If you're appealing to the page, base Naruto>base Minato so BM Naruto>BM Minato. And it's a well known fact that the more Kurama bonds with Naruto the stronger they get. That was stated during their first bond.
You do know the night lasts at least 8 hours right? That's a lot of time.
Itachi the Uchiha with ridiculously bad stamina, a chakra eating disease and who had already abused the Sharingan!? How does that mean Hashirama had more chakra?
Chakra amps all stats so I dunno what you mean. If the PS>=100% Kurama, why would an exhausted 50% Kurama have more durability? Madara would literally SCALE. Alive blind Madara also took hits from all the Bijuu so yeah there's that too.
Not really, he fought Hashirama to the death at full power MANY times.
6th gate Lee threw the Kunai, which got in front of Guy. So does Lee scale to Juubidara too!? Or....outlier. Furthermore, Minato considered Guy's speed to be inhuman while Madara could react to him. And that's Sage Mode which has better reactions than BM.
Madara was much closer to the epicenter and Naruto used the chakra of all the tailed beasts to defend them and himself. And again that was just with the armored Susano'o, not the Perfect.
Still sounds like garbage stamina in comparison.
No he doesn't. He scales to less than half of Madara and so durability would be the same. Base Madara is over ten times base Minato, plus 2x the Kurama amp at full power. All the crap on his profile, which is a lot more than Minato has. How does Minato have better versatility? Precog? Clones? All the nature types Madara has?! He has three tricks. Good tricks, but three tricks. Normally? Madara blitzes really bad. Teleportation depends on a very clear OUTLIER. "Better mindset for battle" what does that even mean? He's known everything Minato's got up his sleeve for decades.
That is based on this statement.
Which neither refers to power nor Base Naruto. And when was it stated? Show me a scan.
Yeah but the darkness of it doesn't stay the same the whole 8 hours. It's possible it was a few hours, but it's headcanon to just assume that.
Because Itachi while alive would not be able to do nearly as much as that, showing edos have more chakra. Also if YOU'RE appealing to this site, it lists edos chakra as nigh unlimited.
That's not how it works. Different things have different properties. Just because Early Shippuden naruto had 4x more chakra than Kakashi doesn't mean his AP was 4x higher. And Blind Madara only tanked hits from the Bijuu with SM, which is a massive amp to durability. EMS Madara only has High 7-A durability.
Yeah and?
Classic argument I've seen before. That's not nearly as impressive and requires far less precision because he could see them approaching each other from a fair distance away and Minato even said "Great timing Lee," which implies luck involved, because Lee knew generally when to threw but could've been slightly off. But for Minato he had to teleport at the EXACT moment they touched him and not a moment later or sooner or they would've hit Guy/blown up.
Minato never called Guy's speed inhuman. That was Gaara.
If anything, Minato didn't seem that impressed. There was no exclamation marks, just a calm ... There was never any surprised expression either. 7th Gate Guy isn't Minato level.
Who says Madara was much closer to the epicenter? And who says that makes it stronger? Besides Naruto was pretty close to the center too. It's not an antifeat, but it's far too vague and subjective to be considered a solid durability feat, as even Base Madara's durablity is considered High 7-A, which is as much as KCM Naruto. And what proof is there that Naruto used all the tailed beasts chakra? He didn't start doing that until he entered SPSM.
Is it really? The chakra necessary for most of that stuff is pretty unknown, so it's hard to say how much chakra he has exactly. But it's definitely extremely high compared to an average shinobi, and he has half of Kurama's chakra too.
The PS has no durability feats beyond Low 6-B, and his page only considers his durability Low 6-B, so you're gonna have to definitively prove his durability is 6-B because "being stronger than BM" isn't nearly enough. Kurama is more durable than strong. But there's no proof the same is true of the PS.
Base Minato is irrelevant since we're not talking about him. Human form BM Minato is stronger than Human form Madara, that's the point I was making. Which matters since if they engage in cqc and Minato places a mark on him that's gonna be a massive advantage.
Madara has a lot of abilities on his profiles, but number of abilities doesn't equal amount of hax. And does Madara have more than Minato? Madara only has access to abilities he has in one massive key, while Minato has access to abilities from 4 of his keys. Either way, when I'm referring to versatility I'm not referring to just number of abilities either, I mean the different ways Minato can use his arsenal for the victory, as Madara in character doesn't fight in as creative a way as Minato. I'm mostly referring to FTG just because of how versatile that is.
Um....Madara blitzes Minato really bad? I think you got the order mixed up. BM Minato>>Minato>Tobirama>Madara. Is this about Tobirama's shadow clone "blitzing" BM Minato and you thinking Madara is almost as fast as him? Because seriously, when will people remember that Minato. Was. Dazed. Besides, you objectively can't use that to say Tobirama is faster than Minato since just before, Minato showed he had a faster shunshin than Tobirama and Tobirama used shunshin to get to the TSO. I expect a reply like "WHAT!? Of course he used FTG!" But how would he? There was no marking at the spot where the TSO was exploding. He only placed a marker on Minato after this. His closest marking was on Obito, who was fairly far away, so no matter what, Tobirama did have to use shunshin to get to the TSO. And he runs slower than Minato.
And better mindset for battle means Minato tries to go for the kill right from the start (he's basically in character bloodlusted), while Madara tends to test out his opponents first and is rather casual. Despite you saying otherwise, he has clearly shown this on many occasions. Like I said, the five kage, BM Naruto (this is the best example, since Minato has the same power but Madara didn't fight that seriously against Naruto), Bee, Guy, Edo Hashirama, to an extent against Six Paths Naruto and Sasuke, the Bijuu, etc.
Why do you think Madara knows everything Minato has up his sleeve? He doesn't. Especially not his SM or BM powers.
