Spider-Man vs Po (Marvel Comics vs Kung Fu Panda) (GRACE)

[sanicspood]

Spider-Man (Marvel Comics)

Peter Benjamin Parker, more well-known as Spider-Man, was once just a nerdy teenager in High School. But after he was bitten by a radioactive spider at a science exhibition, he gained the proportionate strength, speed, and agility of a spider alongside a special precognitive ability known as the...

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Po (Kung Fu Panda)

Tier: 8-C | At least 8-C | At least 8-C, likely up to High 8-C. 7-C with Hero's Chi | At least 8-C, likely High 8-C. At least 7-C with Mastery of Chi | At least 8-B, likely 7-C. At least 7-C with Mastery of Chi Key: Kung Fu Panda | Kung Fu Panda 2 | Legends of Awesomeness | Kung Fu Panda 3 |...

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The battle of the high 8-c Deku crushers!!! (relax its a joke)
base spidey vs Post-KFP2/Legends of Awesomeness Po is used (both are high 8-c)
speed equal

parker: 7

po:

incon:

inb4 stomp

 

[The_Impress]

Webs gg? Po's 4.6 x 10^7 vs. Spidey's 5 x 10^8 , that's an LS gap of 10x

 

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[shansome]

Webs gg? Po's 4.6 x 10^7 vs. Spidey's 5 x 10^8 , that's an LS gap of 10x

Can we make an argument for Po having a skill advantage?

 

[The_Impress]

Can we make an argument for Po having a skill advantage?

Don’t think so, Spider-Man nulled combat advantage of a skilled fighter who literally knew everything that was ever gonna happen in a fight due to their broken precognition, and turned it into an infinite inconclusive, by sheer fighting skill, not to mention the decade of heavily varied battle experience he possesses.

And I don’t believe Spidey ever really sticks around for melee regardless, he either does hit-and-run, or just ranged webspam.

 

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[rawXDglomp]

Can we make an argument for Po having a skill advantage?

Nah I think spider sense and spideys own skill kinda negs it.

 

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[shansome]

isn't this a stomp for spidey
not hearing any new arguments

 

[sanicspood]

cant he still bfr and seal?

 

[SuperDino85]

cant he still bfr and seal?

I believe that requires Po to actually grab Spidey’s finger first.

 

[sanicspood]

both of the hax?

 

[shansome]

cant he still bfr and seal?

He needs to actually land the skaDOOSH though. I mean spidey wouldn't be expecting it, but I still don't think that's an easy move to use.

 

[sanicspood]

but its still possible to land right? that shouldn't make it a stomp

 

[SuperDino85]

but its still possible to land right? that shouldn't make it a stomp

Yeah it’s possible, just restricted to melee range to use cause Po needs to grab Spidey’s finger and flex his own pinky to do it.

 

[SuperDino85]

This is Awesomeness Po though so doesn’t he have access to the fluttering finger mindslip?

 

[shansome]

This is Awesomeness Po though so doesn’t he have access to the fluttering finger mindslip?

what is the fluttering finger mindslip?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Didn't he literally wipe his own mind of that ability because he kept abusing it?

 

[The_Impress]

He needs to actually land the skaDOOSH though. I mean spidey wouldn't be expecting it, but I still don't think that's an easy move to use.

… I mean he would be expecting it. Spider-Sense exists.

And Spidey just needs to web him up, something he does as an opening move.

 

[SuperDino85]

Didn't he literally wipe his own mind of that ability because he kept abusing it?

Yeah but I think it was just because the Furious Five wanted to know if it worked, so he tried it on himself

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

This is Awesomeness Po though so doesn’t he have access to the fluttering finger mindslip?

Yes, however it’s considered an optional ability and using it normally only causes short-term memory loss

 

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[shansome]

are there any more arguments for Po that we've missed? I haven't actually seen the show just watched the movies

 

[SuperDino85]

I actually have another question.

It would be unconventional as heck but if Po were stuck in Spidey’s webs, would he be able to skadoosh himself and then return shortly after to escape the webs?

 

[shansome]

I actually have another question.

It would be unconventional as heck but if Po were stuck in Spidey’s webs, would he be able to skadoosh himself and then return shortly after to escape the webs?

I'm pretty sure he can't skadoosh himself, only skadoosh someone while holding them to come with.

 

[The_Impress]

Yeah points for Po are hella dumb and wankish, voting Spidey if it’s not clear

 

[SuperDino85]

Yeah points for Po are hella dumb and wankish, voting Spidey if it’s not clear

I’m sorry but out of curiosity why are they dumb and wankish?

 

[The_Impress]

I’m sorry but out of curiosity why are they dumb and wankish?

I actually have another question.

It would be unconventional as heck but if Po were stuck in Spidey’s webs, would he be able to skadoosh himself and then return shortly after to escape the webs?

Inventing mechanics where they are not

And then you have the weirdass claim that Po can lock Spider-Man in anything and seal him.

 

[SuperDino85]

Inventing mechanics where they are not

And then you have the weirdass claim that Po can lock Spider-Man in anything and seal him.

Okay that ONE idea was a bit much, I’ll admit that, I only suggested it cause Po is something of an unconventional fighter and comes up with his own stuff to begin with.

Not sure what you mean with the second part though. Are you referring to the Wuxi finger hold sending Spider-Man to the spirit realm and calling THAT a wankish point?

 

[rawXDglomp]

Asking if Po can do a thing is not inventing mechanics. Its asking. A lot of people are simply going off the profiles and don't know exact limits on how powers work. He didn't say 'po can escape webs', he said 'can he', to ask people who know.

 

[The_Impress]

Not sure what you mean with the second part though. Are you referring to the Wuxi finger hold sending Spider-Man to the spirit realm and calling THAT a wankish point?

The finger hold is dumb, yeah, given Spider-Man has higher LS and very blatantly stated precog on his file against stuff like that. It'll just won't happen.

So yeah, those are the only two points brought up, and they fit the bill.

Asking if Po can do a thing is not inventing mechanics. Its asking. A lot of people are simply going off the profiles and don't know exact limits on how powers work. He didn't say 'po can escape webs', he said 'can he', to ask people who know.

Framing doesn't matter when you're just making up these wildly presumptive techniques off of established powers unmentioned anywhere, that's just improper debate tactic first and foremost. Like literally, in the scenario where the answer was yes, he CAN do that, sure, WOULD HE is a factor that matters.

I'm not bringing up Mark of Kaine here for a reasoning either, or something made up like "Spider-Man makes a web barrier arund his vicinity so Po literally can't do anything to him", the characters haven't relevantly thought of shit like this, it's OOC

 

[sanicspood]

Yeah points for Po are hella dumb and wankish, voting Spidey if it’s not clear

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