddha (Record of Ragnarok)

The only one that can move me, on heaven or Earth, is me. Buddha is Humanity's representative in the sixth round of Ragnarok, going against Zerofuku, despite initially being listed as a representative for the gods. Buddha is a prominent deity and the leader of the Buddhist Pantheon, being the...

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Sasaki Kojirou (Record of Ragnarok)

One of the famous swordsmen from Japan and known as the History's Greatest Loser. This particular version of him has never won a fight in the history of Japan, but this is due to the fact that once he has developed an exact strategy on how to beat someone he never chooses to challenge them...

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SBA assumed

 

[Greatsage13th]

Bump

 

[Greatsage13th]

Kapoof

 

[RedGX]

Assuming that Buddha goes serious at the start of the fight, then he could maybe wins.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Assuming that Buddha goes serious at the start of the fight, then yeah he probably wins.

Could you explain?

 

[Greatsage13th]

kapoof

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Not sure, maybe Buddha but saski could possibly adapt to his future sight

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Kojiro scans and slaps. 5 secs of precog doesn’t beat being able to neg thousands of attacks that blitz the shit outta you.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Kojiro scans and slaps. 5 secs of precog doesn’t beat being able to neg thousands of attacks that blitz the shit outta you.

Buddha would know about all of kojirou's moves if Kojirou can't cover his soul's radiance tho.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

He doesn’t need to cover that. He is massively more skilled than Buddha while Buddha’s best precog feat is weaving Zero who had no skill and just threw a temper tantrum. Compare this to Kojiro who out predicted Poseidon who out predicted Kojiro’s TDI pre-Revolund. He’s already fought and slapped somebody who blitzes him several times over and can perfectly predict opponents massively more skilled than Buddha, Zero and Hajun combined 10,000 steps ahead just from seeing them walk and breath.

 

[Greatsage13th]

He doesn’t need to cover that. He is massively more skilled than Buddha while Buddha’s best precog feat is weaving Zero who had no skill and just threw a temper tantrum. Compare this to Kojiro who out predicted Poseidon who out predicted Kojiro’s TDI pre-Revolund. He’s already fought and slapped somebody who blitzes him several times over and can perfectly predict opponents massively more skilled than Buddha, Zero and Hajun combined 10,000 steps ahead just from seeing them walk and breath.

I know Sasaki Kojirou is far superior to Buddha in combat but however if he tries anything, his soul would move first and Buddha would just dodge wherever his soul is at. He might as well just do that endlessly until Sasaki tires out while Buddha is in peak condition, assuming this continues to happen for more than several hours.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Kapoof

 

[Greatsage13th]

@AnonymousBlank

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Being able to see the light of Kojiro’s soul’s movement doesn’t matter as we have seen Buddha fail to dodge Zero’s attacks before and be forced to block so it isn’t any stretch of a guarantee. Unless you have speed scaling for Buddha being way faster than Poseidon, Kojiro will just kill him like he did to somebody that blitzed Buddha’s speed 3 times over. Even blocking does nothing as Re-Volund was slicing through Poseidon’s Trident and will do the same here to Six Realms as neither weapon have anything making them better than the other.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Being able to see the light of Kojiro’s soul’s movement doesn’t matter as we have seen Buddha fail to dodge Zero’s attacks before and be forced to block

Not questioning any results here, but isnt that because Zero unleashed a giant attack, so Buddha had no choice but to block? My memory may be playing tricks on me though.

so it isn’t any stretch of a guarantee. Unless you have speed scaling for Buddha being way faster than Poseidon, Kojiro will just kill him like he did to somebody that blitzed Buddha’s speed 3 times over. Even blocking does nothing as Re-Volund was slicing through Poseidon’s Trident and will do the same here to Six Realms as neither weapon have anything making them better than the other.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Not questioning any results here, but isnt that because Zero unleashed a giant attack, so Buddha had no choice but to block? My memory may be playing tricks on me though.

It is. Zero dropped that giant spiked mallet/axe thing and Buddha swapped to his shield Realm. Point I’m making is that he doesn’t just weave everything and Kojiro’s skill is enough to beat a blitz several times faster than that. Poseidon was stated to have filled the arena with afterimages instantly which is as good as Zero’s aoe attack if not far better. Kojiro being able to beat that with his skill is enough to say he can beat Buddha’s precog as Poseidon is fast enough to dodge the very same thing that Buddha couldn’t.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Being able to see the light of Kojiro’s soul’s movement doesn’t matter as we have seen Buddha fail to dodge Zero’s attacks before and be forced to block so it isn’t any stretch of a guarantee. Unless you have speed scaling for Buddha being way faster than Poseidon, Kojiro will just kill him like he did to somebody that blitzed Buddha’s speed 3 times over. Even blocking does nothing as Re-Volund was slicing through Poseidon’s Trident and will do the same here to Six Realms as neither weapon have anything making them better than the other.

You know Kojiro doesn't have a tournament stage wide attack right...and...nlf to assume Kojirou could break six realms staff. We all know that Poseidon's Trident is nowhere as durable and Kojirou's katanas are not as powerful as Hajun's strength.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

You know Kojiro doesn't have a tournament stage wide attack right...

He doesn’t need to have one. His skill can already let him hit somebody with better precog than Buddha’s that performs a bigger AOE attack than Zero’s through sheer speed.

and...nlf to assume Kojirou could break six realms staff. We all know that Poseidon's Trident is nowhere as durable and Kojirou's katanas are not as powerful as Hajun's strength.

So 1. It isn’t NLF at all. I didn’t do anything of the sort.
2. Maybe sources for the random statements of how strong characters and items are in regards to each other when the manga says nothing of the sort?

 

[Greatsage13th]

He doesn’t need to have one. His skill can already let him hit somebody with better precog than Buddha’s that performs a bigger AOE attack than Zero’s through sheer speed.

So 1. It isn’t NLF at all. I didn’t do anything of the sort.
2. Maybe sources for the random statements of how strong characters and items are in regards to each other when the manga says nothing of the sort?

Elaborate, visually it looks fast but all we know is that this is just subsonic. Gods and humans with Volund generally scale to ftl speeds, so the better Aoe can be disregarded. Buddha also can't be considered slower than Poseidon without actual confirmation.

Poseidon is generally comparable to other gods such as Shiva who could destroy the world on a whim. Hajun on the other hand with a weak body could destroy half of helheim, which seems to impress the more powerful gods more than what Shiva could do.

 

[Greatsage13th]

bump

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Elaborate, visually it looks fast but all we know is that this is just subsonic. Gods and humans with Volund generally scale to ftl speeds, so the better Aoe can be disregarded. Buddha also can't be considered slower than Poseidon without actual confirmation.

Poseidon is generally comparable to other gods such as Shiva who could destroy the world on a whim. Hajun on the other hand with a weak body could destroy half of helheim, which seems to impress the more powerful gods more than what Shiva could do.

posiden was FTE to Ares from the very beginning of the fight and he did so casually. Only Zeus with his time punch and Hermes have been able to accomplish that. This would imply his massively faster then most of the gods that have gone in the ring

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Elaborate, visually it looks fast but all we know is that this is just subsonic.

You think filling an arena that can seat 100 billion+ people with afterimages is only subsonic? Like … crossing the arena alone is already better than that, bare minimum.

Gods and humans with Volund generally scale to ftl speeds, so the better Aoe can be disregarded.

Literally no. Buddha couldn’t dodge aoe of that level from someone comparable to him, Poseidon blitzed all of the FTL gods so hard they were seeing afterimages just by trying a bit.

Buddha also can't be considered slower than Poseidon without actual confirmation.

Yes, yes he can. Nobody had issues perceiving Buddha vs Zero or Buddha vs Hajun. This is the case for every fight besides Thor vs Lu Bu and Poseidon vs Kojiro. The former has Heimdall stating he can barely keep up with their movements while the latter has every person in the stands seeing afterimages. Poseidon is objectively the fastest god by feats and to think otherwise is an absolutely bizarre take. Outside of those two, we only have the time punch.

Poseidon is generally comparable to other gods such as Shiva who could destroy the world on a whim.

Poseidon is comparable to Shiva? Wot? Shiva gets bullied by old man Zeus while Poseidon can fight the same enemies buff Zeus did in both Machys, has every other god sans Hades (and that’s cuz he loves his bros more than anything else) pissed scared. Shiva is basically the runt of the gods lineup and everyone else so far would smack him no problem.

Hajun on the other hand with a weak body could destroy half of helheim, which seems to impress the more powerful gods more than what Shiva could do.

And how large is Helheim? Cuz unless you got a statement for how large it is or if it’s comparable to other realms, it’s unquantifiable and useless. All the other gods upscale from Shiva besides Zero.