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Because he’s literally too strong for toppo’s energy to work on him
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Vegeta downgrade
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Lmao he wasn't even using ki, he literally blocked toppos attacks then grabbed both his fists, that is clear cut EE resistance, and besides, even if he used ki to resist EE, it doesn't change anything, as we see 17's ki attacks get erased by toppo's aura, but a straight up hakai can't erase vegeta's attacks be it ki blasts punches, final flash whatever.
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It didn’t directly touch him, tho. He even needed to dodge the hakai blasts so that he didn’t have to touch them
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But you just said he was punching the energy.
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Right, but before that Ben vegeta’s own attacks got erased
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That was when he needed to. He still dodged most of the time
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But he still wasn't erased, so the point still stands. You pretty much contradicted yourself.
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It isn’t a proper resistance if it’s just due to him having more raw power
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Even if that's the case, which it most likely isn't, it will still be a limited resistance.
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I’m fine with that. I thought I clarified that, but a solid resistance was what I was trying to remove. Limited resistance is fine.
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When was it stated or implied it's due to having more power this is basically just your assumption without enough proof.
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I already pointed out something. If your only response is “what’s your evidence?” It looks pretty bad.
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You didn't point out anything
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I did...please check some of the recent comments...anyway, please just summarize your arguments for Vegeta having a resistance to EE
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You didn't point anything out you just said it didn't affect him because he was stronger
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Yeah, I'm against the downgrade because your reason for it is wrong, you're saying vegeta's AP > Toppo's AP therefore Vegeta doesn't resist EE, and that is false because AP has nothing to do with EE, since you can't resist EE with durability.
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I didn't say that, tho...I said that his resistance essentially came from his higher AP, which wouldn't be a proper resistance, so a possible resistance or a limited resistance would be better. Only Goku and other gods would have a proper resistance tbf.
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He didn't resist EE with durability, tho. He punched through an energy attack that had EE properties due to his higher AP, not because of some new resistance that he didn't have before. Besides, before the amp, even Vegeta's own attacks were getting erased, which is more evidence against a resistance (a possible or even limited resistance is fine, tho)
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Nah, the problem here is you saying he did it with AP, but he didn't because that's not how it works, you can't do it with AP you need a resistance.
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Again...that goes against what we're shown where Vegeta, when he had lower AP, was unable to actually resist the EE, only after getting amped did he punch through the hakai energy. It's not a solid resistance, and I don't think you get that. It's a resistance, but only limited.
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That's bullshit, he was still struggling against toppo when he was resisting his haki, they were comparable vegeta wasn't much stronger. Vegeta only overpowered toppo with a final explosion which was a significant increase of his base power.
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I disagree with the OP. Vegeta's ki attacks don't get erased by Toppo's hakai and since he literally uses ki to fight and amp his stats beyond that of a regular human so to speak, he's essentially coated in something that resists EE at all times. As for more power = resistance in DB, sure, that obviously depends, but that doesn't make the resistance limited in the slightest.
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Again, you can say it all you want, the fact is that Vegeta merely powered through Toppo's energy attack. By your logic, every dragon ball character has a resistance to Ki manipulation. The other issue I have with your argument is that it still would only be a limited resistance if it only comes when his AP goes up.
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This is going in circles. Disagree FRA.
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It would in this case, which I already pointed out. When Vegeta wasn't nearly as strong, his final flash was being erased by Toppo's hakai, which was clearly shown there, once he got amped, he was able to power through them. A resistance being given through mere raises in power should only be limited resistance.
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Bro, what? He literally powered through his hakai like it was nothing. The only one he truly struggled on was the large one that Toppo used against him. Once amped, he was literally ******** on Toppo until the last energy struggle (thing)
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Not when Vegeta now operates on that level of power lol. At best you can limit it to one of his forms.
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Yo, what? It would still be a limited resistance cause it's merely dependent to his level of power. It doesn't matter if that's the constant, it's still not a proper resistance. It would be limited.
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alright, time to serious then, now if we talk about Vegeta using ki to overpower Hakai, then go this route mean his Ki have resistance to EE, if his Ki and Aura have resistance to EE then Vegeta himself using his own Ki should have resistance to EE
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Thx for copying my argument Viet 
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His ki has never been stated to be anything special in comparison to anyone else's ki, other than being stronger, so now all characters with God ki have resistance? Again, it's literally based on his own raw power, we'd have to give a limited resistance based on that.
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Actually it has been shown to be special, it resisted EE lmao.
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Bruh...this logic...
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I disagree with the OP's line of thought. The entire premise that Toppo did not want to erase Vegeta is wrong. Here we see Toppo aim hakai blasts at Vegeta, who dodges it and it erases whatever it touches. Vegeta was able to punch through one of these, and then later he also powered through Toppo's final hakai.
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Yeah, I disagree with this.
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