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Kozuki Oden

Kozuki Oden was the daimyo of Kuri in Wano Country and the son of the former shogun Kozuki Sukiyaki, being a member of the Kozuki Family. He was the husband of Kozuki Toki and the father of Momonosuke and Hiyori. Additionally, he was the leader of a group of legendary and powerful samurai known...
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Speed: Relativistic+ (Intercepted Whitebeard. Blocked an attack from Gol D. Roger. Speedblitzed Kaido)

but when we check Kaido profile

Speed: FTL (Stated to be too fast by a Luffy who was using Kenbunshoku Haki, when a weaker Luffy who was also using Kenbunshoku Haki considered Light Speed to be slow)
 
yes we know, you probably heard this before but we're waiting for wano to finish so we can make a big CRT and fix this. besides a recent thread made it so FTL calcs are usable now.
 
Bernkastelll said:
But why is a problem to fix Oden profile and how does this cause problems in the Wano?
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Because that justification for kaido will probably change because one piece is now gonna be FTL for characters even slower than kaido because they're gonna have calculations now. And because one piece supporters are lazy and a big ass crt like that is too much work so their excuse is wano.
 
The_Alxhemist said:
That was then.

Is there anything supporting the Kaido of then = the Kaido Luffy fought?
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What is the difference? Also, Oden has scaling with White Beard, which is stated to be still in his peak as when he was young, and White beard can keep with Shanks who can keep with Kaido, but it seems that there will be a Wano revision to give FTL to all of them
 
Actually weak kaido is stated much weaker than what he is now, in fact oden is much weaker than white beard since he's also somewhat comparable to said kaido and whitebeard kinda slapped oden without haki.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Actually weak kaido is stated much weaker than what he is now
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No, that was never said. Sengoku said that current Kaido and Big Mom are stronger now than they were 38 years ago. Kaido was just a pirate apprentice 38 years ago. Oden faced Kaido 20 years ago when Kaido was 39, that's prime age. Current Kaido having Oden in his Top 5 of people who can fight him, proves that there isn't much, if any, of a difference in strength between current Kaido, and 39 year old Kaido.
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FluffyCreatureZ said:
in fact oden is much weaker than white beard since he's also somewhat comparable to said kaido and whitebeard kinda slapped oden without haki.
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We're using the manga here, not the anime. Oden was nowhere in his prime at point, yet Primebeard was sweating and considered him as something incredible when he sensed Oden. Even if you go by the anime, Oden forced Primebeard to use his DF, something that WB didn't seem to have used against Roger. Also, wasn't it implied in the newest SBS that Roger's Divine Departure was coated with Conquerors Haki? Insane how even a non Prime Oden immediately got back up from it and was barely injured.
KingTempest said:
Kaido is stated to have gotten stronger. That's that.
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Current Kaido is stronger than cabin boy Kaido from 40 years ago...which doesn't say a lot since Oden fought Kaido when Kaido was almost 40 and there isn't a single mention of current Kaido being stronger than that Kaido.
 
Current Kaido is Stronger than, Young Kaido but stronger doesn't mean Faster. But if we used this logic Moria should scale to Kaido too. But yeah... Stronger can be mean more strength, speed, and Stamina.
I agree with KT.
 
Unforgiven0815 said:
Current Kaido is stronger than cabin boy Kaido from 40 years ago...which doesn't say a lot since Oden fought Kaido when Kaido was almost 40 and there isn't a single mention of current Kaido being stronger than that Kaido.
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"Their strength is growing" ≠ "Their strength is the same from 20 years ago"
 
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