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Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

hold on, there’s still a lot to take care of before doing something like this. i’m in the middle of trying to piece together a Chaos Force page, and the Source of All upscales from the Chaos Force.

admittedly, I’ve been beginning to procrastinate but I thought I had more time.
 
Yo, thank you for attempting to do this, but if it was this easy, Archie would already be in tier 1 by now. Arguments are still trying to be formed.
 
So far, Archie beats Dragon Ball in AP. Thanks to the current standards, Archie Sonic and Dragon Ball(Heroes) are easily the strongest 2-A’s on the Wiki.
 
MikeBro25 said:
I think the Gods from Adventure Time is the 3rd Strongest 2-A and it’s great that Sonic is becoming more powerful then ever

Also is there a CRT of a Low 1-C upgrade for the Archie Sonic Verse cause if so the Staff can lock this thread
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There are definitely arguments for a Low 1-C upgrade.

The Precioustone's power supports the existence of extra-dimensional worlds.

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Then we have ascending to the Chaos Force. So before you actually reach the Chaos Force, you go through a few notable places that are essentially astral planes for the verse. They just add more context to just how ascendant the Chaos Force is overall.

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Here, all of the deceased members of the Brotherhood reside due to their inherent connection to the Chaos Force. They cannot be perceived by these lower planes as they are completely non-physical in nature.

These arguments could possibly be wrong, could also be right as well.
The higher planes are also considered as different realities.

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Mathias, an Echidna who also uses chaos energy views time's concept as "irrelevant". He can also sense a "disturbance" on his plane of existence.
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Again, these are just arguments you can make for a tier upgrade in the Archie Sonic verse. Please inform me on what I missed/wrong on.
 
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Er, pls edit that advertisement out with the chao. :)

As for Low 1-C, yeah, there is enough justification by the wiki's current standards for it, so you'll see it get passed in the next month or so.
 
Also this might be a derail, but can someone explain how Mammoth Mogul has Precognition, and on what level?
 
MikeBro25 said:
he also never implies this despite having all his memories of Worlds Collide.
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You also have to take in the fact he never implied accidentally rewriting his entire Multiverse, effectively collapsing it. The only information comes from Nicole, and she doesn't know everything.

MikeBro25 said:
Sonic directly acknowledges the Chaos Force as matching up with the current form of Chaos Energy
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When did this happen?
 
ElixirBlue said:
You also have to take in the fact he never implied accidentally rewriting his entire Multiverse, effectively collapsing it. The only information comes from Nicole, and she doesn't know everything.


When did this happen?
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Those are not my words, those are my friends words
 
Can you ask your friend where's his evidence where Post and Pre are stated to be exactly the same thing powerwise?
 
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There are 2 versions of Master Mogul.

The scan you have is Master Mogul 1st Tenure, when Mogul had the power of 11 Chaos Emeralds and the Triple Trouble only transformed from absorbing an energy attack by him (with the help of Power Rings).
 
Master Mogul 1st Tenure's power turned into the Master Emerald (a combination of 13 Chaos Emeralds). The Master Emerald is stated to have the power to collapse the infinite Multiverse, leaving only 1 reality, so the Super Forms from waaaayyyy back then are already baseline 2-A.

Super Sonic does not scale to Master Mogul 2nd Tenure or Titan Titans, who became one with the Chaos Force.
 
Idk. I don't know the low 1-C arguments and I'm waiting for Mav to start the low 1-C thread.
 
Anyway, I'm waiting for Mav's low 1-C for Archie's verse. I heard he is creating a compelling case.
 
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