Shigaraki Minor Revisions

[Abstractions]

He should, however, gain it from quite literally killing all of his fears while he was trapped in his own psyche.

If that's the case, then sure. But I believe Stain's page should further elaborate on how limited the Fear hax is.

I say this because it may inevitably cause confusion. There's also fact that we need to look at our standards regarding fear so intimidation alone doesn't classify as it.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

But, Shigaraki has been around for it when stain was doing the exact same speech, and shigaraki did not care. Its the 5th panel in the imgur in the OP.

That was Stain's base aura, not the full one that scared Endeavor. Even Deku and Iida could move when exposed to the Aura Shiggy resists in that panel.

 

[CyborgSakumo]

K, that's fair.I'll change it in the OP. Can you link me to the panel your referring to BTW.

 

[Therefir]

1. Resistance to Pain Manipulation with Rivet Stab should be okay.

2. Stain's basic intimidation aura can be resisted even by the students, so Shigaraki shouldn't get a resistance from this.

3. Rage Power is fine.

4. Multiple Personalities is okay for Shigaraki, but I see no reason to add this ability to Deku and All Might's profiles, as the previous OFA users are not actively trying to hijack their bodies like AFO is doing with Shigaraki (this in regards to what TheRustyOne was proposing).

5. Resistance to Mind Manipulation for not letting AFO take control of him should be good.

6. Shigaraki being a bit crazy doesn't make him resistant to Madness Manipulation.

7. They were not really interacting with souls in the OFA world, the vestiges are nothing more than that, vestiges, and the OFA world is inside Deku's mind as far as we know.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Deku should definitely have multiple personalities, the vestiges are their own people with separate memories and experience than him, and are fully capable of protecting his mind or controlling his body when he isn’t able to. That’s what they did when he got controlled by Shinso, it’s just All Might didn’t know the quirk had evolved and was completely wrong when he said the vestiges couldn’t interfere or influence Deku directly.

They are the exact same thing as AFO, just less connected to Deku since he isn’t fully in control of OFA yet and not actively trying to take over his body when they want to. Having multiple minds in one place, especially ones with separate experiences and wills (as shown with the First User having greater will and control in Izuku’s mind than Nana), is a near exact description of multiple personalities.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Deku should definitely have multiple personalities, the vestiges are their own people with separate memories and experience than him, and are fully capable of protecting his mind or controlling his body when he isn’t able to. That’s what they did when he got controlled by Shinso, it’s just All Might didn’t know the quirk had evolved and was completely wrong when he said the vestiges couldn’t interfere or influence Deku directly.

They are the exact same thing as AFO, just less connected to Deku since he isn’t fully in control of OFA yet and not actively trying to take over his body when they want to. Having multiple minds in one place, especially ones with separate experiences and wills (as shown with the First User having greater will and control in Izuku’s mind than Nana), is a near exact description of multiple personalities.

I agree with that

 

[Damage3245]

Have only read the AP thus far, but I don't agree with some of these:

-Resistance to Fear Manipulation and Limited Resistance to Paralysis Manipulation(Unaffected by Stain's fear manipulation Chapter 49, in the anime it's clearly shown)

I don't see any indication of him resisting fear or paralysis.

-Minor Rage Power and or Reactive Power Level (Got Faster, after being pushed to his limits Chapter 281 for reference)

This is just Shigaraki being pushed to his limits and using the last of his stamina. Not a reactive power or a power he unlocks with rage.

-Possible Resistance to Madness Manipulation(Has been noted many times to already be insane, and has shown that his mind is already fragmented)

Being insane does not mean resistance to madness....

-Multiple Personalities(Has AFO's spirit inside him who can help him better utilize quirks in times of extreme stress)

This is fine.

-Immense Pain Tolerance(If you've read this current arc and don't agree to this, I am very surprised)

This is fine.

-Possible resistance to Soul Manipulation(Was capable of fighting against OFA inside the OFA dimension)(This one is iffy I'll admit) This should be added to Deku/AM/AFO's profile as well.

Heavily disagree. No indication that these are souls at all.

 

[TheRustyOne]

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4. Multiple Personalities is okay for Shigaraki, but I see no reason to add this ability to Deku and All Might's profiles, as the previous OFA users are not actively trying to hijack their bodies like AFO is doing with Shigaraki (this in regards to what TheRustyOne was proposing).

Multiple Personalities doesn't require bodying hijacking. Just having multiple people in his head that can communicate with him is all that's needed. I guess maybe All Might wouldn't have it since the vestiges didn't really speak to him, he didn't even know they had any type of will.

But Izuku should also have Multiple Personalities. But I agree with Therefir with everything else.

 

[Arkenis]

Has anger manipulation been removed from the wiki or was it never a thing on here? I was reading the recent chapters and shigaraki can control or unleash his hatred or rage and erode the ofa world.

https://s6.mangabeast01.com/manga/Boku-No-Hero-Academia/0287-006.png

https://s6.mangabeast01.com/manga/Boku-No-Hero-Academia/0287-007.png

Also unless there's indication that one's will and soul are tied or linked in mha then yea it shouldn't be classified as anything until more is explained about it. I would say it's rather just a mental space for the ofa and afo considering how the Afo talks about this

https://s6.mangabeast01.com/manga/Boku-No-Hero-Academia/0287-003.png

https://s6.mangabeast01.com/manga/Boku-No-Hero-Academia/0287-004.png

https://s6.mangabeast01.com/manga/Boku-No-Hero-Academia/0287-005.png

 

[CyborgSakumo]

Ok, I removed the resistance to soul manipulation as I pretty much agree with people are saying about that, for the fear manipulation though I agree with the fact that specific scene shouldn't equate to resistance to fear manipulation, I'm also sort of on board with the madness manipulation issue.

However, the issue I'm having here is that in my hero academia world presence at least a strong enough presence has been shown to equate to fear manipulation. I think that's generally agreed upon.

And characters like AM have been in AFO's base presence which caused the class 1A members to have illusions of death, but AM was fine, so at the very least AM should have resistance to fear Manipulation do we agree on that.

 

[Therefir]

We kind of forgot to add this I think.

 

[Arkenis]

Can add it now.

 

[CyborgSakumo]

Ok, so no one ever responded to this question the reason I brought AM was as a supplement to a later point that the reason certain characters can resist fear manipulation is because of their immense presence/willpower. AM himself was compared to stain because of that immense willpower. If that is the case is the case then characters like AFO/Shigaraki should get resistance to fear manipulation due to their own immense willpower.

Also, side note I thought everyone agreed on Shigaraki getting immense pain tolerance /resistance to pain manipulation because of rivet stab and his feats this arc regarding pain