Four upgrade

[Whycantinamemyself]

in cary's latest stream(here) I asked what dimensional plane four is on, and he responded with four dimensional, stating that we(the viewers) couldn't comprehend it due to our 3d nature. i forgot, the part where they mention it, is when they are drawing trubbish.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Sounds like HDE but also sounds like a gag, plus i don't think "being beyond compreesion" warrants HDE anymore without more context.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Sounds like HDE but also sounds like a gag, plus i don't think "being beyond compreesion" warrants HDE anymore without more context.

yes, but he specifically said that "he's a four dimensional character", and that "he exists in four spatial dimensions"

 

[Thelastmlg]

Still needs to prove they are infinitly greater than 3D as far as i know.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

You are right about that, but i still think that being called a fourth dimensional being, stated to live in a four dimensional plane, and was stated to transcend the minds of the people in the third dimension, should warrant something. edit: just read the HDE page, and it says that it is applied if the character exists in and has a fourth dimension “or in layman terms, if they possess more than 3 dimensions”

 

[Psychomaster35]

Where is the timestamp?

And even if this were legit, he has yet to really show any 4D feats in the series (similar to him but on a 5D scale but you get the point), which isnt enough to prove Universal+ Four is legit. Furthermore, it was likely a joke since this is taken randomly out of context, similar to how another stream that got brought up had the creators claim that Four can control space-time, but he never actually does it in the series, so that might also be a joke.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Where is the timestamp?

And even if this were legit, he has yet to really show any 4D feats in the series (similar to him but on a 5D scale but you get the point), which isnt enough to prove Universal+ Four is legit. Furthermore, it was likely a joke since this is taken randomly out of context, similar to how another stream that got brought up had the creators claim that Four can control space-time, but he never actually does it in the series, so that might also be a joke.

Oof i was sleeping, four manipulating space time definitely makes sense, considering that he is seen performing all sorts of space time warping, moving black hole is an example, they also reality warp as well, so manipulating space time is Not that far fetched. Four dimensional may be a bit of a stretch, but his whole character is based around four, and we also accepted donuts resistance to pain manipulation from a statement as well. so i don’t see why this shouldn’t be as viable as that statement.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Oof i was sleeping, four manipulating space time definitely makes sense, considering that he is seen performing all sorts of space time warping, moving black hole is an example, they also reality warp as well, so manipulating space time is Not that far fetched. Four dimensional may be a bit of a stretch, but his whole character is based around four, and we also accepted donuts resistance to pain manipulation from a statement as well. so i don’t see why this shouldn’t be as viable as that statement.

See, the difference is that the pain resistance statement was done while Cary was watching a reaction during a part where he sees Cake feel pain, which is confirmed by him. Whereas any other statement during streams are taken merely as a joke because
1. This was never demonstrated in the series
2. Fans asked those questions, and take note that some of these fans are kids, so the creators may be joking just to entertain them
Also, whats your evidence that Four manipulates space-time from Black Hole? Nothing implies that Black Hole was triggering his ability while Four was shrinking him down, so Four would have no need to counter it.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Does black hole have to activate it? Because black holes naturally warp spacetime around them.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Black Hole is not a legit Black Hole since he violates things about one such as keeping the same mass upon him being shrunken down and how he can manipulate his pull. Plus, it was mentioned by him albeit he never actually uses it. So yes, he needs to activate it. Even then, as I said earlier, see above.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

No, he naturally warps spacetime. And another thing for control over space time, is that he somehow has “a bfb” edit: wait what? I though black hole naturally does his pully thing, seen when pen gets mutilated by it when hit with a fork by gelatin. And he has an accretion disk, which is always seen around him.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Where the **** did that headcanon of yours come from? Black Hole does not have a BFB, and that example is simply controlling his gravity field, not manipulating space.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

no i was talking about four,in ep 16, and im pretty sure that a black holes gravity, is why they manipulate and bend space time? I mean according to general relativity, things with a lot of mass curves space time, so if he passively has an accretion disk, then he passively has his gravity turned on. And since he has been stated to have the mass of 20 suns, that links the gravity and mass together.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

First we had 5D patrick star and now we have 4D to 5D Four

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

First we had 5D patrick star and now we have 4D to 5D Four

Lol

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Sorry, my most recent reply was kind of rushed, and had mistakes everywhere, i’ll be Coming with a more clear counter point in a bit.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

So, since we know that mass curves space time, and that black hole has a canon mass of 20 suns, then he passively warps space time with his mass , its probably something like PIS but for his effects on space-time. And evidence that black hole has his gravity on passively is the following:

• Kills pen with his gravitational field, this is most certainly passive because black hole is one the most active(or tries to be) death preventers on his team
• always seen with an accretion disk(especially during the first episode when he is being grabbed by four) which is a result of gases being pulled around a black holes gravitational field

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

so uhhh, bump?

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Bump

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Nevermind, didn’t read the abilities correctly