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Lucifer has a decent amount of hax, however there are only 5 scans on the entire page, and basically no references, that is what this thread will attempt to fix ig
Acausality: in my opinion Lucifers acasuality depends more on where he is, more so the nature of his physiology, when he is inside of yahwech's creation, there are some contradictions to his Acasuality , to name a few there is Destiny saying that lucifer cannot do anything outside of the book of destiny (LUCIFER issue 51) there is the fact that Noema(Basanos) was able to alter his fate (LUCIFER issue 66) however when he is inside the void the presence describes his as outside his "plan" (LUCIFER issue 75) his "plan" he had described as something that had meticulously contained all things(LUCIFER issue 68) also yahwech specifically says "I'm glad to see you here, outside my plan" which more so implies that the "here" (the void) is the thing that is outside of his plan, with lucifer more so having just reached the void. so I'm saying that on the profile acasuality should be written as "Acasuality (type 5) only in the void" He also describes lucifer as having left his function (LUCIFER issue 75)
Mind and life manipulation: can travel into someone’s mind and prologue their life even though they should be dead.(LUCIFER issue 4)
Extra sensory perception: can see souls (LUCIFER issue 5)
Information analysis: analyzes a hurt kid to determine how a complicated power transfer had been enacted there.(Sandman Presents: Lucifer issue 1)
Air manipulation: blows on some charcoal dust so hard that it spreads far enough to be described as a "supernova of a flair" (LUCIFER issue 10)
Soul manipulation: Creates and gives someone a soul (LUCIFER issue 19) Can choose where the souls of those he kills fall to (LUCIFER issue 6)
Durability negation : the 3 named sword inflicts death upon anything no matter how shallow the wound is (LUCIFER issue 7) and it is stated earlier that it is a “weapon which cannot be withstood” (LUCIFER issue 6) and we see luci wield it (LUCIFER issue 7)
Telekinesis: uses telekinesis on some random monster (Sandman Presents: Lucifer issue 3)
immortality (Type 2): can survive without his heart intact (LUCIFER issue 32)
Immortality negation (Type 4): Paulina has immortality that works by rewinding a day every single time she gets hurt, in the sense that her body “forgets” all wounds at the conclusion of each day. (LUCIFER issue 9) and luci manages to kill her (LUCIFER issue 9)
Blood manipulation: He adds his blood to the feathers of a bird which he can use to find stuff (Sandman Presents; Lucifer issue 1)
Non-physical interaction and Light manipulation: he “enacts his name” as the light bender and “weaves the luminous cloud stuff” (LUCIFER issue 14)
Time/Space manipulation and Creation: was shown to move time and space around and create a universe. (LUCIFER issue 16) furthermore he’s been shown to bend the time and space of the gate (LUCIFER issue 20)
Energy manipulation: when creating his creation he creates gravitational forces between suns and planets etc. and he implants energy into oceans and the ground. (LUCIFER 16)
illusion manipulation: creates a visual for Adam to see (LUCIFER issue 16)
Electricity manipulation: causes lightning without clouds (LUCIFER issue 59)
Casuality manipulation: so when the Titans achieve god-hood and become the new YAHWECH they become immune to all power except their own, so to defeat them Lucifer attacks them before they reached godhood (ie attacked them in past from the present) (LUCFIER
Death manipulation: kills Adam with a single tap (LUCIFER issue 16)
Biological manipulation: increases Elaine's dads heartbeat to the point he has a heart attack (LUCIFER 16)
Fate manipulation : controlled the fate of one of the gods to prevent them from having died peacefully (LUCIFER issue 39)
Memory Manipulation: implied he could have erased Elaines memory (LUCIFER 41)
Sound manipulation: can bring sounds from the past (LUCIFER issue 10)
Power bestowal: Made Elaine and Mona tuteary spirits of his creation and put them "above everything" and "above hedgehogs" respectively. (LUCIFER 41)
Ressurection: resurrected the monster he killed (LUCIFER 43)
Fire manipulation: self explanatory (LUCIFER 13)
Dream manipulation; needed to travel through dreams to get to the piano room where he met with that guy who's name I forgot (LUCIFER issue 10)
Dimensional travel : flys into a pocket dimension that was cut off from the rest of the world (LUCIFER issue 13)
Expert hand-to-hand combatant: fights with fenris who would physically be much stronger then him, and flips him(LUCIFER issue 68)
Size manipulation: when we first see Michale he is gigantic, and lucifer says he will need him in a smaller size(LUCIFER 13) in the next scene we see Michale shrink in lucifers arms (LUCIFER 13)
Precognition: Lucifer was stated to be able to get premotions about negative things that were going to happen (LUCIFER issue 1)
So as I previously said Lucifer is the one who gave Elaine all of her power in her guardian spirit key (LUCIFER issue 19) which would mean that Lucifer would inhertently also be able to do everything she was able to do in said key because he's the one who gave her the power to do so in the first place. So here are some hax Elaine gained from power lucifer granted her that should also apply to lucifer himself;
Water manipulation : she split a sea open to locate one of the hiding gods (LUCIFER issue 44)
Conceptual manipulation (type 3) : removed the concept of immortality from one of the non-humans in lucifers cosmos(LUCIFER issue 46)
Weather manipulation: when Elaine is mad at mazikeen it is "shown in her world" by it beginning to snow (LUCIFER issue 47)
Animal manipulation : creates a horse with wings for mazikeen to fly on (LUCIFER issue 49)
REMOVALS:
High-godly regeneration - I genuinely could see nothing that remotely even implies high-godly, so if no one else has anything they want to say on this it should be nuked.
Lucifer powers stuff :
Fear manipulation: a random character stares at him and starts throwing up, later on in the issue it states that even an hour later she hadn’t recovered from the trauma (LUCIFER 1) furthermore “the touch of his gaze” causes someone’s legs to start shaking and they’re back to start burning (LUCIFER issue 24)Acausality: in my opinion Lucifers acasuality depends more on where he is, more so the nature of his physiology, when he is inside of yahwech's creation, there are some contradictions to his Acasuality , to name a few there is Destiny saying that lucifer cannot do anything outside of the book of destiny (LUCIFER issue 51) there is the fact that Noema(Basanos) was able to alter his fate (LUCIFER issue 66) however when he is inside the void the presence describes his as outside his "plan" (LUCIFER issue 75) his "plan" he had described as something that had meticulously contained all things(LUCIFER issue 68) also yahwech specifically says "I'm glad to see you here, outside my plan" which more so implies that the "here" (the void) is the thing that is outside of his plan, with lucifer more so having just reached the void. so I'm saying that on the profile acasuality should be written as "Acasuality (type 5) only in the void" He also describes lucifer as having left his function (LUCIFER issue 75)
Mind and life manipulation: can travel into someone’s mind and prologue their life even though they should be dead.(LUCIFER issue 4)
Extra sensory perception: can see souls (LUCIFER issue 5)
Information analysis: analyzes a hurt kid to determine how a complicated power transfer had been enacted there.(Sandman Presents: Lucifer issue 1)
Air manipulation: blows on some charcoal dust so hard that it spreads far enough to be described as a "supernova of a flair" (LUCIFER issue 10)
Soul manipulation: Creates and gives someone a soul (LUCIFER issue 19) Can choose where the souls of those he kills fall to (LUCIFER issue 6)
Durability negation : the 3 named sword inflicts death upon anything no matter how shallow the wound is (LUCIFER issue 7) and it is stated earlier that it is a “weapon which cannot be withstood” (LUCIFER issue 6) and we see luci wield it (LUCIFER issue 7)
Telekinesis: uses telekinesis on some random monster (Sandman Presents: Lucifer issue 3)
immortality (Type 2): can survive without his heart intact (LUCIFER issue 32)
Immortality negation (Type 4): Paulina has immortality that works by rewinding a day every single time she gets hurt, in the sense that her body “forgets” all wounds at the conclusion of each day. (LUCIFER issue 9) and luci manages to kill her (LUCIFER issue 9)
Blood manipulation: He adds his blood to the feathers of a bird which he can use to find stuff (Sandman Presents; Lucifer issue 1)
Non-physical interaction and Light manipulation: he “enacts his name” as the light bender and “weaves the luminous cloud stuff” (LUCIFER issue 14)
Time/Space manipulation and Creation: was shown to move time and space around and create a universe. (LUCIFER issue 16) furthermore he’s been shown to bend the time and space of the gate (LUCIFER issue 20)
Energy manipulation: when creating his creation he creates gravitational forces between suns and planets etc. and he implants energy into oceans and the ground. (LUCIFER 16)
illusion manipulation: creates a visual for Adam to see (LUCIFER issue 16)
Electricity manipulation: causes lightning without clouds (LUCIFER issue 59)
Casuality manipulation: so when the Titans achieve god-hood and become the new YAHWECH they become immune to all power except their own, so to defeat them Lucifer attacks them before they reached godhood (ie attacked them in past from the present) (LUCFIER
Death manipulation: kills Adam with a single tap (LUCIFER issue 16)
Biological manipulation: increases Elaine's dads heartbeat to the point he has a heart attack (LUCIFER 16)
Fate manipulation : controlled the fate of one of the gods to prevent them from having died peacefully (LUCIFER issue 39)
Memory Manipulation: implied he could have erased Elaines memory (LUCIFER 41)
Sound manipulation: can bring sounds from the past (LUCIFER issue 10)
Power bestowal: Made Elaine and Mona tuteary spirits of his creation and put them "above everything" and "above hedgehogs" respectively. (LUCIFER 41)
Ressurection: resurrected the monster he killed (LUCIFER 43)
Fire manipulation: self explanatory (LUCIFER 13)
Dream manipulation; needed to travel through dreams to get to the piano room where he met with that guy who's name I forgot (LUCIFER issue 10)
Dimensional travel : flys into a pocket dimension that was cut off from the rest of the world (LUCIFER issue 13)
Expert hand-to-hand combatant: fights with fenris who would physically be much stronger then him, and flips him(LUCIFER issue 68)
Size manipulation: when we first see Michale he is gigantic, and lucifer says he will need him in a smaller size(LUCIFER 13) in the next scene we see Michale shrink in lucifers arms (LUCIFER 13)
Precognition: Lucifer was stated to be able to get premotions about negative things that were going to happen (LUCIFER issue 1)
So as I previously said Lucifer is the one who gave Elaine all of her power in her guardian spirit key (LUCIFER issue 19) which would mean that Lucifer would inhertently also be able to do everything she was able to do in said key because he's the one who gave her the power to do so in the first place. So here are some hax Elaine gained from power lucifer granted her that should also apply to lucifer himself;
Water manipulation : she split a sea open to locate one of the hiding gods (LUCIFER issue 44)
Conceptual manipulation (type 3) : removed the concept of immortality from one of the non-humans in lucifers cosmos(LUCIFER issue 46)
Weather manipulation: when Elaine is mad at mazikeen it is "shown in her world" by it beginning to snow (LUCIFER issue 47)
Animal manipulation : creates a horse with wings for mazikeen to fly on (LUCIFER issue 49)
REMOVALS:
High-godly regeneration - I genuinely could see nothing that remotely even implies high-godly, so if no one else has anything they want to say on this it should be nuked.
Lucifers Speed:
the current MFTL feat on luci's page (i.e. him taking in the timespan of elaines creation) is a processing speed feat, not attack speed feat which is what should be listed on the page given that it is attack speed that would be used in a vs thread, and besides, since it's for his first key it is very inconsistent but whatever. So his speed should just become "superhuman with MFTL prosessing speed"
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