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Dio and Kars AP problem

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This is about the Jorge Joestar.

Basically, the justification for their AP seems to go in circles without calcs linked to the profiles. For example,
  • Can harm Dio Brando with his punches - from Kars' page
  • Traded blows with Kars and reduced him to a pool of gore with every blow - from Dio's page


Does anyone have calcs for this?
 
I'm quite sure it's this calc. The idea is that the ship crashed and flipped Britain, and since Kars was inside that ship, his durability scales somehow. Since Dio harmed Kars, then Dio's AP is Country level+. Kars scales to Dio's AP since they fought and harmed each other. Something like that.
 
Adding yo that fio also became a ultimate life form from eating a kars so he should be comparable.

Although i'm confused, how did joji and naracia survived the ship crashing, did kars help them?
 
I think it should be mentioned that his AP scales to durability or at least mention that in the AP too. Kinda confusing way to go about it.
 
I actually had that in mind that he would encompass them to save them, like it was obvious and expected but i was not sure.

I even thought that he would've absorbed them and then liberates them aftee the crash.
 
Btw did anyone revised kars (Jorge Joestar) profile?like adds some abilities/Skills or feats? (I heard from my friend that kars has High Godly Regeneration via able to comeback after Dio erase him completely from JoJo Narrative/Plot/Story), Immeasurable Speed (able to Time Travel with sheer speed of MIHUR),etc
 
1. MIHUR doesn't make you time travel with sheer speed, it directly accelates time and affects you for faster speed.

2. High godly sounds interesting.

3. I'm confused, did they time travel out of the ship or did kars eat them to save them?
 
1.yeah but it still with speed with accelerate (also what from i heard Pucci just with his MIH in the Novel is accelerate himself and after that with his accelerate speed he time travel to past/future)

2.Yeah thats a good feats but i don't remember what chapter is that

3.they time travel to the past but not past in original timeline but to a past in another Universe (its complicated)
 
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TokiNoOuja said:
1.yeah but it still with speed with accelerate (also what from i heard Pucci just with his MIH in the Novel is accelerate himself and after that with his accelerate speed he time travel to past/future)
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Accelerate speed and get immeasurable via time travel is not a new case because ohma zio who able to Time Travel with accelerate his speed is get immeasurable speed
 
1. Not how it works, time travelling via sheer speed is different from "time travelling after accelerating to infinite because the universe resets", it is only infinite speed at it's max potential.

Last i checked he doesn't time travel in the normal way, he just goes to the end of the universe, then the beginning of a new one, than accelerates time to reach what era he wants.

3. I think you are misunderstanding me, i'm asking how did naracia and joji survive the crash that kars tanked.
 
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Thelastmlg said:
1. Not how it works, time travelling via sheer speed is different from "time travelling after accelerating to infinite because the universe resets", it is only infinite speed at it's max potential
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1.its different, Pucci accelerate time to make his speed faster and the "Infinite" is the Pucci peak Speed but MIH Novel is basicly much much much better than the Canon counterpart because Pucci is able to accelerate time and make his own speed faster, after that with his speed already get accelerate make him able to Time Travel with the speed that already get accelerate by MIH/MIHUR

Oh and also,in Novel Pucci is able to control MIH Power so Pucci now can just accelerate time in local area (so not like his Canon counterpart) or just accelerate him which is better than Canon

3.from what i read last time (sorry if i wrong), they not crash because with the speed that skip make they able to Time travel to past
 
1. He doesn't just accelerate himself, he focus the time acceleration on himself to avoid affecting the universe, this is not the same as just having enough speed to time travel.

Again, he doesn't time travel like that, he just accelerates time to reach the era he wants, nothing to do with speed, just time hax.

Yes i know what he can do on jorge joestar, it is still not immesurable speed, is just better control over the time hax.
 
TokiNoOuja said:
Accelerate speed and get immeasurable via time travel is not a new case because ohma zio who able to Time Travel with accelerate his speed is get immeasurable speed
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Fyi, AKM is gonna make a thread about time travelling via sheer speed not counting as immeasurable.
 
Cloozuma said:
Fyi, AKM is gonna make a thread about time travelling via sheer speed not counting as immeasurable.
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Then what would Immeasurable even be then? This is like making a thread where travelling an infinite distance in finite time not being Infinite.
 
TokiNoOuja said:
He accelerate his Speed with accelerate the time
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Yep, he doesn't make himself so fast he time travels, he becomes fast while time is moving fast, that is a unconventional form of time travel, and not comparable to moving through time by sheer speed.

The time accelration and travel are unrelated to his speed, the former affects it and that's it
 
Thelastmlg said:
1. Not how it works, time travelling via sheer speed is different from "time travelling after accelerating to infinite because the universe resets", it is only infinite speed at it's max potential.

Last i checked he doesn't time travel in the normal way, he just goes to the end of the universe, then the beginning of a new one, than accelerates time to reach what era he wants.
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they wanted to go back in the past. here some scans
 
manu_zarri said:
will.
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Yeah i hope it get revised to be better because i see somethings wrong,for example in kars profile his range is 2B even i don't know why its 2B, Valentine get 2A in range with Dimension Travel (with D4C of course) but kars who has a D4C Ultimate which is more superior than the original just get 2B,etc
 
TokiNoOuja said:
Where i can see the AP and Speed CRT?
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upcoming, it's pretty done.
TokiNoOuja said:
Yeah i hope it get revised to be better because i see somethings wrong,for example in kars profile his range is 2B even i don't know why its 2B, Valentine get 2A in range with Dimension Travel (with D4C of course) but kars who has a D4C Ultimate which is more superior than the original just get 2B,etc
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it's universal due to the ability of create universes for D4C. should also be fixed tbh
 
Say, what is there to revise, any feats we left behind? immensurable is a no but i wanna hear the high godly stuff.
 
Thelastmlg said:
Say, what is there to revise, any feats we left behind? immensurable is a no but i wanna hear the high godly stuff.
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Low 2-C back, at the time they maded an assumption, but if you explain it better you get Low 2-C.
also would be cool get finally the Low 1-C Beyond that we always had but never got accepted because noobody ever proposed.
also immeansurable is pretty much yes, you need show scans for prove your point
 
I don't need to prove a negative, you need to prove a positive, getting faster via time acceleration is not immensurable and your scan litwrally say "past beyond the future" and dio being in another universe, so if they want to go to the past they'd just be starting the universe over

Even then, rewinding time with a speed amp is not immensurable speed, you have to move through time with your speed, not get it bumped because the time hax is happening.
 
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