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Yeah but he got stronger between fighting Bee and attacking the Kage. He went from barely keeping up with Base Bee to reacting to V1 Ay without even using the MS.
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Naruto-Boruto Low 5-B Upscale
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When did he have time to train when he woke up or finished adjusting to Itachi's eyes during the middle of the war, his earliest feats of his EMS were using Genjutsu, Armored Susanoo, and Amaterasu against Zetsu
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Oh also random thought but WE FINALLY DID IT! WE FINALLY UPGRADED BORUTO ERA NARUTO AND SASUKE ABOVE THEIR WAR ARC VERSIONS! I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS'LL LAST BUT THE TASTE OF VICTORY IS SWEEEEET!
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For codes low 5B justification, it should only say because he’s supirior to jigen not because it’s stated he could have gone to retrieve kawaki from naruto
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He was capable of keeping up with Base Killer B though and even dodged V1 Killer B mid-air, he was only ever hit by Killer B when he left himself open when he surprized that Killer B was also able to channel Raiton into his sword, and when he left his guard down when he thought he successfully put Killer B into a Genjutsu.
Against the 4th Raikage, he never let his guard down
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I thought that was only for Code without limiters?
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Then Code with Limiters should scale to 5-C or 5-C+ while without Limiters he's above Otsutsuki Form Jigen and on par with Isshiki (Low 5-B)
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He was shocked by the speed and got stabbed many times while Bee was wielding his 8 blades and got pierced by a frontal attack too.
Still couldn't get him by normal means when they were 3 on 1.
I mean...he kinda did when he put up his Amaterasu shield.
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I forgot about this but, Kuramas page should also be edited to Moon Level+ In his avatar and Small Planet Level with majestic attire susano
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You literally skipped the panel where both Sasuke and Killer B clashed swords
And Sasuke was not shocked by Killer B's speed at all he was having a hard time dealing with Killer B's swordsmanship
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This isn’t really relevant to the thread. I have already debunked the guy that was calling an inconsistency
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A better analogy would be a fog/mist btw i just forgot what mist was in English so i went with smellI know japanese. . .
The Kanji Used is used for things like smell, so thicker is one way to translate it. Basically think of the sentence like Karin saying Sasuke's chakra smells worse
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As for the Toniranja stuff he only refers to occular powers in that scene and not AP.Ah. Fair enough.
Mmmmm...Tobirama disagrees...
There really wasn't much of a time gap between him awakening the MS and going to the five kage summit.
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I'm not sure if we should change Kurama's Last Key because it was discussed that Kurama only ever becomes Tier 5 when he's with SPSM Naruto that's why his Last Key is rated as Unknown.
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Ik. I’m saying that his tier 5 stuff with naruto should be there because it’s still him but in brackets should say with Naruto. Also u could make arguements for putting baryon mode under his stuff since it’s a fusion
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Just because someone is superior doesn't mean u can't react at all. Besides, that was Killer B reacting to Sasuke, not the other way around.
If someone with excellent swordsmanship isn't fast enough their skill doesn't matter. Do u think V1 Ay would have such trouble fighting Base Bee?
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It specifically says power multiple times
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Yeah and based on context it refers to occular power
MinatoSparkle
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Sounds like headcanon
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Some of y'all need to learn reading comprehension dafuq
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Sasuke and Killer B were shown to be comparable in speed in their initial clash the only time Sasuke had trouble was when Killer B used all eight swords with a hard to read fighting style which Suigetsu acknowledged and the fact that Killer B is physically stronger than Team Taka.
Still doesn't help that you tried to hide context, nice try deflecting by bringing in Ay
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Ok then explain why it's just about occular power.
No more like Bee=>Sasuke at least. The > part seems more likely, because if he was equal, he would've been overwhelmed when Jugo and Suigetsu joined in.
The whole point of bringing up Bee is that Sasuke couldn't keep up with Base Bee but kept up with V1 Ay who's faster than Base Bee.
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I already explained. Context is key, if you read the scene you'll be able to pick up that it refers to their occular jutsu
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Even if you're right, occular power for Madara can only be referring to his Susanoo since he hasn't shown any MS abilities, so once he got the PS, he shouldn't have increased his power rapidly anymore, but that's clearly not true.
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Do you understand the meaning of "Comparable"? Never did I say that Sasuke and Killer B were Equal in speed.
Sasuke kept up with Base Bee though, and could only keep up with V1 Bee and V1 because of his Reaction Speed
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Elaborate on that last part
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Replace equal with comparable, and my argument does not change.
He kept up with Bee worse than he did against Ay if anything though.
I mean his power didn't stop growing when he fully evolved his Susanoo.
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At what point? Reanimated?pre war arc aka alive?
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Alive.
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Ah yes, getting stabbed by letting his guard down when he was surprised that Killer B could also channel Raiton into his swords, and being surprise attacked by V1 Killer B when he had his guard down when he thought Killer B was paralyzed.
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We literally don't know if he trained or not. When he was alive.
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already showed him getting stabbed other than that
I guess, but Tobirama didn't say Uchiha have great potential in general, just that when they have the sharingan it increasingly makes them more powerful and full of hate until they can't be stopped.
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Yeah because the sharingan gives crack ass Jutsu, like dafuqhe
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Madara has no MS abilities. Other than maybe clone detection which is nothing special.
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Because he was surprised by what Killer B did, that was the only time he got stabbed.
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What have you done exactly? Your edits may need to be reversed.
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Somebody really needs to compile all the Profiles that are affected and assign the agreed values to their specific Forms and Keys
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I believe WrathofItachi, UchihaSlayer96 or LordTracer are some of the knowledgeable supporters of Naruto that I'm familiar with that could help
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On the tier we don't do "4-B+ or 6-A+" we only add the "+" on the AP value explanation, since if we added a "+" it would take AGES to fix all profiles on the wiki. I reverted a + on naruto and isshiki's profiles for the "5-C+" and made it "5-C"
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