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Giorno Giovanna vs Satoru Gojo
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Alright. Sba, Giorno has GER.
Gojo has passive space hax (infinity) so I don't think he getting touched this match and maybe any thing Gojo does gets RtZ. Waiting for more input but incon for now.
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when ger fought king crimson he allowed him to activate his ability to erase time for a few moments, (as when it was reverted to zero many things that would take some time and aren't moving with infinite speed were reverted too like the birds flying or mistas bullets being reverted) and that was against king crimson someone who is slower than ger
here speed is equalized which makes it worse for ger, so if gojo uses domain expansion he should win as it power nulls his opponent, and that should prevent ger from using rtz (if it can null it)
then all gojo has to do is kill giorno
a pretty close match imo, if gojo cant null rtz with his domain then incon, but im leaning more towards gojo as ger if in character will let gojo's domain take effect as he doesn't immediately revert things to zero based on his fight against diavolo
here speed is equalized which makes it worse for ger, so if gojo uses domain expansion he should win as it power nulls his opponent, and that should prevent ger from using rtz (if it can null it)
then all gojo has to do is kill giorno
a pretty close match imo, if gojo cant null rtz with his domain then incon, but im leaning more towards gojo as ger if in character will let gojo's domain take effect as he doesn't immediately revert things to zero based on his fight against diavolo
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btw, The Domain just freezes the corp. Rtz is though based, or most likely a passive (not much).
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Technically automatic since it reacts to direct attacks or something, but is not activated at the beginning of the match or something
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You're dealing with a 4D Causality Manip, so Power Null won't work
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It's passive.
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is he accepted as having 4D causality manip? if so ignore the stuff im about to say
im assuming you said 4D causality manip cuz ger reverted diavolos time erasure ? I dont think he needs 4D causality manipulation for that, it is stated ger reverts his opponents actions back to zero so all he does is affect diavolo and not time itself based on the explanation given
giorno doesn't use attack reflection a lot in character so i don't think that can be used here, even if we used it gojo's reflected attacks need to have infinite speed to cover the infinity around him, which it doesn't have
as for it being passive it wont really matter as I explained above, when he fought diavolo we saw before rtz took effect mistas bullets moving and birds flying a certain distance even diavolo himself
it doesnt immediately take effect, so gojo should be able to power null unless it is accepted as 4D as you said then ill go with incon too
im assuming you said 4D causality manip cuz ger reverted diavolos time erasure ? I dont think he needs 4D causality manipulation for that, it is stated ger reverts his opponents actions back to zero so all he does is affect diavolo and not time itself based on the explanation given
giorno doesn't use attack reflection a lot in character so i don't think that can be used here, even if we used it gojo's reflected attacks need to have infinite speed to cover the infinity around him, which it doesn't have
as for it being passive it wont really matter as I explained above, when he fought diavolo we saw before rtz took effect mistas bullets moving and birds flying a certain distance even diavolo himself
it doesnt immediately take effect, so gojo should be able to power null unless it is accepted as 4D as you said then ill go with incon too
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RTZ has 2-C Range, and it's been accepted as 4-D
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4D RtZ now is more a thing than before, since he can easily revert the universe reset with the new scan that we used for speed
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What scan??
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Infinite speed scan that is written in GER's speed regarding RTZ, also necro.
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You mean that scalling from MIH???
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He doesn't just scale, he upscales from it
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Incon fra
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wait til everyone hears GER has multiverse level+ range and can stomp a lot of tier 2s
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For me its better the range is 2B (Multiverse) since Stated by Giorno it Endless,An end Without a end,etc.So 2B is better
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So can GER touch Gojou?
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Literally stated to be Infinite
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ya bois in the non canon jojo have stands that can nuke infinite multiverses and can solo guys from DBH
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no? the only 2-A feats is performed by a possible love train argument which is in canon
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Range /=/ hax tier
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range = hax but sometimes dosen't (or maybe always does). either way, RtZ is 4D.
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No, range has nothing to do with hax potency, as the name implies it just the reach of the hax or ability
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Really?who?
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wrong. if you like EE someone from infinite timelines and any point in time it's 4D, if it can affect a entire space-time and to follow in other universes then it is 4D, even if you can Dimensional travel another timeline the DT is 4D
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I am not talking bout affecting timelines or anything like that
I am saying that u having an ability that can reach other universes does not give it a tier, only range
Unless said ability has demonstrated to be able to affect that other universe or is said to affect the whole thing
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huhh if you don't affect all the thing it's not low multi and up
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For example, us u have a spear that can cross universes u would just have tier 2 reach, is basically the same for hax
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as far i asked in other threads this is just interdimensional range.
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It can be any range, some have tier 1 range even tho they dont have abilities on that tier
Interdimensional is just another range
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no like i remember people saying that in order to get low multi and up you needs affect the whole thing, and just going there from another where is interdimensional range
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Heaven dio, novel kars, and idk else
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not novel kars, and at peak HA Dio scales to canon if you want agrue for 2-A
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if im correct, HA dio wasnt effected by RTZ. lemme make a post of HA dio vs xeno characters. Who is a good candidate for HA to fight?
