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Hm at should be higher than island since "break or cause to break suddenly and violently into pieces.Thing is, earth shattering and crushing is not always planet level, 5-B is for when you destroy the earth so hard it can't pull it self back togheter.
But shattering it can be as low as tier 6 and as high as small planet level depending on the level.
Those could be added to the profile as justifications for their tiers though
True but there's no timeframe given behind it and nor is there a provided method for itHm at should be higher than island since "break or cause to break suddenly and violently into pieces.
"bullets riddled the bar top, glasses shattered, bottles exploded"" would imply higher than island
really? can you show me that statement or show me where to get the mind hax statementI mean "earth shattering" is fairly hyperbolic and it's perfectly possible for an island level character to be able to ravage worlds overtime (especially since he can channel the devastating force of the Bifrost with Gungnir). I'd also note this is seemingly BTS from the initial Thor so it might not be a great idea to use this as the sole reasoning for an upgrade.
I do confess I'm curious about whether the guides have anything (apparently Thor has Mind Hax Resistance based off them)
Why would it be hyperbolic tho?I mean "earth shattering" is fairly hyperbolic and it's perfectly possible for an island level character to be able to ravage worlds overtime (especially since he can channel the devastating force of the Bifrost with Gungnir). I'd also note this is seemingly BTS from the initial Thor so it might not be a great idea to use this as the sole reasoning for an upgrade.
I do confess I'm curious about whether the guides have anything (apparently Thor has Mind Hax Resistance based off them)
I saw it on the Key Issues Thor video (I'll find it)really? can you show me that statement or show me where to get the mind hax statement
Because Tier 5 is solidly beyond the feats we see for Odin that aren't just non combat applicable creation feats and something having "earth shattering power" is a fairly common hyperbolic statement.Why would it be hyperbolic tho?
TBH Marvel did so I don't blame youAlso forget about bifrost
Eh Ig but even then that feels like it's giving a bit too much credit imoIg would just support likely Higher
I think the statement I recall comes from Phase 3 (It involves Stormbreaker) but It'd be interesting to see what the guides have to say. Probably nothing earth shattering but it might be funHm imma look for it since i do have the phase 1 aou and Thor guide
Should be an fast oneTrue but there's no timeframe given behind it and nor is there a provided method for it
I mean Odin didn't really had any featBecause Tier 5 is solidly beyond the feats we see for Odin that aren't just non combat applicable creation feats and something having "earth shattering power" is a fairly common hyperbolic statement.
Why? We see the Bifrost takes a decent timeframe to shatter the hollow planetoid that is Jotunheim and that's just the BifrostShould be an fast one
I'm sorry why is Hela able to do so?"the strongest norse God" "combine royal Presence with Earth shattering force" would be kinda weird to point out the earth shattering force when other gods Like hela can already do it overtime
"Feat" in this case referring to the consistent power scaling he has under his belt. Also where is the statement he oneshot Hela?I mean Odin didn't really had any feat
We just know he win the War against the frost giant with The casket beating surturr who one shotted hela and beating hela as well (only reason he needzd to seal her was cuz asgard made her immortal)
Wouldn't be 5-B if it's overtime plus Jotunheim is a hollow ring of ice seemingly (according to the script for Thor 1) so it might not even be planetary overtime.I have a question. Should Odin have "up to 5-B Environmental Destruction" through channeling the Bifrost? Apologies if this has been brought up before, but I'm just really curious.
Eh fair enoughWhy? We see the Bifrost takes a decent timeframe to shatter the hollow planetoid that is Jotunheim and that's just the Bifrost
Odin has seemingly 5 Gigatons under his belt so he could totally "shatter" a planet
I'm sorry why is Hela able to do so?
Also Odin being the strongest Norse God isn't a reason for the Tier 5 to not be hyperbolic
Surturr one shotted hela at the end of RagnarokAlso where is the statement he oneshot Hela?
Asgard is very clearly not a planet thoNvm remember she was already being able to destroy asgard which was called an planet in loki and iirc was shown but wasn't actually able to do it
The same feat seemingly killed himSurturr one shotted hela at the end of Ragnarok
Can you quote it for meAlso talking about hela she should get type immortallity 1 instead of longevity since an official site says she is Immortal unlike other as gardians https://www.marvel.com/characters/hela/on-screen/profile
Yeah, that's why I added the "up to" portion. I've seen other "overtime" feats use that in the past.Wouldn't be 5-B if it's overtime plus Jotunheim is a hollow ring of ice seemingly (according to the script for Thor 1) so it might not even be planetary overtime.
Seems Like it was retconned or some thingAsgard is very clearly not a planet tho
Yeah seems like surturr to be an glass of Canon or some thingThe same feat seemingly killed
If you scroll down at Power abilities you will find "IMMORTALITYCan you quote it for me
I mean I typically see it divided by time but I guess that worksYeah, that's why I added the "up to" portion. I've seen other "overtime" feats use that in the past.
No worries mangBut in any case, I didn't know the thing about Jotunheim being a hollow ring of ice lol. I guess it's not 5-B after all. Thanks for the answer.
Thing is there's no evidence aside from this Asgard is a planet in the conventional sense and we need to emphasize the onscreen depiction over statements.Seems Like it was retconned or some thing
In loki when he looked in tva stuff about timeline events asgard destruction was called "planetary destruction"
Just a bitYeah seems like surturr to be an glass of Canon or some thing
I mean it's an eh but I can see it being added in it's own threadIf you scroll down at Power abilities you will find "IMMORTALITY
Unlike other Asgardians, Hela was immortal – not aging while imprisoned for 5000 years. In addition to her accelerated healing factor, Hela drew increased strength and power from Asgard itself as the first born of Odin"
I mean that's pretty clearly a bit of a boast and he doesn't elaborate on how he did it.Just also want to add that he claimed he devastated whole worlds and laid waste to kingdoms
I mean statament from tva should be pretty much factual going by their loreThing is there's no evidence aside from this Asgard is a planet in the conventional sense and we need to emphasize the onscreen depiction over statements.
Thing is that's not really their purpose; their purpose is to prevent possible emergences of Kang the Conqueror. Secondly yes it should but you could with a stretch call Asgard a planet; it's just not the size or proportions that one would haveI mean statament from tva should be pretty much factual going by their lore
As their supposed to not make any mistake so they can keep every timeline the same
Yeah that was i thininking aboutThing is that's not really their purpose; their purpose is to prevent possible emergences of Kang the Conqueror. Secondly yes it should but you could with a stretch call Asgard a planet; it's just not the size or proportions that one would have