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Lucemon vs Lavos (Rematch)

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Oh, Cal... How naive of you to think that I was your ally in this...

This time, it's the other way around. Lavos' opponent is the one who got some nice new weapons to deal with him... Will this be a replay of the last battle where neither can put the other one down?

Or will someone actually emerge victorious here?

Same rules as the last thread.

This is TD Lavos vs Cyber Sleuth Lucemo. 2-A for both.

Lucemon Falldown Mode (EX Card 2)
Unkillable? You should have a talk with Zeed.

Time devourer at the end by dodgetoolabuse-d2y9ky9
"Already did. We're besties!"
 
Lucemon because he can negate Lavos' regen alongside countering most of his hax.

Lucemon can also bypass resistances, btw.
 
To point this out, I'm leaning more on Lucemon here. Dun dun duuuun.

Not only has he the power to erase Lavos from non-existence, now he can even keep negating his Mid-Godly Regenerationn as a whole. How long does it take, that I do not know, but it happens eventually, going from the last thread where Lucemon was said to also have the ability to exist across space and time in his arsenal.

Lavos voiding immunities is equal to Lucey's own ability of turning resistances to weaknesses so it's more of a cancel each other out kind of thing than a decisive factor. By the end of the day, Lucemon has all the tools he might need to put this on the bag eventually.

It might take effort, but I say he wins.

...Of course, I can't vote because OP. ovo'

Lavos: 1 (Loyal)

Lucemon: 1 (PaChi2)

Inconclusive: 0
 
So I still don't understand Lavos' Acausality. Mind giving me an abridged version?
 
Abridged: Has to be killed in the DBT and across all the Timelines/erased from them otherwise some alternate can always come back. Exists in non-existence and can also regenerate from nothing back to reality.

Here's how I see Lucey covering that: Lucey exists across space and time, he just kills it from all timelines and Lucey is no stranger to Non-Existence so he just erases them all eventually from the non-existence while preventing any of them from regenerating to his attacks mid-battle, since Mid-Godly regen negation is well within his paycheck.

Plus the boost for Lucey you mentioned in the previous thread...
 
Don't you just love it when threads talk about erasing non existence? Something that makes no sense for so many reason.
 
@Dragon As far as I know, the Mcguffin that was tailor made to Reality Warp it out of both Time and the DBT. Other than that, none.
 
They kinda used its own power (Frozen Flame) in conjunction with the Chrono Cross to kill it.
 
Okay then if Lucemon uses Purging Gale Storm then Lavos becomes resistant to that thing. Irrelevant here though. Lucy for Fate's reasoning as it's only a matter of time before Lucemon catches on and deals with the Lavos'. And if Lavos beats a Lucemon he'd be subject to karma.
 
You know who else will be subject to Karma when he sees this? ovo

Lavos: 1 (Loyal)

Lucemon: 2 (PaChi2, Dragonmasterxyz)

Inconclusive: 0
 
This also means that if Lucemon was present in Chrono Cross Lavos couldn't lose. PGS can be used to help allies...in a painful way.
 
Lavos: 1 (Loyal)

Lucemon: 3 (PaChi2, Dragonmasterxyz, MugenRyu)

Inconclusive: 0
 
Lucy can get passed the regen. Not the Acausality. There's more Lavos to be fighting that Lucemon, so that's who I'm going for. I'll...elaborate later.
 
Define Acausality.

Also, you're going for inconclusive like last time likely as Lucemon is the only one with new moves. Also, I'll trust Fate's judgement here considering he's the one who granted you power.
 
Also based on what I see from Fate, Lavos' Acausality does not fit our new rules for Acausality. As that sounds exactly like what Moon and Zeed do.
 
To quote what I was told.

"I'm not sure about that, mostly because what the "new" acausality was supposed to be is "completely transcend causality". But applied to everything. Like, cause=punch, but the effect "damage" doesn't apply."

Hence why Zeed nor Moon got it.
 
Also I think people forget Lucemon has his own high speed resurrection. Matter of fact Lavos actually helps Lucemon here. Each time Lucemon kills a Lavos, he gets more material to resurrect with.
 
Lucemon because his list of powers is just too long for Fate's reasons.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Also based on what I see from Fate, Lavos' Acausality does not fit our new rules for Acausality. As that sounds exactly like what Moon and Zeed do.
Click to expand...
Force me to prove Lavos' Acausality again, Dragon.

See what happens. ovo
 
I just wanna know. The abridged version did not help and Cal refused to answer my question from awhile ago.....
 
Your fault for adding it and not explaining it in detail on the file. :P

Also we do have to be careful as we did make new acausality rules overall. Hence why the likes of Moon and Zeed didn't get it. Although I'm going to make a thread about acausality anyway.
 
'k, now that I took proper medication...

Lavos: 2 (Loyal, The real cal howard)

Lucemon: 5 (PaChi2, Dragonmasterxyz, MugenRyu, Kaltias, Gargoyle One)

Inconclusive: 0
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
"I'm not sure about that, mostly because what the "new" acausality was supposed to be is "completely transcend causality". But applied to everything. Like, cause=punch, but the effect "damage" doesn't apply."
Click to expand...
Not to derail, but by this definition I see literally every single Acausal we have losing the ability. I don't think there are many (if any) characters out there who passively nope the normal flow of Cause and Effect of something directly applied to the "them" right in front of their enemies to the point where if someone tries to kill them, nothing ever happens because they nope all possible effects passively.
 
Hence why I will make an acausality thread. We have made it too complicated...
 
@Fate

I mean, Destiny has a guy specifically described as existing outside of standard causality.
 
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