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Well why don't we just say he can lead with transmuation?he doesn't, but kirby doesn't lead with transmutation, unless we are talking about his suck-up which won't work due to sonic's immeasurable LS
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Well why don't we just say he can lead with transmuation?he doesn't, but kirby doesn't lead with transmutation, unless we are talking about his suck-up which won't work due to sonic's immeasurable LS
because both are in character and they never do it in character. We could bloodlust kirby to try and make this more fair but idk if it'll work out as bloodlust makes characters go for their strongest attacks and use the fastest ways to win and Kirby would use something else.Well why don't we just say he can lead with transmuation?
Sonic has NPI (Non-Physical Interaction), so he can just kill Ghost Kirby as wellHe turns into Ghost Kirby when he "dies" thus being able to revive himself, also that doesn't mean he can't
So can Ghost Kirby, actually, dependsSonic has NPI (Non-Physical Interaction), so he can just kill Ghost Kirby as well
...how come, proof? What would Kirby use? And that's what I'm doing, since no one else will.because both are in character and they never do it in character. We could bloodlust kirby to try and make this more fair but idk if it'll work out as bloodlust makes characters go for their strongest attacks and use the fastest ways to win and Kirby would use something else.
Also, pretty sure kirby has no access to copy abilities in this key
nah it doesn't, he can't possess sonic, he could just get punched and die.So can Ghost Kirby, actually, depends
He can possess Sonic... I said depends on resistance, also pretty sure Kirby doesn't die from just punchesnah it doesn't, he can't possess sonic, he could just get punched and die.
Kirby dies from just punches when those punches have the power to destroy hundreds of universesHe can possess Sonic... I said depends on resistance, also pretty sure Kirby doesn't die from just punches
proof is literally any game. Give me one game where kirby leads with transmutation attacks that isn't his suck up. Being in character means acting like they do in their stories and kirby never does this in stories....how come, proof? What would Kirby use? And that's what I'm doing, since no one else will.
Kirby's possession is baseline and Sonic can resist baseline posessionHe can possess Sonic... I said depends on resistance, also pretty sure Kirby doesn't die from just punches
No, not even close. Pure Hearts Mario is 2-BI'm trying to figure out if 2-C Kirby can take on Pure Hearts Mario. Any ideas?
doesn't make any difference, Sonic is 2-C but to such an extent he's stomping kirby. Whether you are 2-C or 2-B doesn't matter, what matters is whether you have the hax to win.No, not even close. Pure Hearts Mario is 2-B
He was asking if 2-C Kirby could beat Pure Hearts Mario who is 2-B, I was just telling him he wouldn't be able to. Also AP does matter, unless the person has some smurf hax that can screw them over, Sonic still breathes in Kirby's direction and he dies.doesn't make any difference, Sonic is 2-C but to such an extent he's stomping kirby. Whether you are 2-C or 2-B doesn't matter, what matters is whether you have the hax to win.
i mean yeah, he does, but if kirby 100% led with FH he could have a chance considering it might be above resistance considering it can overpower and overwrite Void Termina's mind control. Problem is he doesn't and thus its an AP stomp as sonic is way too evasive and i am still confused about the new standardsHe was asking if 2-C Kirby could beat Pure Hearts Mario who is 2-B, I was just telling him he wouldn't be able to. Also AP does matter, unless the person has some smurf hax that can screw them over, Sonic still breathes in Kirby's direction and he dies.
He can revive himselfKirby dies from just punches when those punches have the power to destroy hundreds of universes
How quickly? Because Sonic might be able to just punch ghost kirby before kirby revives (sonic has npi)He can revive himself
Well then I'll bloodlust him.proof is literally any game. Give me one game where kirby leads with transmutation attacks that isn't his suck up. Being in character means acting like they do in their stories and kirby never does this in stories.
Kirby, if bloodlusted, would probably try some of the more destructive abilities that usually one-shot bosses and such like Blast and Mike.
With a single punch, Kirby can block the punch with his and he'll revive.How quickly? Because Sonic might be able to just punch ghost kirby before kirby revives (sonic has npi)
I don't think you can do that, you'd have to convince the thread's creator.Well then I'll bloodlust him.
Due to Sonic having far higher AP, when their punches collide Kirby would be obliterated from the force, while sonic would be unaffected.With a single punch, Kirby can block the punch with his and he'll revive.
Can you obliterate a ghost?Due to Sonic having far higher AP, when their punches collide Kirby would be obliterated from the force, while sonic would be unaffected.
Is that a rule or something, I mean idrc if someone bloodlusts SonicI don't think you can do that, you'd have to convince the thread's creator.
Basically, Bloodlust is an alternative to SBA (standard battle assumptions) that can be used in the setup for the thread. When used, it means that the characters are immune to CIS (character induced stupidity) and always go for their strongest option (or what they think is their strongest option) immediately.Is that a rule or something, I mean idrc if someone bloodlusts Sonic
Alright thanksBasically, Bloodlust is an alternative to SBA (standard battle assumptions) that can be used in the setup for the thread. When used, it means that the characters are immune to CIS (character induced stupidity) and always go for their strongest option (or what they think is their strongest option) immediately.
npAlright thanks
AP is not the only thing that matters, you know. If Kirby has the hax, he can still beat him.No, not even close. Pure Hearts Mario is 2-B
New standards?i mean yeah, he does, but if kirby 100% led with FH he could have a chance considering it might be above resistance considering it can overpower and overwrite Void Termina's mind control. Problem is he doesn't and thus its an AP stomp as sonic is way too evasive and i am still confused about the new standards
What if he's bloodlusted, also I don't know about you but punching something thats barely taller than a soda can is pretty hard so he can just slip in between his legs and chop them off with Ultra Swordi mean yeah, he does, but if kirby 100% led with FH he could have a chance considering it might be above resistance considering it can overpower and overwrite Void Termina's mind control. Problem is he doesn't and thus its an AP stomp as sonic is way too evasive and i am still confused about the new standards
You're commenting on a thread that is over 2 months old. Now everyone is coming back to comment even more because someone just revived it.Why is Mario even being brought up here. That series needs a ton of work done anyways so anyone confidently saying something regarding hax or Tier should acknowledge the profiles kinda suck ATM.
Anyways, pretty sure this is a stomp thread.
But I'm curious how Kirby has even won against some opponents if Sonic's win conditions here are as easy as "punch and Kirby dies, even in Ghost form"
sonic just resists Kirby's haxWhy is Mario even being brought up here. That series needs a ton of work done anyways so anyone confidently saying something regarding hax or Tier should acknowledge the profiles kinda suck ATM.
Anyways, pretty sure this is a stomp thread.
But I'm curious how Kirby has even won against some opponents if Sonic's win conditions here are as easy as "punch and Kirby dies, even in Ghost form"
So how does Sonic stop Kirby's friend heart and Helper making abilities? If Kirby uses those on him it's over, he can just beat him senseless and he wins.
lolKirby doesn't have the friend heart in this key either.
Whoops wrong thread, thought this was the Post Gen Archie Sonic VS KIrby, too many Sonic VS Kirby threads I tell you.
Wait didn't they close that? I tried to argue in that thread that Sonic can't resist Kirby's EE that he has in super star but they just closed it.Whoops wrong thread, thought this was the Post Gen Archie Sonic VS KIrby, too many Sonic VS Kirby threads I tell you.
Sonic no-sells his Empathic Manipulation because we don't scale numbers/range to potency anymore, only layers of resistanceSo how does Sonic stop Kirby's friend heart and Helper making abilities?