SCP Kaijus Revision

[Lou_change]

No but still uses an unknown amount of energy J would prefer if we used actual feats most I remember are just destroying buildings like the crocsquid destroying a Prometheus Labs building I think one threaten to sink a cruise ship(the same one took a hit from HECOR I should probably reread SCP-5001) and another caused a volcano to erupt after walking up.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah "Unknown amount of energy" should not be assumed to be an 8-A amount of energy. When this thing is not flying it should only passively use energy for movement and very arguably the Weight Sink thingies. We have no reasons to assume either of these would take 8-A levels of energy.

The volcano feat could be higher than 8-A, but I'm not sure how to calc that.

 

[Lou_change]

Yeah "Unknown amount of energy" should not be assumed to be an 8-A amount of energy. When this thing is not flying it should only passively use energy for movement and very arguably the Weight Sink thingies. We have no reasons to assume either of these would take 8-A levels of energy.

The volcano feat could be higher than 8-A, but I'm not sure how to calc that.

I agree don't get me wrong if was in pretty much any other body shape I would agree but it is humanoid and realizes on sword swings for attacks which effective yes but not the most energy efficient and it also is doing different things at different times yet it isn't overloading with energy or running low it is rather stable. I guess it can stay until we find something more specific. Also rereading the first part of ANASTASIS it directly references Academics apologies for being so stubborn about the canon thing I was wrong.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

My brother in christ the thing requires an 8-A amount of energy to even stand. If you're comparing it to a humanoid, less than 5% of its power would go into anything other than moving. It doesn't have a brain, the pilots are doing all the thinking for it. It also doesn't have a heart or a digestive track. Literally more than half of what a human uses energy for, the Dragonslayer doesn't.

And this isn't even mentioning how again, you have to prove a positive. Show us where it's stated the Dragonslayer uses more energy for its mundane processes than punching power.

 

[Lou_change]

And this isn't even mentioning how again, you have to prove a positive. Show us where it's stated the Dragonslayer uses more energy for its mundane processes than punching

That is not what I am trying to prove I simply disagree with saying it should scale one to one to it's energy when it isn't possible for it to just use that energy for punching(not that it ever throws a punch) seems fine as a place holder but if other feats don't support it I doubt it's reliable on it's own.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

"when it isn't possible for it to just use that energy for punching"

Random statement with no proof or elaboration. Why do you think they would use a robot that uses several orders of magnitude more energy to simply exist than the energy it uses to attack (aka its main purpose)? Or a robot so inefficient that the damage output it uses is several orders of magnitude lesser than the energy that goes into the attack?

You propose random nitpicky ideas that are not only without proofs and basically based on gut feeling, but also just inherently do not work.

 

[Lou_change]

I think I found a feat "a series of seismic events — including tsunamis, underwater and above-ground volcanic activity, and ground tremors — resulted in the surfacing of LSA-02 through LSA-09." Alright I know it said the earthquakes caused them to surface but other context such as "its awakening resulted in the eruption of Mount Stromboli and complete destruction of the island." Referring to LSA-Stromboli-08 and "The final issue with the project will be metaphysical. It is possible — although not suspected to be likely — that the revival of the C. gigantis will result in a global EVE cascade event that will awaken and/or rejuvenate various other Large Scale Aggressors." From the first article of the canonical order.

 

[Lou_change]

After Googling http://itic.ioc-unesco.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1158&Itemid=2026

Why Do Some Earthquakes Cause Tsunamis But Others Don't?

A devastating 8.9-magnitude earthquake rocked the east coast of Honshu, Japan, early Friday morning, triggering a 30-foot-high tsunami that has caused the U.S. National Weather Service to issue a warning for at least 50 countries.

www.livescience.com

Magnitude 7 to 7.5 seems to be where tsunamis appear I really doubt the Foundation would mention them if they weren't serious ones and those scale to Large Town level and Small City level respectively which is interesting.
Stromboli, Italy's area is 12.6 square kilometres if we take it literally and causing and eruption doesn't look very impressive Mount Stromboli is consistently active as is so IDK.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Remember that the eruption caused by the Kaiju destroyed the island completely. It's definitively far higher than any eruptions that ever happened there. It'd definitively be the highest feat we can get for these guys.

 

[Lou_change]

It feel that is vague could be the best feat but completely destroyed could probably mean wipe it of life anyway do you think the tsunami thing is notable

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I think 8-A is a nice lowball for now and we can give the mech a higher rating when someone decides to clac its other feats.

 

[Lou_change]

It scales to monsters that cause tsunamis I found the type of earthquake required to make them and we already have cals for earthquakes why can't we use that also to further disprove island destruction do this part of the description of the LSA "Due to the danger of approaching LSA-Stromboli-08, the entity has remained undisturbed on the island, spending a significant portion of its time following its appearance in a state of rest." It can't be on the island if it was destroyed.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Really not a fan of using the very vague notion of generic earthquakes and tsunamis happening as a feat here.

Although honestly I'd rather just proceed with the changes until someone can actually get a good value.

 

[Lou_change]

Tsunamis aren't that vague unless we high ball them

 

[Lou_change]

It would also be consistent with the Foundation not just nuking them

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

ignoring all of them having conceptual defenses that required them to use the mech in the first place

Also tsunamis can be made with things other than earthquakes. I doubt we can get a good number here. So unless you can get us one, we'll have to make do with 8-A.

 

[Lou_change]

Also tsunamis can be made with things other than earthquakes. I doubt we can get a good number here. So unless you can get us one, we'll have to make do with 8-A.

Yes but most commonly and best fitting the context such as “On 1998/06/30, a series of seismic events — including tsunamis, underwater and above-ground volcanic activity, and ground tremors” it was probably and earthquake which caused it also.
“The entity is pierced by four Anti-Thaumatologic Cannons. Considerable damage is dealt before LSA-Wake-02 destroys a cannon by bludgeoning it with half of the fishing vessel.” “HECOR fires, destroying a large portion of LSA-Wake-02. The entity immediately begins regenerating” from Incident Wake-02-B they can be damaged it is just they regenerate too fast a nuke would vaporize them if they weren’t comparable a feat which they haven’t showed the ability to recover from.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

At this point you're just stonewalling the revision.

they can be damaged it is just they regenerate too fast a nuke would vaporize them if they weren’t comparable a feat which they haven’t showed the ability to recover from.

This is a massive assumption since they didn't even attempt to launch a nuke at it.

I don't even know what you want at this point. Because according to you, the kaiju can cause earthquakes and tsunamis but can't tank a nuke. One or the other. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Lou_change]

At this point you're just stonewalling the revision.



This is a massive assumption since they didn't even attempt to launch a nuke at it.

I don't even know what you want at this point. Because according to you, the kaiju can cause earthquakes and tsunamis but can't tank a nuke. One or the other. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

No I am saying if we don’t assume that they can’t take a nuke that is why they should scale

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Wh-

What? You do realize the tsunami/earthquake feat will yield something above a nuke, yes?

 

[Lou_change]

Yes that is what I am saying if we assume the only scale to 1% of SCP-037’s power then they would do very well

 

[Sir_Ovens]

It's a lowball? Unless you can produce a solid number out of the feats presented, it's the best we got for now.

 

[Lou_change]

We literally have earthquake energy chart unless we assume something unreasonably doesn’t it at least warrant a possibility 7-C tier

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Can you just stop.

The Foundation used anomalous weaponry to damage the kaijus, not normal weapons.

The Earthquakes just kinda happened when the Kaijus rose up. I really don't know if anything implies a singular one did it or how it's been done. The ritual used for the summoning could have triggered them for all we know.

 

[Lou_change]

Fine I’ll fix it later

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Aight I'm done editing the pages. Take it away.